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Popping in to Cambodia - questions!

Hi all,

I'm here in Bangkok on my Vespa PX200, and was thinking of heading over to Cambodia tomorrow, via the Poipet crossing, to see Angkor Wat. I've been up and down the boards here to get some answers to my questions, but there's nothing definitive there. So here goes:

-I'm a Canadian citizen, here with a 30-day visa-on-arrival issued at the airport. Will I be able to get a new Visa on Arrival upon my return to Thailand a few days later, at the Aranyaprathet/Poipet crossing? I read somewhere that they only really issue the VOA's at international airports.

-I have a carnet and 100% perfect paperwork for the bike, although my bike entered Thailand not with the carnet, but rather just this temporary import permit they gave me. Will the Thai customs have to re-issue this temporary import permit upon my return? And if so, how long a process am I looking at here?

-How's the road from Poipet to Siem Reap nowadays? Others on the HUBB said it was terrible, but that was years ago.
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Hi all,

I'm here in Bangkok on my Vespa PX200, and was thinking of heading over to Cambodia tomorrow, via the Poipet crossing, to see Angkor Wat. I've been up and down the boards here to get some answers to my questions, but there's nothing definitive there. So here goes:

-I'm a Canadian citizen, here with a 30-day visa-on-arrival issued at the airport. Will I be able to get a new Visa on Arrival upon my return to Thailand a few days later, at the Aranyaprathet/Poipet crossing? I read somewhere that they only really issue the VOA's at international airports.

-I have a carnet and 100% perfect paperwork for the bike, although my bike entered Thailand not with the carnet, but rather just this temporary import permit they gave me. Will the Thai customs have to re-issue this temporary import permit upon my return? And if so, how long a process am I looking at here?

-How's the road from Poipet to Siem Reap nowadays? Others on the HUBB said it was terrible, but that was years ago.
Can't answer the paperwork questions, but the new highway is open:

Guide to Siem Reap - Bangkok to Siemreap by crossing Poipet Border

"...The new road from Poi Pet to Siem Reap has been finished in May 03, 2009. Totally the journey from Bangkok to Siem Reap will take very less times and cost as well. Tourists can be travelling with confident and options for choosing either the time to departure from Bangkok or Siem Reap by crossing poi pet with new high-way road. Depending on how you travel on the Thai side, an independent journey should take from between 6 to 9 hours door to door..."
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...hope this helps

hi there...understand that you met Simon the other day riding out of Bangkok!?
OK - so...for what I have gathered.

if you do not have a visa for your re-entry into Thailand (ie a pre-applied for with stamp already in passport) and you are going to get a VOA on the border which I understand is fine to do at all of the major border crossing between Thailand and Cambodia.

however..you will only get 15 days given to you for your bike. this will be once again on the 'white paper'. but they will probably 'look' at your carnet and copy all the info down from it.

so be aware....you will probably get a 30 days visa no probs...but your bike at a land border will only get 15.

I understand that this is only applicable for the VOA. if I am wrong someone please correct me ASAP! 'cos I will need to know as we are leaving for Cambodia in the next couple of days and have a visa already for our return where we are assuming that the bikes will be allowed in for as long as our visa is stamped for ie 60 days.

more than likely see you on the road....
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however..you will only get 15 days given to you for your bike. this will be once again on the 'white paper'. but they will probably 'look' at your carnet and copy all the info down from it.

so be aware....you will probably get a 30 days visa no probs...but your bike at a land border will only get 15.
Lisa the VOA is only 15 days and the white paper for the bike 30 days not the other way round we have done the border crossing between Thailand and Malaysia and Laos few times and this has all ways been the case when entering Thailand.

For us coming back to Thailand was easier than the first time as they had our details from last time so they just had to print off the white paper again.

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Hi came across the Poipet/Siem Reap road 2 days ago, no problems. The road is like new, hardly a bump anywhere. The only problem was with the touts at the border, just ignore them and continue onto Thai Immigration. Paperwork was done quickly on both sides and I was away in 2 hours.(most of the time was spent in the Thai immigration queue)The Cambodian visa was $20 +100 Baht or 800 Baht, issued in 10 minutes.Carnet on Cambodian side took 2 minutes!. The Temporary Import Permit should take very little time unless you come back through one of the minor crossings.
I'm staying at the Tan Kang Angkor Villa, sounds grander than it is, stop by for a chat and a .
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Hello Lisa,
We used only the carnet during our roundtrip Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and back to Thailand.
We know about the white temp importpapers because we used them 2 years ago.
Now on the border Malaysia/Thailand and Laos/Thailand I asked but did not get. Carnet was sufficient.
Now we are in Chiang Mai and fly the bike to Kathmandu. First the customs here wanted the white paper, but after they collected some info it became clear.
Customs changed their policy to serve tourists. Carnet is sufficient unlike 2 years ago.
Thailand did not subscribe to the carnetrules but SE Asia did and Thailand is part of SE Asia so a way was found to chance policy without loosing face.
When you do want to stay longer than 15 days in Thailand after returning from Cambodia or Lao you have to go to the embassy in Phom Penh, Savannakhet or Vientiane. You get 60 days for free.
In Cambodia are all the main roads in good condition.I think we did them all.In Lao same until Vientiane.
Insurance in Cambodia : Caminco Insurance. 35 us for 6 mnths ( min) for our 1150 GSA
Can get it in Siem Reap
Have a safe trip
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Thanks everybody for the advice. Leaving Thailand took about an hour; getting in to Cambodia took one more. I was stuck behind a busload of Australians, which may explain why my Cambodian border experience was a little less brisk than what others have said.

But good grief -- the guy stamping the carnets couldn't have been nicer. He was just hanging out at a desk outside, and the carnet process took about... 30? Maybe 45 seconds? That was pleasant.

@John -- not sure if you're still in town but I'm headed back very very early in the morning, so no tonight!

SJ
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..thanks

thanks for bringing me up to date....strange about the carnet though cos when we arrived at the BKK airport from Nepal in Nov 2010, the customs guys wouldnt take the carnet and instead filled out the 'white paper'!?
hope we wont have any problems when leaving.....

sounds like Cambodia will be a lot more straight forward :-)
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