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Old 9 Jan 2012
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Shipping from New Zealand to Australia

I just air shipped my bike from NZ to AU with Green Freight. Really good guys that do a lot of bikes.

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steve.spector <[AT]> greenfreight {<Dott>] co [[ddot] nz
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The bike when uncrated and the costs where (in NZ$):
frieght: $1410.15 a chargeable weight of 595kg.
doc fee/airway doc fee/dangerous good fee and certs/tax/etc: $400

I got there late and so I couldn't 'shrink' the bike at all and just disconnected the battery, so another BMW GSA would be less. That being said, the whole thing took less than 30 minutes and they didn't just tell me to come back next week since I was late, so no complaints.

*Quick update: The fees at the Quantas side in AU were $160 and the biohazard inspection fee was $90AU. The biohazard thing had me doing some running around, but as an FYI until they found out that the bike was uncrated they wanted me to truck it their Rosebury facility (about 6km away) for inspection. Once they knew it was uncrated they did the inspection there out of the quaratine office at Quantas. I still had to go over to Rosebury ($15AU return on train, get off at 2nd stop, Green Square, 10 minute walk- they'll give you a map) to pay for it and have them ask the people at the airport to do the inspection. A bit of a pain, but better than trucking. The inspection itself lastest all of 30 seconds as the woman just walked around it and said "looks good". Since the bike came from NZ I'm sure things were easier, but all and all I'd really try to get the people at the Quantas quarantine control to do it.

So, a grand total of around $1650USD for everything for a BMW 1200 GSA completely untouched- windscreen, rearview mirrors, and panniers (3) still attached.
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Hi,
Given that it was only one bike why was the weight so much?? I am looking at shipping a DR, fully loaded I would expect the weight to be around 200+kg. Is the calculation including a volume element?
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volumetric weight

If you have time to detach the handle bars, take off the front wheel & can drop the rear suspension you'll reduce how much you have to pay.

The following link explains it pretty well:

DHL | Volumetric Weight: Express | English

They will use the greater of the two weights; actual or volumetric. If I do all the above, I will have a greater actual weight for my bike.

You can expect a KLR/DR to about 170kg dim. not including panniers.
CJ.
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Thanks for the advice.
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Hi DRad,

thanks for sharing this info!

I tried twice to get a quote from greenfright through their online form and never got anything back but a "we will soon answere your request".

Let´s see, if your contact is better.

Greetings from Argentina

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Hallo everyone,


Have shipped with Green Freight two weeks ago from Auckland to Brisbane, here's my experience with them:

The quot I was given wasn't right- so i ended up paying 300$ more than I was quoted.
The bike wasn't flown on the same day Ive dropped it as agreed, so I had a two weeks wait in expensive OZ, compliments of Green Fright, and the bike was just delayed and delayed, till I got it today.
If I had to ship it again I'll:

Ship by myself with Qantas Cargo from Auckland. They will deal with anyone, so an agent is not compulsory in this case. Qantas are located just opposite GF, give them a call.
Pack the bike on a Small home made crate, or get one from the helpfull BMW dealers in town. Get an agent at the airport (Qantas will point you in the right direction) to do the GD declaration, and you're all good to go.
Should cut cost by half I recon. Customs can be done alone as well, all easy and friendly.

Make sure they have BOOKING for your fright, so you don't end up waiting in very expensive OZ without the bike, and transport to/from the airports are not cheap..
Customs and inspection in Brisbane took 4 hours in total- just stamp the carnet, get the bike inspected (clean it well before you ship it over, including the tent, etc) in 10 Minutes, and cost at Brisbane airport is about 170 Aussie $.

Hope this helps,
Adam
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Have shipped with Green Freight two weeks ago from Auckland to Brisbane, here's my experience with them:

The quot I was given wasn't right- so i ended up paying 300$ more than I was quoted.
Similar experience for me with Steve S and Green Freight back in March 2010, air freighting from Auckland to Melbourne.

With just two days to go before the shipping date, and with no real time in hand to shop around, Cockney-Steve must have thought that he had me over a barrel .. and subsequently jacked-up the chargeable weight from 462.50 to 562.00 kilos. He also raised the quoted chargeable rate /kilo from $2.45 to $3.00 at a stroke of the pen .. an instant increase of 22%. Maybe I look like I have too much money?! .. which is sadly NOT the case ..

All-in-all, instead of paying the originally quoted price of NZ$1,555.10, I ended-up paying NZ$1,785.50; an increase of over 230 dollars. Needless to say, I was NOT impressed!

If I had my time over again, then I would go like Adam suggests .. DIY all the way.

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Ship by myself with Qantas Cargo from Auckland. They will deal with anyone, so an agent is not compulsory in this case. Qantas are located just opposite GF, give them a call.
Pack the bike on a Small home made crate, or get one from the helpfull BMW dealers in town. Get an agent at the airport (Qantas will point you in the right direction) to do the GD declaration, and you're all good to go.
Should cut cost by half I recon. Customs can be done alone as well, all easy and friendly.
Hi Adam,

thanks for sharing your experience, since I consider to ship with Greenfreight, too.

Where does your knowledge of the Quantas-procedure come from?
Please forgive me the question: why didn´t you do it with Quantas?

What do you mean with "crate"? A pallet or a box?

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Hallo everyone,


Have shipped with Green Freight two weeks ago from Auckland to Brisbane, here's my experience with them:

The quot I was given wasn't right- so i ended up paying 300$ more than I was quoted.
The bike wasn't flown on the same day Ive dropped it as agreed, so I had a two weeks wait in expensive OZ, compliments of Green Fright, and the bike was just delayed and delayed, till I got it today.
If I had to ship it again I'll:

Ship by myself with Qantas Cargo from Auckland. They will deal with anyone, so an agent is not compulsory in this case. Qantas are located just opposite GF, give them a call.
Pack the bike on a Small home made crate, or get one from the helpfull BMW dealers in town. Get an agent at the airport (Qantas will point you in the right direction) to do the GD declaration, and you're all good to go.
Should cut cost by half I recon. Customs can be done alone as well, all easy and friendly.

Make sure they have BOOKING for your fright, so you don't end up waiting in very expensive OZ without the bike, and transport to/from the airports are not cheap..
Customs and inspection in Brisbane took 4 hours in total- just stamp the carnet, get the bike inspected (clean it well before you ship it over, including the tent, etc) in 10 Minutes, and cost at Brisbane airport is about 170 Aussie $.

Hope this helps,
Adam
Thanks Adam, we will be shipping to OZ in a few months. I'll try the Qantas route when we do.

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WoW,

Thats bad news, i have an offer to shipp my bike to Melbourne from Auckland over 1445 NZDollar, from Steve S and Green Freight. I will Fligth over on the 11. April and i have a meeting with him on the 10. April. I crate the Bike, have my crate in Auckland. 1 crate , 289 kgs , 2.334cbm.....
I hope i have no problems.

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Hallo Panny,


1. Qantas. Since I had a week to wait in Brisbane for the bike, I’ve talked with the Qantas people in the airport about mu shipping, and they all agreed that it could have been done with them directly.
2. Because Green Freight has such a name for been easy, cheap and punctual, my “defenses” where down, and I honestly booked my flight (like another HUBB member did) for that same afternoon, thinking all is booked and ready. Green fright knew I was flying that evening, and the AKL airport is a bit far from everywhere, so changing my travel plan would have cost me more (IE, new ticket, taxi back, new shipping arrangements, etc).
3. By “Crate” I meant a Pallet.

>>>Shipping routes: I’ve opted to ship to Brisbane, since it suited my travel plans better. Sydney is the main cargo hub, so it will be a lot faster to ship there,
Since there’s a lot of cargo (Well, the big ones that can carry a bike on board) flights from AKL to Sydney every day. If you ship to any other destination in OZ, it will go Via Sydney anyway, and then loaded on a different Cargo plane, this mind you, can take a few days..

Hope this helps,
Adam, in Coffs Harbor, OZ
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Graham Smith at Green Freight

To be fair, I've heard that Steve S's colleague, Graham Smith*, is a straightforward kinda guy to do business with .. BUT I could never get hold of Graham for a variety of bizarre reasons, which is why I ended up having to cut the Green Freight deal with Steve. I suggest, therefore, that you try and get hold of and deal with Graham Smith at GF.

* Although I am not sure that Graham Smith still works for Green Freight - maybe he's moved on to greener pastures?

To put matters into perspective: even the final revised price from Green Freight was still considerably cheaper than the NZ$2,424.51 that Auckland-based Go Logistics quoted at the time (March 2010) for the same job. Indeed, it's worth mentioning that some members of this forum highly rate Go Logistics as shippers.

Just goes to show that international freight is really just a big ol' lottery game at the end of the day! .. :confused1:
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Just goes to show that international freight is really just a big ol' lottery game at the end of the day! .. :confused1:
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Ain't that the truth! Going NZ-Oz & back in 09 Qantas told us to bugger off & use a freight forwarder. Greenfreight were a little vague about the exact costs for some parts of the process (& we all know where that leads...$$$$) Go Logistics gave us a reasonable & detailed quote which was very close to the final all up cost at the end of the day. Airfreight prices also seem to vary wildly, our 350kg 2.5m3 crate cost NZ$1600 with Go, other quotes ranged up to $4000!

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I can´t recommend Quantas!

I can´t recommend Quantas!

It took them nearly three weeks + a reminder to answere to my email request.
I just got back an amount for the shipping per motorcycle. No details about, how the price was calculated or which services are included. No answere to the question about the procedure.

Overall very poor compared to a dozend other replys from air- and sea freighters.

The price for Quantas was bad, too: 2,400 NZD + costs in AUS per bike.
For the same bike messures Greenfright sent an offer of 1,626 NZD + costs in AUS.
On the negative side I have to say, that the email conversation with Steve Spector (Greenfright) wasn´t very professional at times. But at least he put up a proper offer.

Third offer (and quickest one) was by Air New Zealand: 3.309 NZD per bike.

If you have time to go by ship try this: Kathy Speck (Mondiale). Very professional + answeres all questions in time and to my full satisfaction.
The offer was by far the cheapest!
katie.speck [at] mondiale.co.nz

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Or go to Burnhard Cargo,is near from the Airport in Auckland, i do now my fligth to Melbourne with this Company. Have Crate the Bike today and the Crate was 2.2qm and 282 kg. the coast it will be 1400 NZD to Fligth and the bike it will be on thurstay in Melbourne.

I let you now how much i have to pay in Melbourne to bring out the Bike from the custom and the AQIS.

Rgds

Gubi

I look for a place in Melbourne that i can store my crate, anybody have some idee ???? i am less on money ;-)
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