Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Equipment, Travel > Camping Equipment and all Clothing

Camping Equipment and all Clothing Tents, sleeping bags, stoves etc. Riding clothing, boots, helmets, what to wear when not riding, etc.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 15 Apr 2002
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8
Type of helmet

For an overland trip through Africa, which would be the best type of helmet to take? Full-face with visor, MX style, flip-up etc. Any advice?
__________________
Bruce
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 15 Apr 2002
mmaarten's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: in Samaipata, Boliva
Posts: 578
Hai,

I would absolutely go for a flip-up. When it's very hot, just open it. When you need to ask directions, just open it.
When it's dusty, close it. When it's cold, close it.
etc... etc...

Good luck with making the choise.

by the way, there is a lot if discusion on witch flip up is best. You can find it with the search-function.

Maarten

------------------
- www.maartensworld.tmfweb.nl -
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15 Apr 2002
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 30
I agree with Martin, flip-up is best. Apart from the reasons he mentioned people are often friendlier if they can see your face. A biker with shades and a closed helmet is found to be intimidating by some local people - they can't see your face or your eyes.

regards

George
__________________
George

\"Just grab something and give it hell!\"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16 Apr 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 151
I'm planning a similar trip and have gone for a flip-top. The Caberg lid I've got lets you easily remove the chinguard - turning it into an open face (you can get a kit that makes it a bit more durable).

Sadly the chinguard decided to come loose when I was riding through the Peak district last week - no real problem - but make sure you keep the screws tight!


------------------
Fuzzy Duck
(I'm quackers about bikes)
__________________
Fuzzy Duck
(I\'m quackers about bikes)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18 Apr 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 233
I would LOVE to have a flip up helmet. Problem is, I can't find one that fits. I think I've tried them all, too. They all seem to pinch my forehead. They seem to be tighter up there than standard full face helmets.

Kurt
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18 Apr 2002
Grant Johnson's Avatar
HU Founder
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 1997
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Posts: 4,547
Kurt, don't be afraid to take a Dremel to the styrofoam - 1/8" works wonders. I've gone from unwearable to perfect in less than that. Don't overdo it, be careful, and any difference in safety is minimal - especially when most manufacturers use one shell size for two or more sizes, and make up the fit with more or less styrofoam.

------------------
Grant Johnson

One world, Two wheels.
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
__________________
Grant Johnson

Seek, and ye shall find.

------------------------

Inspiring, Informing and Connecting travellers since 1997!
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 20 Apr 2002
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: London UK
Posts: 16
Quote:
Originally posted by bruce_a_wallace:
For an overland trip through Africa, which would be the best type of helmet to take? Full-face with visor, MX style, flip-up etc. Any advice?
Hi-Ya
Been on the road through Africa for 7 months now. Started with full face but ditched it for MX style with goggles (mask) in Dakar - full face too damn hot! Even with full face or Flip-up visor up, got stung by sand, insects etc. etc. A good MX style helmet with a good pair of goggles (Oakley ?) with spare lens should see you right for years. keeps you cool but never cold. To avoid "fogging" of goggles during rain, treat them with "visor Clear" type treatment!
Good Luck
Andy

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 19 Jun 2002
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 13
Speaking of flip up helments. What is the advantages of a flip up over a regualar 3/4 helment with a face shield? I have heard that after one bounce the flip up portion breaks off and leaves you with no protection anyway. Anyone ever put their flip up to the test? How did it hold up?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 20 Jun 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Belgium
Posts: 473
Heard different things. Personaly had a positive experience with a Caberg about 5 years ago. Crashed with it after a car had run into my side. It held well.
But also heard from a BMW system helmet were the front came off when it hit the ground. Wasn't ideal...

At the moment I have a Nolan system and I am not happy with it. I am considering the Schubert system (with heated viser against fog in the winter) or the Lazer Revolution (like the idea of the face mask against fog and cold).
Who can give me a comparisation between the two? How muc are they? Experiences?
Planning to use them year round.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 19 Jun 2003
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Holland
Posts: 2
Howdy,

I use the Schubert Concept Helmet for 3 years now. It is perfect for me. The BMW helmets are made by Schubert.

See http://www.schuberth.com/index2.htm
__________________
Saludos,

Mauricio
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 19 Jun 2003
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Batley West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 26
I have a lazer flip front which is very comfortable and I have to agree with the thought that people are friendlier if they can see your face.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 22 Nov 2003
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: longmont, co, USA
Posts: 126
WARNING ON FLIP UPS
While racing La Vuelta with Ricardo Rocco, I saw him crash in a brand new HJC flip up. The cheap plastic chin bar came right off and he banged his nose pretty badly. I believe he also had a mild concussion as he could not remeber the next hour or so.

I do not know if other brands are better, but I would definitely NOT get an HJC flip up. Treat it as an open face helmet that happens to keep the wind off your face.

I will keep my full face Shoei, thanks.

On a positive note, Ricardo is doing well (and his crash moved me up to 2nd place and a $1000 prize!).

------------------
Back on the road again.

sogear.com
__________________
Stuck at home...

sopgear.com
velocity-research.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 24 Nov 2003
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 789
the caberg flip-up now has a built in slide down sun visor, that you can use with the chinbar on or off. im thinking of getting one. i think shuberth do something similar, but alot more expensive.

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 24 Nov 2003
Steve Pickford's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 1,025
My girlfriend tried buying the latest Schuberth flip-up in Berlin a few months ago. The smallest size was way too big, despte what the shop owner said. The slide down sun visor was a very loose fit in the helmet & the overall quality left a lot to be desired. She had set her heart on this helmet but settled on a Shoei Raid, considerably cheaper, better fit & ventilation. Also easier to get parts for?

Steve
__________________
My photos: www.possu.smugmug.com
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 27 Nov 2003
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Shropshire, UK.
Posts: 142
I'll throw my 2 pence into this discussion. Note that I have toured with full-face, flip-up, MX and dualsport helmets.

The arguments for flip-ups seem to centre around ventillation and presenting a friendly face;

Ventillation: so it gets hot and you flip up the chin piece in order to let some air in ... and then face plant onto a rock. Ouch! Personally I've never understood why people ride with a helmet without chin protection. Apart from saving your face in an accident they also stop stones and insects impacting on your face as you ride along.

Friendliness: people are much nicer to you if they can see your face. I agree with this point, which is why when I pull up outside a shack in the Atlas mountains to ask for directions I kill the engine, take my helmet off, get off the bike and actually talk to the person. If you're such a rush that there's no time to stop, then I think people will speak to you no matter how you're dressed, or they won't.

Personally I wear an Arai Tour-X, a sort of cross between an MX lid and a full face. In the rain and cold it's got the practicality of a full face helmet, and in the heat and sun it's got the ventillation of an MX lid. I wear tinted goggles with it in hot dusty environments, and in the rain of the UK I use it like a regular full-face helmet. I find it to be well built, well ventillated and comfortable, but I haven't crash tested it yet.

<center> </center>

On the build quality front, you get what you pay for. Of course a £100 flip-up is going to rattle itself to bits on the first corrugated African track. But other manufacturers are now catching up with Shoei and Arai in this area.

How much money is too much to spend on the protection of your head?

Parting shot: the most important thing about a helmet is comfort. It doesn't matter if it cost the earth and has a host of gadgets, if it gives you a migrane every time you put it on you won't give a toss what the locals think about you.

Ride safe, Iain.

[This message has been edited by iswoolley (edited 27 November 2003).]
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 


HU DVD Summer Special!

Now that summer is here, get On the Road! Take 30% off the Achievable Dream - On the Road! 2-DVD set until August 31 only. Get On the Road! Learn the tips to staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure!

Our veteran travellers share their tips (and great stories) for staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure.

"A fantastic, informative and inspirational DVD."

"It's brilliant - thank you very much!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'ONTHEROAD' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:01.