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Old 19 Jul 2011
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The Sharp tests and ratings also include a "Percentage of impacts where the faceguard remained fully locked" for 'system' helmets;

The Caberg Konda gets 97% (and 5 stars)
The HJC IS Max gets 40% (and 3 stars)
The Shoei Multitech gets 83% (and 3 stars)
The Schubeth C3 gets 97% (and 3 stars)
The Shrk Evoline gets 70% (and 4 stars)

My hard earned went on the Caberg, which I got for £99. The Shoei and Schubeth are both above £400.

As I said before, what else do we have to go on?

Clive
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The "hjc is multi" is not listed. does this mean it failed the test or the list is not up to date?
I really like this helmet and as a spectacle wearer find those with fixed chin guards near impossible to get on. I really do miss the peak when riding into the sun.
Either not submitted or failed or too new to be included. Test houses never publish the fails, it puts designers off trying anything new for fear of brand contamination (and hence reduces the fees).

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So a bloke who keeps his helmets 8-years and got customer service he wasn't happy with decides a moulded plastic screw mount "looks a bit small". (That self tapper will take well over 500N, I don't have the tables here to check it).

Where's the impact test. Where's the stress calculation? Where's the proof it didn't break because he accidentally knocked it off the seat while getting ready to set off, or got stuck with an unfamilair mechanism, or decided he fancied a game of football?

This proves that where there is a mechanism rather than structure, damage can be investigated by a strip down and nothing more. If HJC took him to a UK court for liable he'd end up quite a bit poorer.

Sorry, still not proven, except maybe that the official tests tell us nothing more than helmet good, no helmet bad. Thanks for posting though, another hundred of these and you might form a better picture.

Andy
I ll say this about My flip up made by HJC Peace of crap. One day after dropping it off my chair and onto the carpeted floor it wouldn't stay open. It's 2 feet to the ground. Once I took the face off to see why it was acting up , I found out just how bad they make them. The brass nuts which hold the face on 2 felt off in the holes out of four.( No way to get them back because the foam shell is in the way) Found out they are just held there by crazy glue when I asked HJC. At least one hole shows cracking in the fiberglass around it. ( This from a never crashed helmet.) The 1 Plastic peace that holds the helmet face up is broken. I m guessing just it just wore out. HJC is worse then Vega flips ups. At least when it broke I knew that I had go my 50 bucks of of it. The reason it broke was the wire inside the flip mech snapped. Vega in wa state didn't want to warranty the helmet. Told me don't call us again. Vega is a crap company . HJC is 150 bucks down the drain do to bad design.. I m going with Nolan n90 for 220 bucks. You could also get the Nolan n102 for 150 from Extreme Supply, The Original street and off-road motorcycle products and accessories
Both have metal instead of plastic in the hocks that hole the face in place. Also Nolan N90 is 2010 flip helment of the year at webbike.com
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I currently own the following three flip front helmets:

Caberg Justissimo

Flip front with integrated sun visor (an awesome feature). Not certified as an open faced helmet (Only shark and Boxer are as far as I know. Looks a bit old I think. Easy to operate. Didn't fit well arround the ears for neither me nor my wife, especially with intercom put in it - which is why I decided to replace it with the next helmet. I have written favourable reviews for this helmet before, and I don't have a problem reccomending a purchase as long as it fits your head well, with a headset!

Roof Boxer
Flip front without integrated sun visor, which I really missed. Certified also as an open face helmet. Looks really cool, one of the coolest on the market. Offers great visibility and space for your own chin, and using it with a headset is no problem. It was for me really comfortable, except the ventilated holes blew air right up my nose, it felt like it was running (my friend has the same helmet and does not have this problem) I had a slightly tinted visor, which proved a mistake at nightfall. Operating the two fastners is fiddly, as is getting the visor closed properly, which is why I decided to replace it with the next helmet. I cannot reccomend this helmet.

Shark Evoline Series 3
It has everything the others have, and lacks nothing. It is very easy to operate once you've got the procedure nailed (you can't lower the chin with the visor in the lower position, you have to lower the chin, then the visor). It has a built in sun visor, it is certified as an open faced helmet. As with the boxer, you can use it with or without the visor, and/or with or without the chin (and with or without the sun visor for the shark only). The shark's chin folds back in very aero dynamic way, and the chin is extremely light and offers plenty of room for your own chin and a boom bar intercom microphone. I have not tried it with intercom, but there are padding pieces that can be removed, specifically to accomodate a head set. It doesn't look as cool as the boxer, but is far cooler than the caberg. It has a fast buckle chin strap, as with the boxer. But, I think it is not as comfortable... I might do something about this, but it isn't bad enough to warrant changing it. For me there is a slight pressure point on the forehead, which does create some discomfort after riding for 12-15 hours straight.

I don't think a better flip front excist....
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I have used a Shark Evoline for about 12 months and have found it excellent - most useful. My previous helmet was a BMW 2 which came off in a crash causing concussion and 6 weeks off work. This is the result: It came off with the chin piece closed and latched. I now wouldn't use a helmet without an absolutely foolproof fastening such as "D" rings (which my Shark has) and a really good, tight fit.
I'm lucky to be alive (and thanks to the Royal Flying Doctor) and the moral of the story is to be wearing a helmet when you hit the ground.

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