Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Middle East

Middle East Topics specific to the Middle East countries, from Syria south to Yemen
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23 Feb 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - carnet required, o stamp in passport?

Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - Is a carnet required, or do they just put a stamp in your passport for the motorcycle?

Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25 Feb 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Genova, Italy - Kabul, Afghanistan
Posts: 201
Carnet is mandatory in Egypt, convenient in Syria. Probably needed in Lebanon as well, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, forget Syria (and Libya and maybe Lebanon) if you have an Israeli stamp on your passport, or even a stamp from a border crossing in a neighboring country leading to Israel.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25 Feb 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 148
Just save Israel for last! I managed to visit Israel without getting a stamp in my passport, but I also had to leave my bike in Jordan to make it work (there's a post here somewhere on that topic.)

And take Chris Scott's advice from "Sahara Overland" regarding the question of travel to Egypt... Don't go! If you ignore this advice, you definitely DO need a carnet. You also need lots of patience and good sense of humour.

As for the other countries, I used my carnet for all of them, but I'm not entirely sure if I needed to. It makes things easier, though.
__________________
Jeremy Kroeker
www.MotorcycleTherapy.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25 Feb 2008
ozhanu's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 797
definately no carnet is needed for Turkiye. you just need insurance which you can buy at the border for 15-20 Euros.
__________________
ozhan u.
website under construction
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26 Feb 2008
beddhist's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Whangarei, NZ
Posts: 2,227
Correct, but if you have a carnet you can save money in TR by presenting it on entry.
__________________
Cheers,
Peter.

Europe to NZ 2006-10
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26 Feb 2008
dnicoletti's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: milan, italy
Posts: 152
carnet is mandatory, for egypt only!
not 4 turkey (low fee insurance at the border), sirya (30eu. nov.2003), jordan (same as above), and lebanon (get in throug damascus).
u can get in israel w/out any stamps on your passport. but only if you planned to go out by sea or what else. dont go back to sirya, even u haven't
passport signed, there it will be a void of time to explain to the siryan custom...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 3 Mar 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Thanks. But if I get the bike on my passport in Israel, then exit to Jordan, then take the ferry to Egypt, then get a new passport issued from the embassy in Cairo without an Israeli stamp, is there any reason why I should have a problem then going back to Jordan, and then to Syria?

If Jordan does not require a carnet, then my carnet will show I exited Egypt at the Jordan crossing. Then it will show that about 6 weeks later I entered Egypt at the same crossing. I could have been in Jordan the entire time. My new passport will be issued in Egypt, and only show Egypt and Jordan before I go to Syria.

What is the problem with this solution?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 15 Mar 2008
dnicoletti's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: milan, italy
Posts: 152
there is not any problem if "loose" your first passport, and have enough
time to wait for a new one in Cairo. in my case, with five weeks only to reach the Red sea and back to italy, every single day it count...

Have a nice trip.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 15 Mar 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA USA
Posts: 320
Quote:
Originally Posted by dnicoletti View Post
there is not any problem if "loose" your first passport, and have enough
time to wait for a new one in Cairo.
Check around here, but I'm not sure that's true. I'm pretty sure Sudan does not take passports less than six months old because of people using this trick. I don't think Syria does either.

For ages, Israel has been stamping a blank piece of paper, but if you have a stamp from the border to Jordan, they are going to know what's on the other side of that bridge and not let you in. I recently read here that Egypt will stamp a blank paper when you leave and arrive from Isreal. If that's true, then that's the way to go, but you better make sure.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18 Dec 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2
Is there a problem if your passport is stamped with a Syrian stamp and crossing the border from Jordan to Israel?

If not, I will go from Turkey to Syria and Jordan to Israel and by ship back to Europe comming summer.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 20 Dec 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 148
It's not so easy to ship to Europe from Israel anymore. (Nothing is impossible.) If you want to enter Israel with no stamp in your passport you can do it via the King Hussein Bridge, but you'll have to leave your bike in Jordan. You'll also have to leave Israel AND Jordan before your Jordanian visa expires.

Sigh. I've posted on this topic so many times on other thread's that I no longer have the energy to repeat myself. The point is, you CAN visit Israel and continue through Arab countries, but it requires a little luck and careful planning (I've done it! And I know others who have done it!).

And, yeah, the "loosing your passport" trick has been done to death. It's tough to get away with these days. (Nothing is impossible.) Too bad.
__________________
Jeremy Kroeker
www.MotorcycleTherapy.com
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 6 Feb 2010
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: on our bike!
Posts: 19
Passport Stamps at Jordan/Syria Borders

Hello hello,

We are a couple planning a route to go from UAE to Jordan/Syria through Saudi Arabia with one motorcycle. We are looking for possible ways to store motorcycle in Jordan/Syria, fly back to UAE, and return to it a couple months later to continue on our trans-Europe trip. And we don't plan to get a carnet de passage as it drives up cost.

Does anyone out there know for fact what stamp they put in the passport when crossing into Jordan and/or Syria? We heard that they write down vehicle information which means we cannot leave the motorcycle behind. Has this happened to anyone?

Sorry if this question has been answered somewhere else, but I've searched and can't seem to find a solid answer.

Many thanks,
Shu
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8 Feb 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: London
Posts: 552
Can't answer for Syria or the UAE, but we entered Jordan with our Landcruiser through Aqaba and then left it at the Allenby Bridge border crossing when we did a cheeky little side-trip into Israel - no issues at all. Re the passport stamp thing, you can ask the Jordanians to stamp you out on a separate piece of paper, and the Israelis to do the same thing - that way the passport doesn't show 'exited Jordan at Allenby Bridge' nor 'entered Israel'.
__________________
www.overlandcruiser.net
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Egypt - Jordan - Syria - Turkey off road pistes wanted demito Middle East 5 23 Apr 2011 14:12
The turkey to egypt though israel and back problem ryanclark11 Middle East 1 30 Jun 2004 05:44
Carnet Lebanon Syria Jordan jamieT Trip Paperwork 0 25 Jun 2004 19:54
Do Turkey, Cyprus, Israel, Syria & Jordan stamp your passpor gipsy Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 6 27 May 2002 05:38
Turkey syria jordan egypt...... chiacchio Travellers Seeking Travellers 2 10 Apr 2002 18:58

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!

Next HU Eventscalendar

See all events

 

Latvia to Australia, an inspirational 5 month journey full of unexpected adventures!

HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.

 

Scottoiler automatic chain oilers. The most important accessory for your next motorcycle adventure!

Renedian Adventures

Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:45.