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Old 22 Aug 2008
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Ortlieb Motorcycle Saddle Bags


Just got my RD07 AT (finally)! I'm looking at pannier options, and I'm thinking about getting the Ortlieb Saddle bags. The problem is that I have just discovered how hot the AT exhaust gets (the burn in the bottom of my overtrousers is testimony to this).

Are the ortliebs really an option, or do I need to go with metal boxes. I'm planning on doing a fair amount of offroading (Africa ).

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Adam

The Ortliebs are very good bag, but, ideally, they need a rack to both support them and keep them clear of the exhaust. My Dommie had them when I bought it and a very good set they were too. I only took them off because I'm a fan of hard panniers and a set came up on eBay just before I left.

There's any amount of info/debate if you do some searches, and the AMH is very good on this topic, and everything else. for that matter.

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Originally Posted by adamwsmith6580 View Post
Just got my RD07 AT (finally)! I'm looking at pannier options, and I'm thinking about getting the Ortlieb Saddle bags.
Are the ortliebs really an option,.......... fair amount of offroading (Africa ).
I would suggest to read the recent discussion about:

Ortlieb panniers or andy strapz expedition pannierz?

one tip, the Ortieb's made out of thinner materiel and I managed to rip a bag... well Ortlieb sales a repair kit with glue and patches in a collection of several colourers ............. creating a funny spotty patchwork after a few crashes....
About the exhaust heat..... well it's a problem with Ortlieb's !
If you find some heat resistant F1-material (cost some £36 a qm but good) you can cover the place on the bag to protect it from melting away. (ask Kim at All Wheel Trim Ltd. index + he makes engine coveres for the F1-circus if you need this heat resistance fabric)
This means the best way is to cover the whole firm foam back on one side.....

I know there are not may companies who make soft bags for bikes, but it's well worth to avoid any additional weight especially going off-road.
If you drop your bike and you end up having a limp trapped under a soft-bag, well not to bad, but a hard-box.... may not as healthy.....
May consider a MOD-Rucksack type of baggage, no more than 50 to 70Lt size, strapped on top of the parcel carrier or a big pack roll........ well I found out that if I drop my bike or have to push it in some situations, that a hard-box or "Ordlieb" gets in my way... a rucksack is easy taken off just by undoing the strap's.

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Thanks Spooky and Mick.

yeah, I agree with the reasons for the soft bag (weight, ease of removal etc). The bikes been fitted with a non-standard Remus can which really sticks out, and gets incredibly hot. I'll have a look at the AMH about advice for racks. In fact, I'll see about getting some photos taken and put here, might be able to make things clearer.
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