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Which route to take

My girlfriend is going to fly to Australia to meet me sometime in August/September and now we are wondering which route would be better for 2-up riding?:
- Perth to Adelaide
- Brisbane to Melbourne

We have roughly three weeks to do one of these legs.
We do not do diving.
Plan is to camp quite much and also use hostels/motels.
We are not looking "tourist" attractions (crowded by tourists)
She said that she would like to do quite much camping in the wild (as we did in Kazakhstan).

So, all comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
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I have rode the latter and can recommend it. There's a lot of interesting places to visit, and I think in three weeks you will do both a fair bit of riding and be able to see a lot of sites.
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My girlfriend is going to fly to Australia to meet me sometime in August/September and now we are wondering which route would be better for 2-up riding?:
- Perth to Adelaide
- Brisbane to Melbourne

We have roughly three weeks to do one of these legs.
We do not do diving.
Plan is to camp quite much and also use hostels/motels.
We are not looking "tourist" attractions (crowded by tourists)
She said that she would like to do quite much camping in the wild (as we did in Kazakhstan).

So, all comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
Easy!

Perth to Adelaide is boooorrring!

Brisbane to Melbourne- with a detour or three, especially taking one of the more inland routes - is great!
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I just did Perth to Adelaide (and onwards to Melbourne) and can confirm its pretty empty. Which is actually quite fascinating if you're not used to immense open spaces. I enjoyed it, especially after the insanely crowded roads in Indonesia... And you meet some interesting characters along the way. Brisbane to Melbourne has more to see, to do and better riding roads but felt "too normal" to me (rode it three years ago). If that makes sense...
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Perth to Adelaide

I have been living in Adelaide for over 20 years and am still finding great rides around the state. The Nullarbor can be long and tedious but has hidden gems. The Eyre Peninsula is stunning and so is most of South Australia. If you decide to do this route hit me up and I could offer some advise and perhaps accommodation. We will be overseas doing a ride of Alaska until mid September but after we can help you out. Good luck
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Brisbane Melbourne will have more variety (people, scenery, facilities) than Perth Adelaide.

Camping? At an 'organized camp ground' .. then Brisbane Melbourne. 'Remote' self sufficient camping can be done on either route.. more possibilities on the Perth Adelaide route, you'd have to be more careful on the route you would use for Brisbane Melbourne.
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Thank you all for quick answers.
Hmmm, hard to make a call. Both seem to have their own highlights...
We really loved the empty roads in Kazakhstan, so I think it will be my gf´s decision, because I will continue to ride around Australia after she returns back to europe.

In the east coast, can you recommend a "must see" place (we are more interested of natures wonders)?
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There are a few..
Suggest you look at the list of 'National Parks' -- they are actually state based so you have 3

Department of National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing (Department of National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing)
Home | NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service
parkweb.vic.gov.au/

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Most Ozies go for the alpine areas around the boarder of NSW and Victoria. But you probably have 'better'.

I'd come down out 'Great Diving Range' to say Tamworth (there are some Zig Zags I'd do to get in some 'good' roads .. and I'd see a beach or 3 to cool off) then Mudgee, Lithgow, Wombeyan Caves, Canberra, Adaminaby, Tintaldra, Omeo,
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There are a few..
Suggest you look at the list of 'National Parks' -- they are actually state based so you have 3

Department of National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing (Department of National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing)
Home | NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service
parkweb.vic.gov.au/

Before you leave Qld ... Best of All Lookout - Things To See and Do - Queensland Holidays

Most Ozies go for the alpine areas around the boarder of NSW and Victoria. But you probably have 'better'.

I'd come down out 'Great Diving Range' to say Tamworth (there are some Zig Zags I'd do to get in some 'good' roads .. and I'd see a beach or 3 to cool off) then Mudgee, Lithgow, Wombeyan Caves, Canberra, Adaminaby, Tintaldra, Omeo,
Thanks Warin,
I need to mark these places to the map.
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Easy!

Perth to Adelaide is boooorrring!

Brisbane to Melbourne- with a detour or three, especially taking one of the more inland routes - is great!
If you found it boring- then it's you and not the areas


It offers some of the most remote riding you can do, with plenty of history, experiences and nature if you can get yourself to spend some time exploring rather than "rushing through" over the Nullarbor lie most seem to do.

And the sad part (for people like Jeroen), is that the Nullarbor is now in the same "condition" as it was last in the 70's- if you missed it, you missed out and who knows how many decades you'll have to wait to see it like this again? Australia is an arid place and it's never the same twice. No matter how many times I head out over the plains, it's never the same for me.

Esperance to Border- Border run 2010 part 1 - ADVrider
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and if you run some searches, you'll find much more. I'm not going trying to sell it, but if you decide to come this way, let me know and I'd be happy to arrange a little sightseeing trip for you (or come stay a few days and you can mark some places on a map if you want to do it on your own)
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It offers some of the most remote riding you can do, with plenty of history, experiences and nature if you can get yourself to spend some time exploring rather than "rushing through" over the Nullarbor lie most seem to do.

And the sad part (for people like Jeroen), is that the Nullarbor is now in the same "condition" as it was last in the 70's- if you missed it, you missed out and who knows how many decades you'll have to wait to see it like this again? Australia is an arid place and it's never the same twice. No matter how many times I head out over the plains, it's never the same for me.

Esperance to Border- Border run 2010 part 1 - ADVrider
Central Aus- August 2011 - ADVrider

and if you run some searches, you'll find much more. I'm not going trying to sell it, but if you decide to come this way, let me know and I'd be happy to arrange a little sightseeing trip for you (or come stay a few days and you can mark some places on a map if you want to do it on your own)
Nice photos there! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the invitation, I will be in that area at some point, not sure yet when.
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It offers some of the most remote riding you can do, with plenty of history, experiences and nature if you can get yourself to spend some time exploring rather than "rushing through" over the Nullarbor lie most seem to do.
No rushing for us - we'll be coming over on Posties!
Would actually like to find some off-road tracks so we don't have to tango with the trucks.
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No rushing for us - we'll be coming over on Posties!
Would actually like to find some off-road tracks so we don't have to tango with the trucks.


Send me a PM and we can discuss- I can send you some gps tracks that'll keep you off the highway from about Penong to Norseman (or further if you like)

And I'm always willing to assist feloow travellers if they get bogged out there- most of the roadhouses are total ripoffs and there to make money, not be helpful

And if it coincides with the Border run on the 1st weekend in August, I'll be out there anyway
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Send me a PM and we can discuss- I can send you some gps tracks that'll keep you off the highway from about Penong to Norseman (or further if you like)
Cheers mate. It'll probably be around Feb next year and I'm hoping it won't be too hot... specially for the pommies.
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then Mudgee, Lithgow, Wombeyan Caves, Canberra, Adaminaby, Tintaldra, Omeo,
We kicked off our 09 Oz trip down through that area & had a ball, great riding, scenery, wildlife & neat campsites. It might be getting a little cold in places in Aug/Sept though? I'd be thinking about looping out & down through the warmer outback desert areas at that time of year.

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