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Old 27 Apr 2013
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VLADIVOSTK-Mongolia-Europe June 2013

This thread is for riders going west from Vladivostok around early June 2013. Hopefully we can exchange information about bike shipping,ferry schedules,costs,routes,and equipment.
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Hi Doug,

We are pleased to offer our competitive rate as below and advise me if you have any concern or question.

Shipment 1: From Vancouver to Incheon airport, South Korea only – CAD1,625.00 all in
Based on chargeable weight 320.00kg, 76”X44”X34”

Draining of gas tank – CAD75.00
Crating a motorcycle – CAD350.00
Air Freight – CAD1,200.00

Transit time: 3 to 4 days
I was told I could crate the bike myself & drain the tank.
There will also be terminal handling fee, customs clearance and exam fees


Shipping from Sokcho,S. Korea to Zarubino,Russia. Stena Daea Line started service March 19.The ferry is named New Blue Ocean.This is the ferry I want to use.Seouljoe of HU says half a day to go through customs in Zarubino vs 3-4 days in Vlad.Zarubino is about 2 hours south of Vlad. and 25 miles north of N.Korea.The below info is what I got from Wendy Choi:

Dear Doug Apr.18.2013 Good day
Yes You can catch Stena Ferry at Sokcho Port with your bike.
The fee for bike(over500cc), it is USD500 + Some other charge like documents fee, cfs, tec(i guess it is approx usd100)
and passenger fee(abt usd200)
You can pay to Stena Ferry directly.
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I haven't found a site in English I can get a schedule.
The only link I found on the new ferry is below:
Shanghai Harvest International Logistics Co., Ltd
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Siberia Mongolia Russia and back home

Hello Doug,

I am Michael from Austria and it seems as if we are intending to do the same trip: Vladivostok, Chabarowsk, and then further on to Mongolia. I should be there in the beginning of June. I am starting with Japan first and will leave Austria tomorrow.
Would be good to stay in touch, eventually we could also do some of the roads together. I am driving an Honda Africa Twin. I have already travelled whole NOrth and South America, went from here to India, Pakistan and last year I did Asia and Australia. This year I have Japan, Siberia, Mongolia, Khazachstan and Russia on the menu and will then drive back home.

Would be great to stay in touch.
All the best from Michael
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Hello, I'm Louie from New Zealand
I will arrive in Vladivostok on 2nd of June. Staying at "Optimum Hostel"
My bike should be waiting for me at the port.
I wont go to Mongolia.
I'm staying in Russia, heading west to Vladikavkaz (Ossetia) then Donetsk and Khakiv (Ukraine) Then back to Vladivostok. But there is a chance I'll get drunk the first night there and marry a stripper, then crash the bike on the second day. Riding in Russia is very enjoyable. There's loads of cafes with cheap excellent quality food.
The style of driving I can describe it as ... Aggressive and very fast mixed with awareness and courtesy. Its ok to have a bit of fun too. A burnout in front of cops will attract a crowd and applause and is not illegal. Unlike here in NZ people drive like scared rabbits, are over cautious and slow, as our police force has made persecuting motorists its top priority.
I hope everybody is using Yuri Melnikov Links Ltd, if they are receiving freight.
My trip prep ? ... Well last time I brought a ton of stuff I didn't need, so this time I have left the pannier bags at home. Just a top box and another small bag is all I will need.
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Hello, I'm Louie from New Zealand
I will arrive in Vladivostok on 2nd of June. Staying at "Optimum Hostel"
My bike should be waiting for me at the port.
I wont go to Mongolia.
I'm staying in Russia, heading west to Vladikavkaz (Ossetia) then Donetsk and Akiva (Ukraine) Then back to Vladivostok. But there is a chance I'll get drunk the first night there and marry a stripper, then crash the bike on the second day. Riding in Russia is very enjoyable. There's loads of cafes with cheap excellent quality food.
The style of driving I can describe it as ... Aggressive and very fast mixed with awareness and courtesy. Its ok to have a bit of fun too. A burnout in front of cops will attract a crowd and applause and is not illegal. Unlike here in NZ people drive like scared rabbits, are over cautious and slow, as our police force has made persecuting motorists its top priority.
I hope everybody is using Yuri Melnikov Links Ltd, if they are receiving freight.
My trip prep ? ... Well last time I brought a ton of stuff I didn't need, so this time I have left the pannier bags at home. Just a top box and another small bag is all I will need.
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I guess you aren't taking camping gear.Confident you can always get to another town.If you have traveled that route before you would know.How long are you planning to be gone?
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Hello, I'm Louie from New Zealand
I will arrive in Vladivostok on 2nd of June. Staying at "Optimum Hostel"
My bike should be waiting for me at the port.
I wont go to Mongolia.
I'm staying in Russia, heading west to Vladikavkaz (Ossetia) then Donetsk and Khakiv (Ukraine) Then back to Vladivostok. But there is a chance I'll get drunk the first night there and marry a stripper, then crash the bike on the second day. Riding in Russia is very enjoyable. There's loads of cafes with cheap excellent quality food.
The style of driving I can describe it as ... Aggressive and very fast mixed with awareness and courtesy. Its ok to have a bit of fun too. A burnout in front of cops will attract a crowd and applause and is not illegal. Unlike here in NZ people drive like scared rabbits, are over cautious and slow, as our police force has made persecuting motorists its top priority.
I hope everybody is using Yuri Melnikov Links Ltd, if they are receiving freight.
My trip prep ? ... Well last time I brought a ton of stuff I didn't need, so this time I have left the pannier bags at home. Just a top box and another small bag is all I will need.
louienicholson@yahoo.co.nz

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Hi all,

Mike and I (hopefully) leave Halifax, NS, on Thursday. We think we have all the paper work sorted to get the bikes out :-)

We are then heading for Seattle where the is a RoRo that goes to Vlad. It is $880/bike, plus agent fees($290) etc. I am expecting to top out around $1500 total for Vlad.

RoRo - Fesco
Agent - GreenLine Trade

I'll fill in the HUBB trip route info when all done.

We will then hang around the US for a while, fly over to Seoul, hang out there and then fly to Vlad for around June 4th. So may see Loue ? The bikes are due on the 8th, then it is tyres and oil change and hit the road.

We are also missing Mongolia, due to time issues, but heading into Khaz and Uzbek before returning to Europe.

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Hi Bruce, Yes I am taking a tent. I don't want to seem unadventurous but I think its a good decision to skip Mongolia. Its hard enough just doing Russia. Breaking down in the middle of Mongolia is a certainty. Really its a trip on its own requiring extra ordinary, or specific planning.
I see... Halifax NS = Nova Scotia. A New Zealander will think Halifax in Yorkshire.
And I assume you quote $CAD
My freight costs total in $US ... about $1200. funny when the original figure is half that ...but there's all the add-ons
Yes I may see you around that date it will be a pleasure to meet. I don't know if my bike will be early or late. Its supposed to be there on the 30th of May then its a 2 - 4 day battle for my agent to get it released, there's virtually no hope of going through the Russian customs process by one's self.
Keep in touch
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Skip through this lot and thank fate ... you didn't have time for Mongolia

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Hello here is Teo.

Im currently in Japan.
I did already, Europe and west Russia, central asia, all caucasian countries, Iraq,Iran , Pakistan , India Nepal all the south east Asia, Australia, south korea and now in Japan.

From here i dont go to Vladivostock, i will take a ferry from Hokkaido to Sahkalin then go to Vanino and going on the way to europe.

I ship the bike from Australia and on road here in Japan with 550 usd ...i did everything...paperworks,crate and so on .... i will put on the record here on hubb shipping

Now stuck here for license...should solve in few days ...

I never sleep in hotels and i never eat in the restourant as im in low budget

See u on the road guys

Im riding a kawa er5 ..AH AH nothing is impossible DD

ps i don't know if i will have time for Mongolia or not but i met already 2 bikers (one japanese and one Korean) that went there alone with suzuki dr650 ...no problem at all

I think is luck but most important is condiction of bike and style of driving.

I did pamir in a week with no rush with mine and a crazy of road in Georgia took 4 days to do 120km... not easy but possible

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I have a list of 12 riders going west from Vladivostok around early June. I have some other info for some -bike.nationality,countries traveling,app arrival time in Vlad,HU or ADVrider name. If you PM me your email,I will send it to you. I don't know how or if it is possible to send the attachment through PM's.

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I have a list of 12 riders going west from Vladivostok around early June. I have some other info for some -bike.nationality,countries traveling,app arrival time in Vlad,HU or ADVrider name. If you PM me your email,I will send it to you. I don't know how or if it is possible to send the attachment through PM's.

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Doug,

How is your shipping going from Vancouver ? We have just been told our RoRo will be delayed, now leaving Seattle June 4th and arriving Vlad 15th.

So we are revisiting other options, I have sent a rate request to LEI. but am interested in how you are progressing with them.

Now we just have to decide what sights we will see in our spare 2 weeks in North America... dodging snow, rain and tornadoes ;-)
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Doug,

How is your shipping going from Vancouver ? We have just been told our RoRo will be delayed, now leaving Seattle June 4th and arriving Vlad 15th.

So we are revisiting other options, I have sent a rate request to LEI. but am interested in how you are progressing with them.

Now we just have to decide what sights we will see in our spare 2 weeks in North America... dodging snow, rain and tornadoes ;-)
I have not communicated with them since my initial quote (above). I guess I need to update with them soon. I should send a new request to All Cargo Express and LEI.If I do,I'll send you what I get.You will probably get info before I do.

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I have not communicated with them since my initial quote (above). I guess I need to update with them soon. I should send a new request to All Cargo Express and LEI.If I do,I'll send you what I get.You will probably get info before I do.

Doug
Are All Cargo Express doing the crating ? We just had a quote back saying crating will be approx $800/bike and that we should go and see bike dealers in Vancouver too try and get a crate.

Any names we can try ?
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Are All Cargo Express doing the crating ? We just had a quote back saying crating will be approx $800/bike and that we should go and see bike dealers in Vancouver too try and get a crate.

Any names we can try ?
And has anyone got a link for the Stena ferry ? I can't get a google hit :-(
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Are All Cargo Express doing the crating ? We just had a quote back saying crating will be approx $800/bike and that we should go and see bike dealers in Vancouver too try and get a crate.

Any names we can try ?
This is what I got from them yesterday:
Hi Doug,

We are pleased to offer our competitive rate as below and advise me if you have any concern or question.

Air shipment from Vancouver to Incheon airport, South Korea only – CAD2,280.00 all in
Based on chargeable weight 370.00kg, 84" x 44" x 36"

Draining of gas tank – CAD75.00
Crating a motorcycle – CAD350.00
Handling fee – CAD55.00
Air Freight – CAD1,800.00

Transit time: 3 to 4 days

Above rate excludes:

- Destination terminal handling
- Destination duties, and taxes
- Delays due to weather/road condition
- Storage-in-transit, demurrage, and detention (if any)
- Customs examination/inspection (if any)
- Insurance – available upon your request.

All Risks Insurance can be offered @ 2.5% of C & F value + 10%, minimum $ 75.00, excludes mechanical/electrical derangement, subject to 1.0% deductible amount, minimum $ 500.00 each claim.

** Motorcycle needs to be drop it at AllCargo Express Inc. in Richmond, BC
** Validity of quote: 30 days, subject to change with or without notice

Young sil Kim
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200 - 2251 No.5 Rd.
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Fax: 604 232-4544

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This is what I got from them yesterday:
Hi Doug,

We are pleased to offer our competitive rate as below and advise me if you have any concern or question.

Air shipment from Vancouver to Incheon airport, South Korea only – CAD2,280.00 all in
Based on chargeable weight 370.00kg, 84" x 44" x 36"

Draining of gas tank – CAD75.00
Crating a motorcycle – CAD350.00
Handling fee – CAD55.00
Air Freight – CAD1,800.00

Transit time: 3 to 4 days

Above rate excludes:

- Destination terminal handling
- Destination duties, and taxes
- Delays due to weather/road condition
- Storage-in-transit, demurrage, and detention (if any)
- Customs examination/inspection (if any)
- Insurance – available upon your request.

All Risks Insurance can be offered @ 2.5% of C & F value + 10%, minimum $ 75.00, excludes mechanical/electrical derangement, subject to 1.0% deductible amount, minimum $ 500.00 each claim.

** Motorcycle needs to be drop it at AllCargo Express Inc. in Richmond, BC
** Validity of quote: 30 days, subject to change with or without notice

Young sil Kim
Import/Export Coordinator/Inside Sales

200 - 2251 No.5 Rd.
Richmond, BC
V6X 2S8
Tel: 604 606-0633
Fax: 604 232-4544

e-mail: young@allcargoexpress.com
Ah, I see that you have gone through All Cargo Express, we went straight to LEI. They have quoted us as Dangerous Goods, so no tank drain. And 2 bikes as $3100 CAD to Incheon. Just the crating to do. Strange the price difference.

I'll PM you our full quote to save clogging up the thread
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