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KTM 390 Allroad

Hola,
i have heard that KTM is going to make a allroad version of the duke 390.
(A 200cc and a 375cc)
Does anyone has more info?

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KTM 125, 200 and 390 Adventure dual purpose bikes in pipeline. India launch possible - Motoroids.com
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Hola,
i have heard that KTM is going to make a allroad version of the duke 390.
(A 200cc and a 375cc)
Does anyone has more info?

Thanks

An Adventure version of the 390 could be pretty nice, given that KTM has dealer representation in quite a few markets.
If you look at Indian pricing of the Duke, could be made very affordable...

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Excellent news if it's true, and why shouldn't it be? It makes huge sense for KTM to maximize their investment in their Indian production facility, the existing small Duke range offers a platform to start from and the Indian market is huge and growing. If you're a young professional in the sub-continent then a KTM adventure bike has got to be very attractive and given prevailing road conditions it makes huge sense for a smaller engine than anything in KTM's current range.

Every Indian I've ever met seems to be sports mad, motorsports included, so a range of small capacity Dakar-esque bikes would no doubt sell like hot cakes.

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An Adventure version of the 390 could be pretty nice, given that KTM has dealer representation in quite a few markets.
If you look at Indian pricing of the Duke, could be made very affordable...

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The "Duke 200" cost around 5000 Euro in Europa i think, in Ecuador
6500 dollar.
They cost about 2000 Euro in India.
I hope that a 200 or 390 will come soon to South America,but why so
much difference in price?
Are the small cc motorbikes they the milk cow of KTM?
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The "Duke 200" cost around 5000 Euro in Europa i think, in Ecuador
6500 dollar.
They cost about 2000 Euro in India.
I hope that a 200 or 390 will come soon to South America,but why so
much difference in price?
Are the small cc motorbikes they the milk cow of KTM?
I've seen one magazine article predicting a strong grey market in the UK given the price differential...

I compared the price of the Royal Enfield Bullet in India versus here: around $8000 locally compared to not much over $2000 in India. Supposedly the export versions have better components, but still...

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That is really crazy so much difference!!
Offcouse the shipping company a midleman and a dealer al want some $$
but i find it a litle hard to pay over 3 times the price of the reall cost.
And i am not a person that sits on his money,i enjoy spending
but there is a limit.
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Well, the Indian dealer price for the 390 is just over US$3000, from searches I did. That likely includes local taxes and dealer markup.

I shipped a bunch of stuff halfway around the world last year, and it cost me $55 per 5 cubic feet, from the agent in a small Connecticut town to my girlfriend's house in SE Asia. Even multiplying by 10, that's only $550, and as I would assume they would be shipping a full container load of crated machines, the shipping costs and the actual shipping volume should both be lower.

Chalk up the rest to compliance with government regulations, import duties and the costs of maintaining a corporate infrastructure, including sales management and marketing (which is a huge cost in any US product company I've worked at).

In smaller countries where you have an independent distributor, add in some potential greed / profit and low unit sales volumes
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For the Royal Enfield for example, they are pretty different in Switzerland than in india. To be allowed to be driven on the road in Switzerland, the importer has to modified the bikes.

They have fuel injection and catalytic exhaust. For us at least it's impossible to buy an Enfield in India by ouselves and then drive it in Switzerland. I was interested about it a few years ago and I even heard that you were not allowed to exit india with it. Registring a bike that is not officially imported is pretty long, difficult and expensive...
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Best info I can give you is the bike in your picture is an 1190 KTM adventure R, so roughly twice the size and weight of any 390 you are asking about, and no doubt looking completely different too.

Always double check stories coming out of India. Those guys use more spin (and irrelevant unconnected bike photos) than anyone.

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Hola,
i have heard that KTM is going to make a allroad version of the duke 390.
(A 200cc and a 375cc)
Does anyone has more info?

Thanks


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great stuff if KTM do this they will onto a winner.

Small capacity adventure travel bikes make so much sense.

Better MPG,
cheaper purchase price
cheaper components
less wear ie tyres etc
lighweight
easier to ride and much easier to enjoy off road

I got bored of riding big engined bikes, hey if your route is RTW and you want to carry pillion and everything including the kitchen sink then great take a huge bike. but you are going to get stuck and a local is going to cruise past on a little moped and then the penny will drop!

Little Teneres, Small KTM's it's where the future is at.

250 cc - 500cc bikes offer plenty of power to haul light camping loads and part time pillions.

sure on my 250 there are times when I wish for a little more power but my little 250 is putting out about half the power of the new 390 KTM.
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