Originally Posted by george t
hi everyone.. I am trying to organise a short trip from Cairo to Bahariya to Siwa and back and would like to ask for your help.
Trip to take place possibly in late october, november (2012) time.
From what I have read the road from Cairo to Bahariya (360km) is all tarmac for a while now..
not sure for the piste from Bahariya to Siwa is it all sand, just a track, graded, paved??
My plan is to go on three bikes and a local 4x4 (not a Land rover / land cruiser more likely those locally build KIA or similar) that will carry our gear and petrol / water.
The 4x4 driver is a local egyptian from Cairo without local knowledge of the desert. The three rides are Brits visiting.
in terms of guide for the piste from Bahariya to Siwa. Do we have to have one ?
Can we take the guide in our car? or does he need to be on his own vehicle.. (hence cost more)
I assume one can ride Bahariya to Siwa on a day..?
And total time 4 days. ie. Cairo - Bahariay - Siwa and back .. is that reasonable for our small group..
all response and views welcome.. thank you.. also if any one has photos of the desert piste to Siwa from Bahariya there will be most welcome..
from Cairo to Bahariya its all asphalt road with only one gas station and most of time have no petrol ,so you need to have enough
from there you need to make a military permit and then you have to make it from Bahariya to Siwa in one day as you are not allowed to camp
its 420 kilo meter the first 50 km from Bahariya is old Asphalt but easy to blow up up to 100 km
after that it will be a mix of bad corrugation pot holes and some sand patches
for about 120 km then a news good asphalt road all the way to Siwa
of course no service at all and hardly to find a car passing
there is 6 check , military points they check your permit and they call the last point to them you reached here and then call the next one so they will wait for you
its for your own safety so if you don't show off they know you are between point c and point d for example
i recommend that you take a local guide from Bahariya as my only concern if some one need to be moved fast to a hospital or some thing like that
if you ride off road there is always a chance you drop your bike and then you may need to go to hospital
the so its always better to have a local guide
price can be from 800 le and up
and ride safe always
what kind of bikes you will use