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Question Egypt - new airfield from WWII

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I found an old airfield from WWII in the Western Desert. It is built the same way as "8 Bells" in the south of Gilf Kebir. with a lot of Shell jerrycans.

The name is either 0 HILL oder C HILL or Q HILL or ......

Does anybody know more about this landing ground?

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a view is on my page on Flickr

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Brilliant

hello Ursula
congratulations for the new find !
I honestly think you are a daring desert explorer,
will contact Tarek soon but im curious about the western borders will be important to know:
Any encounters or spotting smugglers or illegal migrations?
Best regards from Egypt
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smugglers in the western desert

hi Mahmoud

nice to hear from you!
So you did not know this airport too? there were no car tracks at all - untill we came

Yes, we had one of these encounters...
at the east end of Wadi Assib we met 2 "libyans" hidden in the small barchanes and Tarek was speeding off like in a rallye...

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maybe hunters

no I did not know about it, you know 8b is quite famous and I guess the new one was not known despite all the efforts to trace back this area history
Also for the Libyans, one possibility that this is the season for falconry, birds of Europe they escape the cold weather and immigrate to Africa around September, they are hunted by poor Bedouins then sold to rich Bedouins to play with! The hunters area used to be in the great sand sea close to clayton camp , maybe they are on the hunt for birds ! or that’s what I hope
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Hello Ursula,

Well done! On my 1943 US Army Map Service Libyan Desert sheet there are two airfields marked, Cleft-Hill and Garth-Hill, your find must be one of the two. Send me an email, from the position I will be able to tell which one.

From your photos I see that the Tourist Police have excelled themselves...

Edit: No need to email, have found it on Google Earth, stands out quite clearly if you know where to look
It is indeed Garth-Hill aerodrome, one of the many emergency landing grounds on the air route leading to Kufra (8 Bells was one of them). Seems to be quite a bit off the regular route to the Gilf...
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Talking Garth Hill

thanks - in the meantime I found it on the 1942 US Army Map too but no infos in the net at all.


yes, Tourist Police was really very exceptionnel this time
have you seen the accident and their machine guns?
just what one is looking for in the desert...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7266438...in/photostream
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Out of curiosity, how much time was wasted getting their car upright... ?

Regarding Garth Hill landing ground, I would be surprised if this name and the fact that the residence of Hubert Penderel (RAF officer, travel companion of Almasy and Bagnold) was in Garth, Pontardawe, Wales was pure coincidence...
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wasted time....

no problem - our crew was very experienced!

- we lost much more time waiting for the officer and the Tourist Police Escort in
Bahariya and Dakhla,

- for a spare part for TP car no1 with new drivers/mecanos to
bring it to us into the Great Sandsea!

- and waiting for car no2 after the accident, car no1 was driven back to Bahariya

on the 6th day we arrived finally in the north of Gilf Kebir...

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Thumbs up Garth Hill Western Desert Egypt

hi
in April I made another picture of the name of this landing ground
in the Western Desert

it is clearly readable " G HILL "


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