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Flick Up lids seem to be the best for overlanding.
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It worries me too you know......

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Full face.

For me, the likely damage to your face in the event of a crash is too horrendous to consider wearing an open face. I have worn a motorcross lid with goggles for when its raining or windy etc and this has been fine.

Like Martynbiker, I also wear glasses: always have done and I have never had problems with googles. However, my frames are not massive, but they are not tiny either...
It worries me too, and I would love to find a Motocross lid & Goggles that will fit correctly.

What Make of Helmet? & What Brand of Goggles? Please?

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It worries me too, and I would love to find a Motocross lid & Goggles that will fit correctly.

What Make of Helmet? & What Brand of Goggles? Please?

Martyn
I've got a pair of OTG (Over The Glasses) goggles and a Lazer motorcross helmet. The combination works very well for me.
Goggles also worked with previous helmet as well.
I think the goggles are Scott but we've just moved house and whilst I know what box they are in I haven't got to it yet.
I have found the receipt for them though and whilst it doesn't show the make it says they are model 87 and I'm pretty certain they are by Scott.
I'm afraid I'm a couple of days away from getting to the box they are in but I'll confirm when I get there.
Moving house eh, try and avoid it if you can.
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I know this is probably going to sound daft to some but what exactly are the differences between a Moto X lid and a road orientated helmet?

I can see they are a slightly different shape but other than that I know not a lot?

The BIG question is are they as SAFE as a road lid?

Are they a better alternative in the Summer months when it hots up?
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I know this is probably going to sound daft to some but what exactly are the differences between a Moto X lid and a road orientated helmet?

I can see they are a slightly different shape but other than that I know not a lot?

The BIG question is are they as SAFE as a road lid?

Are they a better alternative in the Summer months when it hots up?
Basically, a peak to help keep the flying stones and mud at bay combined with goggles (easy(ish) to change them) in place of a visor.

The Arai Tour X (and one or two more like it) are a compromise with the road going helmet in that it uses a visor with the detachable peak.
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I've got a pair of OTG (Over The Glasses) goggles and a Lazer motorcross helmet. The combination works very well for me.
Goggles also worked with previous helmet as well.
I think the goggles are Scott but we've just moved house and whilst I know what box they are in I haven't got to it yet.
I have found the receipt for them though and whilst it doesn't show the make it says they are model 87 and I'm pretty certain they are by Scott.
I'm afraid I'm a couple of days away from getting to the box they are in but I'll confirm when I get there.
Moving house eh, try and avoid it if you can.
Thank you.

and im allergic to house moves....... did 7 in 7 years..... I couldnt find stuff for YEARS after!
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Exclamation The long neck

Hi, there is a risk with driving with a flip-up helmet open. The slightly higher weight can damage your neck if you take a fall since the weight of the flip-up front is up and above your face, almost on top of your head.

Just keep in mind when driving like that...

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Hi, there is a risk with driving with a flip-up helmet open. The slightly higher weight can damage your neck if you take a fall since the weight of the flip-up front is up and above your face, almost on top of your head.

Just keep in mind when driving like that...

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Angry ?

What is that suppose to mean?
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Open face or flip front - bad idea

As a rider who wears glasses and cannot wear contacts I know fully the hassles of wearing a full face helmet, especially in hot countries.

BUT I have also seen the carnage they cause/allow.. and I would never wear one. If you want to see the graphic results of why not to wear an open face or ride with a flip front up.. then have a look at these;
Earlier in the day:

Whilst waiting for the ambulance:

In the hospital;


If you still don't think they are a bad idea.. then put one on and lay down on the road face down.. arms beside your sides and lift your head up and down.. then imagine that sensation as your sliding down the tarmac at 50mph or more.

Fact : You loose an inch of bare flesh for very second you are sliding on tarmac at 30mph. Once the flesh is gone you start to loose the bone.

The full story for the;
Day Trail Riding In Yorkshire - Page 3 - ADVrider

Don't mean to upset anyone on this, but I really feel strongly that front face helmet are a big risk. Why potentially spoil a trip of a life time, by wearing one when even a small fall could leave you injured and your trip ruined, or worse.
I advise customers when asked to go for moto-x style's like the tour-x or similar for hot climates. But full face always.

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Stupid is as Stupid does, that's why I have two helmets and will be taking both with me.

I got glassed once (hit by flyingbottle) and it did the same to my lip but it was the lower half and it got torn right long where the lip joins the skin so it only looks like a 1cm cut but it was two inches stung like a bitch. Can't even say I got off with the nurse who sowed me back up as it was a he, still could have been much much worse.

You got an after pic? Are you still pretty? Did the misses beat you after?
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John,

Nuff Said!!!!

I trust you have recovered from that awful accident?

All the very best to you.
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JohnW,
Hope you recovered from that crash.
I agree with you because I had an open face and got smacked on the cheek by a Locust, I crashed in a motocross race and my chin bar got ripped off, although I only ended up with a mouth full of sand and a broken wrist.
I have a Lazer flip front which I find heavy, noisy and won't stay up but handy at fuel stations and police checkpoints.
My latest is a Suomy full face which I think is the best helmet I have ever had and my glasses fit great but then I did pay 2,000 Saudi Riyals for it.
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Flipper up or flipper down

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JohnW,
I have a Lazer flip front which I find heavy, noisy and won't stay up but handy at fuel stations and police checkpoints.
Ian
Ian,
I used to have a Lazer flip up, complete with a pull down sun visor inside the normal visor - this all seemed like a great idea in the shop.
But, it was heavy, I rarely (if ever) used the sun visor and I didn't flip the front very often either - so it was sold.
Currently, like you, I am using only full face helmets.


Yes, I agree (I think this is what most people are saying) - don't ride with the flip front helmet in the "up" position, as John is doing in his first pic.
IIRRC (I read John's post on the other website some time ago) he went over the bars and split his lip on the windscreen - which may be a higher than average touring screen?
Anyway, I guess there would have been less injury, pain, nause etc if the flipper was closed during the impact.
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Lazer Sun Visor

Dave,
I used to use the sun visor but because of the slide fitting dirt used to make a line down the centre which was a distraction.
The helmet was noisey especilly when you turned your head to the side to look round.
My Suomy is a race helmet by Drudi Performance for Ducati.
I have kept my Lazer for any passenger who hasn't got a helmet.
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