Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Sahara Travel Forum

Sahara Travel Forum Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Desert Travels - Motorcycle Journeys in the Sahara and West Africa!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 4 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
Info- Cairo to Luxor via Oasis

Hi alls,
I am planning a motorcycle trip in Egypt, so I am looking for information on the Cairo-Bahariya-Farafra-Dakhala to Luxor road.
The question is about fuel station, I've read of no problem in the oasis, but are fuel station only in the oasis? If so, I'll need an extra tank ...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 4 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: London
Posts: 549
Hi - we did some of this road in 2007 - we did Siwa-Bahariya-Farafra-Dakhala-Luxor. From memory, the only fuel places are in the oases if that helps, although I don't know about Cairo-Bahariya. At least you aren't doing Siwa-Bahariya though - that's 600kms!
__________________
www.overlandcruiser.net
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 4 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
Thank you for reply. I travel with no support so I can't plan Siwa-Baharyya road. Fuel and load are a problem in that part of Egypt.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 4 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Sussex UK
Posts: 113
No problems with fuel (diesel, but would assume petrol ok too), in the oasis on the Cairo-Bahariya-Farafra-Dakhala route, but from what I recall (did it last Dec) nothing between the Oasis's.

Dont know about Dakla to Luxor, but I wouldnt count on there being any in between!!

When are you going? we will be that way again later this year.

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 5 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
Thanks for answer, so I can find fuel only in the oasis ...
and this won't a problema with extra tanks on my bike.
On 4th October I leave from Italy,
I ride cross the countries of former Yugoslavia toTurkey, then I ride down to the South: Syria and Jordan.
In Egypt I plan to arrive down to Abu Simbel and come back home from the same countries.

Fabrizio
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10 Aug 2009
Contributing Vendor
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Budapest, Hungary
Posts: 292
Last time I passed that road in the spring, the dilapidated gas station near the cafeteria at the halfway point (around km 180) on the Cairo - Bahariya stretch was being renovated, it appeared that it will open for business again. Anyone having passed more recently can confirm this ?
__________________
Happy Travels, András
http://www.fjexpeditions.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrasz View Post
Last time I passed that road in the spring, the dilapidated gas station near the cafeteria at the halfway point (around km 180) on the Cairo - Bahariya stretch was being renovated, it appeared that it will open for business again. Anyone having passed more recently can confirm this ?

This would be a good news.

thanks for info.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
I just had a mail from a person from Bahariya and he confirmed that:

" There is a fuel station on the road from Cairo to Bahariya after 185 kilometres from Cairo close to the Rest house".

I suppose it's the same you mentioned, so it means that meanwhile it's opened.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12 Aug 2009
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Aus. Qld. Mackay
Posts: 384
Roads

Does anybody know what the Roads are like on this route ?
Thanks
Paul
__________________
....rather Die Living.....than Live Dying !
www.globetrekkers.net.au
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 13 Aug 2009
Contributing Vendor
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Budapest, Hungary
Posts: 292
Good quality tarmac all the way (except for the odd 2-3 km stretch where roadworks/resurfacing is being done, which is perpetual at some point given the more than 1000 km overall distance).
__________________
Happy Travels, András
http://www.fjexpeditions.com
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 14 Aug 2009
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Aus. Qld. Mackay
Posts: 384
Recommended Route

Would you recomend this route from Cairo-Luxor over the others, We are headed to Cape Town and I was wondering which route would be best, from the tourist point of view.
__________________
....rather Die Living.....than Live Dying !
www.globetrekkers.net.au
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 14 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
On the road from Cairo to Luxor, along th Nile, you must travel in police convoy. And I don't think it's a good tourist experience. A friend of mine who was there last year said that these convoys seem like "the most crazy race of the world".
Along the Golf of Suez, convoy from Hurghada to Luxor.
Then you can't avoid convoy from Luxor down to Aswan and Abu Simbel.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: On the road again
Posts: 260
No more convoys

Hi All,

I have heard from several sources that convoys are no longer required in most of Egypt, specifically Hurghada-Luxor and Luxor-Aswan. Nothing definite, so I am prepared for any corrections.

I imagine Aswan-Abu Simbal remains a convoy, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was still insisted upon on the Nile route, due to lots of civilisation, and the general feeling that this passes through the grass roots (route) areas of fundamentalism. Note that I am not suggesting that this is actually the case, just that the authorities have always been more careful (paranoid?) here.

Through the Oasis loop ( or taking the fast desert road to Asyut ) they are quite likely to tag along while you pass through town, but leave you at the exit. This has been the case for us recently.

As for the choices of
1) Oasis Loop
2) Asyut desert road
3) Nile route
4) Hurghada route

it will come down to personal choice. I would definitely rule out (3) as the pace will be vvv slow, the hassle greater, and the Nile and civilisation is significantly better in Sudan. Route (4) is fast and simple, gets nice coastline (diving, snorkling, windsurfing etc) although Hurghada is pretty unpleasant in my opinion. We spend a lot of time around the Oasis loop, off the beaten track, and love it. However most overlanders pop off the road into the white desert and otherwise stay on this very long diversion. If you go this way then you should try and make the most of it if you have time. I am not certain of the Asyut to Luxor road, but the Asyut desert road is now dual carriage way all the way, fast and simple ( I think ), this would be another option that doesn't get mentioned often.

Enough for now
__________________
JT

Last edited by jamieT; 15 Aug 2009 at 00:37. Reason: root/route
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 15 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: italy
Posts: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieT View Post
Hi All,

I have heard from several sources that convoys are no longer required in most of Egypt, specifically Hurghada-Luxor and Luxor-Aswan. Nothing definite, so I am prepared for any corrections.

I imagine Aswan-Abu Simbal remains a convoy ...
Thanks a lot for sharing these info.

Does anyone have other recent info about convoys?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 15 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Alexandria Egypt
Posts: 369
Oases route from Cairo to Luxor

hi
so its 360 km from Cairo to Bahariya ,the half way gas station some times work ,some times not ,
what you do get extra Jerry can with you if your tank cant do 360 km ,the road condition is good ,one way road .don't do it at night ,and in the last 90 km some sand on the road
Bahariya -Farafra ,its almost 200 km ,you can do it on one tank easy ,and you may try to camp in the white desert (40 km before Farafra ) and you will see signs ,turn left if you are heading to farafra ,you there is easy dirt road you can do few km inside with any bike and loaded,one of the most highlights on the road ,
from Farafra to Dakhla its 300 km ,55 km before you reach Dakhla there is gas station on the lest (in a place called Gharb mawhoob )
i advice you to stay in the Bedouin village hotel ,they have a place to pitch your camp ,or cheap rooms or nice rooms with shower and WC ,mention to them you know Omar Mansour from ALexandria and enjoy the Bedouin live music at night
from Dakhla to KHarga ,almost 200 kilo ,
and from Kharga to Luxor ,is like 300 km cant remember exactly
but that is the best route to make Cairo to Luxor and no convoy at all in it
hope i give some useful info
right now i,m in south Africa heading to Egypt ,my life dream trip
cheers
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Luxor to Cairo and back on hired bikes benleeke Route Planning 0 26 Dec 2007 20:17
Dakhla - Luxor for Karim ursula Sahara Travel Forum 2 26 Jul 2004 19:32
One day in Siwa Oasis torc Sahara Travel Forum 4 7 Mar 2004 11:31
Oasis in Sochi usl Bike Friendly, Northern Asia 0 10 Sep 2002 17:34
From Borno (NE Nigeria) to the Kawar Oasis Gerhardmk Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 0 9 Jun 2001 17:48

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:49.