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I have to ask!

I apoligise I always find these types of questions silly and slightly lazy when I see them on here. But I have been searching for weeks now but there are too many throusands of trousers on the market.

I would like a pair of motorcycle trousers with these basic requirements:

Not waterproof
Breathable
Tought
Black (or dark)
Pockets
Most importantly must have cargo pockets (ie by the knee)
Zip able

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Pants

Here's a thread that may be of interest....

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ng-pants-37465

How's the aftermath of the election???
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I apoligise I always find these types of questions silly and slightly lazy when I see them on here. But I have been searching for weeks now but there are too many throusands of trousers on the market.

I would like a pair of motorcycle trousers with these basic requirements:

Not waterproof
Breathable
Tought
Black (or dark)
Pockets
Most importantly must have cargo pockets (ie by the knee)
Zip able

Thank you George

These might be OK .
Alpinestars Black Label Street Cargo Pants p3407127

I've been thinking about getting some trousers with cargo pockets myself
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in the summer i use kevlar cargo trousers from gialli/hardass, sometimes with added armour depending on what im doing. i dont like the draggin' jeans ones the seam in the kevlar is rough and itchy and the kevlar patches inside are pretty small for the money.
hein gericke maxwell summer pants are good, with mesh panels but i dont know if they still do them. they will do something similar though.
to be honest ive gone off hein gericke a bit lately, their designers have stopped thinking about practical features and more about looks (has anyone out there got the tuareg suit with removeable thermal lining, the lining that also has the waterproof membrane in it? who the hell thought that was a good idea? doesnt it rain when its warm then?) and seem to be made for spider monkeys so get a few sizes bigger than you actually are. they have gone from being top quality to fashion accessories.
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Have you tried BMW summer trousers very light and comfortable zip off lower leg for off the bike very tough, armoured and breathable with good range of pockets and thigh cargo pockets they also do city pants which are similar. They cost about £ 100/ 120 but are well made they are black and I believe sand is the other colour. I have used them quite a lot for travelling and find them excellent - no breaking seams or zips. I am not usually a fan of bmw gear but these are very good. Often available on e bay for not a lot of dosh.
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Hi guys thank you for your help, was just what I needed. I like those Alpinestars, they seem just about perfect, I like they way that they look 'normal' not too flashy. I can't seem to find a pair in the uk.

Oo did some one mention an election? How often do you find 2 billionare twins trying to buy an elcection? Espically when it is a democratic election that they insisited, makes you wonder why they really were wanting a democacy, easyer to buy people? Nice to know that your can't buy the people of this island.

sorry sorry sorry no more politics!

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Try some draggin jeans from here:
Draggin Jeans - Cargo Pants

They´ll be very cheap if you´re paying with euro, pound or usd
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These might be OK .
Alpinestars Black Label Street Cargo Pants p3407127

I've been thinking about getting some trousers with cargo pockets myself
I have these (used them almost constantly for over a year and 24,000+ miles now)... and I can't fault them!

They are nice and light, but feel sturdy enough to protect you in a road-leg interface situation... the CE knee armour pads are a little bulky and loose fitting, but are removable.

The cargo pockets (on each leg) have velcro flaps, and are ideal for a sidestand puck and other quick-to-hand bits and bobs... the fly is a zipper and has a sturdy single popper too.

They are not 100% waterproof, but good showerproof... but more importantly are vented around the top of the knees and rear of the waist - very comfortable in all weather. And loose enough fitting on the leg to wear thermals (or even a pair of jeans) underneath.

They also have a full length silky lining, and zips to the knee to help buckling your boots etc.

They are also very subtile looking, and perfectly fine for wearing out and about to dinner or sightseeing etc.

If you are having trouble finding them in stock, ask an Alpinestars dealer to order them for you, shouldn't be a problem...

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I have these (used them almost constantly for over a year and 24,000+ miles now)... and I can't fault them!

They are nice and light, but feel sturdy enough to protect you in a road-leg interface situation... the CE knee armour pads are a little bulky and loose fitting, but are removable.

The cargo pockets (on each leg) have velcro flaps, and are ideal for a sidestand puck and other quick-to-hand bits and bobs... the fly is a zipper and has a sturdy single popper too.

They are not 100% waterproof, but good showerproof... but more importantly are vented around the top of the knees and rear of the waist - very comfortable in all weather. And loose enough fitting on the leg to wear thermals (or even a pair of jeans) underneath.

They also have a full length silky lining, and zips to the knee to help buckling your boots etc.

They are also very subtile looking, and perfectly fine for wearing out and about to dinner or sightseeing etc.

If you are having trouble finding them in stock, ask an Alpinestars dealer to order them for you, shouldn't be a problem...

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Do the sizes equate to jean sizes , if you took a 34 waist [in say Wrangler jeans ] would you need a 34 in these or would you go bigger or smaller ?
Only asking because I live out in the boonies and have to online order everthing .
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Do the sizes equate to jean sizes , if you took a 34 waist [in say Wrangler jeans ] would you need a 34 in these or would you go bigger or smaller ?
Only asking because I live out in the boonies and have to online order everthing .
Yes, I'd say they are pretty much spot on size wise compared to Levis jeans or something like that. Also the waistband of the Street Cargo pants has two internal velcro tabs so you can adjust them for a perfect fit...

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(btw. some AStars pants are marked S/M/L/XL etc, but this style is waist sized in inches).
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As a thought, I also have the Alpinestars 'Highland' enduro pants - which are visually similar, and have additional zippered vents in the sides of the legs - handy in really hot weather. The also have a zip and popper on each of the cargo pockets (not that this is strictly necessary I've found).

However, they don't have (or have the provision for) built in knee armour, don't have quite as high leg zips for getting over/access to boot buckles, and the waistband, while has external velcro loops for adjustment, doesn't have as stronger popper above the fly (although maybe that's just my particular pair, or too many American burgers?!)

I still use my Highland pants for really filthy off-road riding, but for 'all-terrain' touring, I'd go with the Street Cargo version every time...

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ive got alpinestars leather "bat" pants and they are superbly made, i dont mind the highish price of their stuff because its good value.

never had any of their fabric stuff though, is that good too?
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It's all good - I don't think Alpinestars make a bad bit of kit?

I have loads of their gear - boots, gloves, MX tops and pants, enduro jackets and trousers and a couple of winter cordura jackets too (plus their leather road and winter gloves too)... and have been so pleased I've always replaced like with like...

(do you hear that Alpinestars... now please send me free stuff!)

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It's all good - I don't think Alpinestars make a bad bit of kit?


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this isnt just alpinestars, its most makes. HG is getting that way, now theyre not made in germany anymore but in vietnamese/philipino sweatshops, im sure they cant understand people can actually get that big!
i think alpinestars quality is great but their sizing/shaping leaves a lot to be desired, i find their gloves dont have enough adjustment on the wrists, they dont realise its possible to have large hands and slim wrists so a quick shake and the glove flies off. and their jackets are as bad for me, they dont even make my size but if they did they think that someone with a XXXL chest would have the same diameter neck and the same length arms and body as a small. they just assume a XXXL is a really fat S that only needs a bigger body, they dont think about proportional sizing. the only manufacturer i know that does is probably aerostitch, i was going to get a suit in the summer but didnt, now the pound sucks so bad i wont bother.
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