Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Route Planning
Route Planning Where to go, when, what are the interesting places to see
Photo by George Guille, It's going to be a long 300km... Bolivian Amazon

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by George Guille
It's going to be a long 300km...
Bolivian Amazon



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 6 Aug 2008
colebatch's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London / Moscow
Posts: 1,913
Here's a challenge for you

Well I think when it comes to where mainland Europe starts and ends on its Eastern side, you cant go past the russians. Afer all, the Europe Asia border in the Urals is on Russian soil, so their take on it is therefore definitive.

The watershed of the urals runs roughly north - south for most of its length, but turns notably to the east up in the far North. The coal mining / gulag city of Vorkuta (up in the deep North) at 64 degrees East is well to East of Ekaterinburg and Chelyabinsk (both around 60-61 degrees East).

And Vorkuta is in European Russia. I have no doubt there are villages further East once you get to Vorkuta. Anyone wanting to go as far east in Europe as possible will have to head up to Vorkuta (no cheating on the train) and then take what ever mud trails to whatever more easterly villages you can.

Someone with nothing else to do this summer should head off now, and check it out!

But take a mud bike

** Note the part of Kazakhstan that is within Europe is the part to the north and west of the Ural river ... The city of Uralsk lies on that Europe / Asia border, and is only 51 degrees East

By means of illustration: http://www.thingsforlearning.com/pro.../7925-4504.jpg

It looks like the most Easterly point in mainland Europe is about 66 degrees East.

Last edited by colebatch; 6 Aug 2008 at 16:22.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 28 Aug 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Salisbury, UK
Posts: 119
If you're going to the four corners you really ought to go to the middle as well!
The official centre of Europe, as defined by the French National Geograpic Institute, is 25km north of Vilnius (Lithuania) on the road to Utena.
There is a small centre there where you can buy postcards etc. and get an official Centre of Europe stamp in your diary. How can you resist?!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 28 Aug 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 703
Has to be in Turkey,
Istanbul,
The middle of the bridge called Bogazici. or Bospur Bridge.

Image:Most Bosfor Istambuł RB1.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While your there can I suggest you take the ferry from Istanbul down the Bosporus Strait to almost the Black sea.

Istanbul: City tours by ferry - Telegraph

If you've only a couple of days to spend on the water in Istanbul, then the excursion up the Bosporus or a trip to the Princes' Islands are the two essential boat-journeys to take. For me the Straits of Bospurus was the best. This offers the unforgettable experience of zig-zagging between two continents to view the city's waterfront suburbs and settlements. Istanbul life is relaxing on the boats.
The mighty Bosporus strait runs 32km between the Sea of Marmara and the Black Sea, separating the European and Asian shores of Istanbul. It's steeped in myth and legend.

Fantastic fish lunch at the last stop.

Great day out.

Graham
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 28 Aug 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: France
Posts: 312
Defining the limits of something that doesn t exist is impossible...

You defined Ireliand as the westernmost point...but in June Irish clearly expressed their doubt about their european identity...people living in Iceland are vikings like in Scandinavia, shouldnt it make of Iceland a part of Europe..what about the european islands all over the world in the pacific ocean or the caraibs...

If you define Europe as a continental entity, then once again why do you define Ireland, an island, as the westernmost point of Europe?

Russia extends to the north pole, russians have been involved in european history for thousands of years, should it be regarded as european...

Defining Europe is just impossible, because there are so many interpretations of it.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 29 Aug 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 703
Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 30 Aug 2008
colebatch's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London / Moscow
Posts: 1,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by uk_vette View Post
Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
Isnt that a bit like saying the most northerly point of Europe is Stockholm, cause anywhere north of there is sh1t hole?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 31 Aug 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warrington UK
Posts: 703
Quote:
Originally Posted by colebatch View Post
Isnt that a bit like saying the most northerly point of Europe is Stockholm, cause anywhere north of there is sh1t hole?
.
.
Depends on how much crap you want to take, as regards a sh1t hole of a place.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 1 Sep 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cyprus
Posts: 37
Smile No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by uk_vette View Post
Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
Well, Istanbul (as well as Stockholm - good one colebatch) may be 'good' but they are not 'The positions'. In my opinion it's a compromise, just like 'I'll take my riding gear, hop on a plane and do to the North Cap :-)

No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 18 Sep 2008
GVARaDerAKIS's Avatar
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Greece
Posts: 3
Southern Point

Sorry my friend but the southern point in europe IS the island GAVDOS.
I am from Crete - greece, and i know better the place!!!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 18 Sep 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 198
Hi,

Having been to Tarifa a few times, windsurfing, I was quite happy it was the most Southern "Mainland" European point...

Until, I lines it up on my map and went right. I reckon Turkey, may hold the most Southern point, have a look at this somewhere round Cabala.


Looks like I need to be off again!

Dan
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 19 Sep 2008
colebatch's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London / Moscow
Posts: 1,913
That part of Turkey is not Europe ... European Turkey stops at the Dardanelles / Bosphorus ... the European part is the 3% of Turkey west of Istanbul.

The rest of Turkey, the other 97%, is Asia.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 20 Sep 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by colebatch View Post
That part of Turkey is not Europe ... European Turkey stops at the Dardanelles / Bosphorus ... the European part is the 3% of Turkey west of Istanbul.

The rest of Turkey, the other 97%, is Asia.
Oh, did not realise that at least I can still say I have been to the Southern most point!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 3 Oct 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: GREESE
Posts: 1
The most southern part of continental Europe they is the cape tainaro in Peloponnisos in Greese There at the Greek mythology they was the entry in the under world
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:29.