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Help - Carnet in Russia. True or False?
Hi folks,

I'm getting some seriously confusing messages about carnets in Russia.

A hubb search made me think I didn't need one, but got this email from my shipping guy today.

"The advice we are receiving from the customs agent in Russia is that an ATA carnet should be used for taking the motor bikes and personal effects into Russia…….is this contrary to what you understand?"

Has anyone travelled in Russia with a carnet? Has anyone travelled in Russia without a carnet? Do you need a deposit? Have the rules changed? Help!

Thanks!
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I'm on my way there in June and have been told repeatedly that a carnet is not required, BUT I've only asked about EU registered vehicles.

check out www.waytorussia.net which has a specific Transportation section on taking vehicles into Russia. It mentions that the vehicles are "stamped" into your passport when you arrive and "stamped" out again on departure. Plus renewing every month at a customs office. Not sure what happens if the vehicle does nt leave, I suppose you get touched for some import duties.
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You don't need a carnet for russia. I was there last summer.
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yes, but your european, the person asking the question isn't!! speak with the authority that issues the carnet, they should have the definitive answer. you could also speak to russian customs or the consulate and try to get written confirmation (good luck on that one!!)

certainly europeans don't need one, but then I need a carnet for Australia and New Zealand!!

My suspicion is you will need one, but that is just a guess.
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http://dreamers1.com/russia/Practica...ies.htm#Carnet
Is a link to the Kingsmills website (Australians) who did the same trip in 2005 - so the info is not too old. Definitely says NO CARNET.
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ATA carnets.
I'm making a bit of progress but I'm still a bit confused.

There seem to be two separate carnet systems.

1. Carnet de passage - this is for your vehicle, administered by you local automobile association.

2. ATA carnet for things which are NOT motor vehicles. e.g. Tent, sleeping bag etc. - This is administered by a trade organisation, for example in NZ its the chamber of commerce. Costs about $400 per carnet + 100% of value bond.

What I'm getting from my customs guy is an ATA carnet request, eg for tents and sleeping bags. I'm NOT going to bring any expensive electronic gear with me, because this is exactly the situation I wanted to avoid. The most expensive item on my list of equipment (apart from the bikes) is a US$300 pair of motorbike boots.

It also seems like a lot of work. Every item needs to be photographed and described in detail.

The catch is they want it in Russian, so it's going to cost another heap of money to get it translated by a recognised translator.

Has anyone heard of this before? Has anyone had experience with ATA carnets, in Russia or anywhere else?

I'm looking forward to your comments.

I'll keep you posted too.

Cheers.
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