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16 yr old Brit with a provisional 50cc licence

Hi Everyone,

sorry if this is the wrong place to post such a question but any advices would be appreciated.

A mate's son turns 16 in March and is looking for a 50cc Dual Purpose bike. He'd like to ride over in Norway. He loved the place last year as a pillion and is looking to ride his 50 over there for a holiday.

So does anyone know if it's legal for a 16 yr old Brit to ride on L plates in Norway or, would he need to pass his test on the 50?

I know anyone with common sense would suggests that he waits until he's 17 and gets a bigger bike but the lads so keen it would be a shame to make him wait that long.

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l plates

far as i know you can't ride anywhere but here (uk) on a uk provisional licence.
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Hi Reggie, full licence required outside of the UK. Not really worth doing a moped test, but nothing to stop him taking a test.
Stage 1, do the CBT.
Stage 2, Pass the theory test.
Stage 3, improve your chances with further training.
Stage 4, pass the practical test.
Stage 5, apologise to instructor and examiner for being stuck at 30mph and boring us to death.

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50cc??

Get the test and a honda c50 (manual version).

slow, but reliable. (will enlarge to 88cc without external mods....)
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Get the test and a honda c50 (manual version).

slow, but reliable. (will enlarge to 88cc without external mods....)
I hope you are not talking about giving the piston a dressing? In my youth we managed to turn little Puch and KTM 'Mofa' into seriously leathal 50 to 60 mph death traps....

Not to be recommended, but ahhh, the good old days...

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c50

am totally serious!

I race a hondaha, yammy rd80lc based chassis with a monkeybike 50cc engine (same as old c50 really), running an 88cc big bore kit, underseat exhaust, big carb, takegawa head. approx 9bhp at the rear wheel at 11,000 rpm. easily enough for 70mph on the correct gearing. 26mm carb going on it shortly....
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Moped licence explained.

A 16 year old can legally ride a moped in the UK. A moped by LAW is up to 50cc and designed to do 30mph.
If it's bigger or faster the rider must 17 years old or more. A 16 year old will be riding WITHOUT a valid licence or (more importantly) no insurance!
Not worth the risk IMHO

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Reggie

It might be worth checking out if he can rent a moped out there...some of the tourist destinations must have moped rental shops...he won't be able to go too far on a moped mind you, well not without seriously slowing everyone down...!
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Hi Chaps,

thanks for your replies.

Wobbly, are you sure you can pass a full licence on a 50cc, manual gearbox motorcycle? If so that would save him time and effort in the future!

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Hi Reggie, the answer I'm sorry to say is no. There are currently 4 tests available for powered two wheelers ( ptw's )

1. Moped test, 16years or older. pass and you can ride a moped without L plates and carry a passenger. No motorways.

2. A1 licence, 17 or older, taken on a bike between 80 - 120cc. Pass and you can ride up to 125cc, carry passengers and use a motorway.

3. A2 licence, 17 or older, taken on a bike between 120-125cc capable of 100kph (62.5mph), pass and you can ride any size bike but not exceeding a maximum of 33bhp for 2 years and there is also a power to weight restriction.

4. A licence, 21 or older, must be taken on a bike over 46.7 bhp. Pass and get a full unrestricted licence.

All candidates taking a test require CBT and Theory test certificates.

Not as simple as you would hope is it? From 2008 there will also be an off-road test section (no mud involved) comprising pushing the bike, avoidance action (swerve), slalom, figure of eight, left and right bends, emergency stop, then an on-road test.

Most of this is the result of European directives, ho hum!

Hopefully this is of some help. If you have any other questions then a call to a local training school should prove most helpful. Obviously I can't recommend any in your area as I have no knowledge of them, but I suggest a few phone calls and visits. Ask around, see who has the best reputation.

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Unless the rules have changed with the recent updates, you cant drive/ride abroad until you have held a full category licence for at least 3 years.
If you already hold a car licence (for 3+ years) you could pass your bike test and ride overseas the next day, but at 16 that cant be the case
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Is that really so? I've never heard that before. I spent a month this year riding my bike from the UK to Romania and back, having had my bike licence for less than a year (no car licence at all)! I had no trouble, but then again, nobody asked to see my licence.
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