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Old 8 Nov 2005
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I 've been using kappa lagguage and kappa racks two 42ltr and one 52 top case(f650gs Dakar 05) . Very satisfied but only used them on highway. The price is great and kappa is Givi's cheapest version but only using different name.
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I 've been using kappa lagguage and kappa racks two 42ltr and one 52 top case(f650gs Dakar 05) . Very satisfied but only used them on highway. The price is great and kappa is Givi's cheapest version but only using different name.
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The issue of what racks and panniers to use isn't as simple as it first seems. I asked my BMW dealer to fit the very heavy duty Tesch racks, on the basis that they reinforce the rear sub frame of my R100GSPD. They said that this is a bad idea.

Three reasons: 1) rigid frames are more likely to crack 2) in doing so they are more lokely to damage the rear sub-frame 3) they are more likely to break your legs if you get trapped under them. In fact, on the latter point they had doubts about the safety of big steel panniers. I suspect that is based on Ted Simon's nasty accident with Tesch panniers.

On the first and second points they may in facy have been proven right. I crashed at 85mph, running up against a motorway barrier so hard that a hole was ripped in the top of a Tesch pannier. The bike stayed quite up-right, leaning against the left hand Tesch pannier. The lightweight Hepco & Becker rails bent out of shape. There was no damage to the sub-frame, and the BMW dealer was able to bend the rails back into shape with no problems. Since then I've been over quite a few times off-road, and the rails are still fine.

Another tip. If you use a Touratech tank bag with side bags hanging down the side of the tank, don't pack a side bag with tools. I now have a permanently swollen left leg.

Am happy to be using only an Ortlieb dry bag on a trip to Africa in January. Lightweight is best.
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Dont understand why they havent been mentioned yet? But Hepco & Becker panniers rock!! I wrote off my new Dakar during my December "trip" but the panniers came out with only a minor dent - ready for the next dakar. They really are very good. I got mine in South Africa from Tours for Africa i think their adress is www.toursforafrica.co.za

By the way i also used a Hepco & Becker crash bar which is also the best ive seen for a dakar.

Good luck
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