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i'm planing a trip to Russia - mongolia, needs of info.

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I'm planing a trip with a honda dominator 650-93 with 30k miles , through Russia until mongolia. Any info about bording crossing with motorbike, visa, tips etc, is wellcome.
Does anyone know how much roughfully is butget per day in russia?

What is the best moment-season to do the trip?

Does someone kown how to extend the visa (turist visa) for russia more than a month, as I intend to stay longuer?

Thanks for reading.

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Hi Alcasi: I live in Mongolia, so if you will be riding to Mongolia also, let me know if you have any questions about Mongolia.

The best time to come across Siberia and into Mongolia is June-September. Other months are too cold.

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Hi Alcasi: I live in Mongolia, so if you will be riding to Mongolia also, let me know if you have any questions about Mongolia.

The best time to come across Siberia and into Mongolia is June-September. Other months are too cold.

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Thanks for your reply. Is there any problem to cross the border russia-mongolia with motorbike? which is the best crossing border between russia-mongolia?
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I don't believe there is a way to extend a Russian tourist visa beyond one month. To stay longer, you would need to get a business visa, which can be done without the need to actually be in Russia on business - in other words, a tourist can get a business visa legally and without undue difficulty. They're valid for anwhere from 3 to 12 months, and can be single, double, or multiple entry.

There's a lot of info available on-line through various visa agencies which assist in getting a Russian visa. Try a search for "Russian visa" and you'll turn up dozens of such agencies.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

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Hi Scott
Thanks for your reply. Is there any problem to cross the border russia-mongolia with motorbike? which is the best crossing border between russia-mongolia?
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No problem crossing into Mongolia with a motorbike. No requirement for a carnet or any other special document. There are three Russia/Mongolia border crossing open to foreigners. One is in the far northwest, one is in the northeast of Mongolia, and the last is on the main road from Ulan Ude to Ulaanbaatar, directly north of Ulaanbaatar about 370 km.

That one, on the main road, is the best and easiest. The road is quite good and the border officers are used to seeing foreigners. It is about 5 hours from the border to Ulaanbaatar.

The other two can be used but you will have to travel many days off road.

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Hi Scott and Mike.

I am also planning to cross into Mongolia from Russia in August 2005. Based on some research I have done, I believe there is a border crossing at Hanh/Mondy near Hovsgol Nuur. Have you heard of this ?
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Hi guys

Just i 'd like to thank you for your infos.

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Hi Scott and Mike.

I am also planning to cross into Mongolia from Russia in August 2005. Based on some research I have done, I believe there is a border crossing at Hanh/Mondy near Hovsgol Nuur. Have you heard of this ?
Hi Adrian: There is a border crossing at the north end of Huvsgul Lake, but it is generally open only to Russians and Mongolians. I have known some other foreigners who have made it through there, but only by arranging permission in advance with both the Mongolian and Russian Foreign Ministries. It's not easy and can be very expensive. It's usually done only by large group tours or scientific expeditions.

Let me know if you need any more info about overland in Mongolia.

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A mate just sent me this page which you may find useful:
<http://dreamers1.com/russia/Practicalities/Russia_Mongolia_Practicalities.htm>http://dreamers1.com/russia/Practica...ticalities.htm

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hello
i put some practical info on my website, i was in central asia russia mongolia iran pakistan in 2002, it may have changed a bit though :

http://vincent.danna.free.fr/infos/index.html

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Hello,

I'll be in Mongolia next August for 4 weeks coming overland through Russia.
I'd like to visit the Gurvan Saykhan reserve near Dalanzadgad.
Could someone tell me how much water I need to carry on the bike during this season,
or, let's say for example, is there water between Mandalgov and Dalanzadgad ?
or : is it a bad idea to visit this area in summertime ?
thanks in adance for any tip(s) on the matter.
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I'll be in Mongolia next August for 4 weeks coming overland through Russia.
I'd like to visit the Gurvan Saykhan reserve near Dalanzadgad.
Could someone tell me how much water I need to carry on the bike during this season,
or, let's say for example, is there water between Mandalgov and Dalanzadgad ?
Corentin
Hi Corentin: You should always carry a few liters with you in case your bike breaks and you are stranded, but there is water available from wells fairly frequently in the Gobi. Dalanzagad to Mandalgobi is less than a day's ride, so unless your bike dies you won't need to find extra water between those two towns.

If you go off the main tracks, you should consider taking more water, since a breakdown in the more remote areas could mean days before someone finds you. But on the main tracks between towns there are at least 4 or 5 vehicles per day, so you would only have to wait a few hours before someone found you.

Are you coming this August, or August 2006? I live in Ulaanbaatar and I can give you some GPS points for the Gurvan Saykhan reserve and other Gobi sites if you want them.

Let me know if you need any more info on riding in Mongolia. You can email me directly so we don't hijack Alcasi's thread anymore. My email is: weinholds at state.gov

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I drowe from Finland to Vladivostok and back last summer.

To make trip takes 54 days and 2000 Euros.

I dont cook anything during trip and i slept "at wood" about 10 nights and rest in hotel.

Pekka

>Does anyone know how much roughfully is >butget per day in russia?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR><font face="" size="2">Originally posted by alcasi:

Hi Scott
Thanks for your reply. Is there any problem to cross the border russia-mongolia with motorbike? which is the best crossing border between russia-mongolia?
Regards


No problem crossing into Mongolia with a motorbike. No requirement for a carnet or any other special document. There are three Russia/Mongolia border crossing open to foreigners. One is in the far northwest, one is in the northeast of Mongolia, and the last is on the main road from Ulan Ude to Ulaanbaatar, directly north of Ulaanbaatar about 370 km.

That one, on the main road, is the best and easiest. The road is quite good and the border officers are used to seeing foreigners. It is about 5 hours from the border to Ulaanbaatar.

The other two can be used but you will have to travel many days off road.

-Scott
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Dear Scott,

I am Taiwanese and live in Taiwan.

My wife and I are planing a trip from Vladivostok (Russia) throuth Siberian to Germany in year 2006 or 2007.

I plan ship my own BMW F650 GS DK to Vladivostok. of course I would like to visit Mongolia and you in ULAANBAATAR if you welcome us.

But Do I need to apply any documents for my BMW to Russia and Mongolia ?

Could you give me suggestions the routes to your country from Russia?

I do not have experience ship my bike out of my country, I need international bike friends help me and share your experience.

Thanks

Is there any Fuel/Gas stations problem ? Do I need to carry extra gas ?

Is there easy to find hotels to stay?




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Dear Scott,

I am Taiwanese and live in Taiwan.

My wife and I are planing a trip from Vladivostok (Russia) throuth Siberian to Germany in year 2006 or 2007.
Hi LKK.

I have not ridden in Russia, but you do not need a carnet for Russia or Mongolia. For lots of good information on practical issues of riding in Russia and Mongolia, see Geoff's post in this forum. His website has a lot of good stuff on the basic details.

You should not have to carry extra gas, but make sure to fill up whenever you are leaving a town. Hotels are pretty easy to find in large Mongolian cities, but hard to find in the countryside. If you come in the summer Mongolia has a lot of ger camps where you can stay in a yurt. I don't know about hotels in Russia.

To get to Mongolia from Russia is easy. Just ride to Ulan Ude, and then take the road south to the Mongolian border. The road is good (paved) all the way to Ulaanbaatar from the Russian border.

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