Hi All,

Im thinking of getting something like the Euromot 200cc bike for a six month to one year trip around South America.

Just after peoples feedback if theyve had good success with this bike, or if they know of particular problems etc. Even if you recall seeing someone who was doign the same thing and was praising the bike.

My bike knowledge within south america is pretty limited so any help would be great.

Cheers,
Eddie.

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Me and my suzuki EN125 will be travelling 20'000km through South America - who said life was dull!!!!!

Chileautos: Euromot GXT 200 2010 $850.000

just a link to the eruomot gxt for reference.

Cheers. Edd.

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Me and my suzuki EN125 will be travelling 20'000km through South America - who said life was dull!!!!!

Hi Eddie,

Not sure if this reply comes too late for you, but thought I'd post anyway. I bought one of these in Chile this spring and rode it up to colombia - about 10,000 km in total, including a lot of off-road in bolivia and peru that was quite hard on the bike. Here's my mini-review:

- Speed/power - it was a worry for me when i bought it as it's only 200cc. It was fine. With a larger front sprocket (16 tooth vs 15 standard) it would cruise happily at 110km/h, i got it up to 140km/h testing the top speed on a slight downhill. Could feel a bit underpowered going uphill. It was fine in the andes, i got up to 4500m altitude, just needed to adjust the idle speed a bit to keep it running

- reliability. Good and bad. In the 10000k I had it, nothing serious went wrong, but lots of little things. Build quality not as good as a japanese bike. Lots of spokes broke off-road (I think i got through about 20) - keep some spares. Rev counter cable broke. Fuel tap got gummed up (maybe just due to poor quality petrol though). Indicator relay broke. Dipped beam headlamp worked intermittently the whole time. Battery died. Engine developed a slight oil leak (turned out to be oil filter gasket hadn't been replaced when serviced). So nothing terminal or even difficult to fix, but lots of niggles.

- economy - brilliant. 35 km / litre of petrol (100mpg UK). I didn't spend much on consumable either - oil change only needs a litre of oil, chain and tyres are small and therefore cheap. The tank is 10 litres so 300km range - I had a 10L jerry can on the back which gave me 6-700km total

- comfort - not bad. Seat nice and soft but a bit narrow. The bike is physically a little bit too small for me (i'm 6 foot) but I was still happy riding all day

- off-road ability - pretty good, as it's so light. could get through pretty much anything i tried. Only failed to get through deep sand, it didn't have enough power to push its way out. And the other limit was breaking spokes on bumpy stuff, see above.

- spares availability - For bike-specific parts, it was great in chile, good in colombia. Very little in peru or bolivia - I needed oil filter, new sprockets and was very difficult to find something that fitted. Recommend carrying spares. Things like spokes, inner tubes and tyres you'll find even in the smallest villages.

- other stuff. Gear indicator is a nice touch. Rear luggage rack is standard, I just tied my rucksack to it. Headlamp just about good enough for night riding. Nice having electric and kick start.

Verdict - I'd get one again for the 3 month trip I did. If going for a year and I had the budget I'd think about getting a 'proper' bike - but it would be a close call

all the best
Nick

I've been riding this bike for 14.000 km so far in South America.

The lousy spokes is a known issue. Some opt for changing all the spokes for Japanese ones. I've broke only one so far, but I always make sure they are tight before I ride and I ride mostly, but certainly not entirely, asphalt.

I have the same problem with the fuel tap. No idea how it happened.

I have no oil leaks whatsoever and I've changed oil filters 4 times. One by the dealer and 3 times myself. I've never changed the gaskets, I'm using the original ones. The service manual just says the gaskets should be oiled before screwing in the oil filter cover to seal it off. Did someone leave you without a gasket at all? No wonder why it was leaking!

Finding spare parts is not a problem in Chile. In Argentina the bike is sold under the Beta Motor brand and I've heard they have pretty much any part in stock. In Brazil it is sold as Sundown while in Paraguay it is the Genesis, and it seems only the distributor in Asuncion may have parts (I was sent there by the distributors from other cities, who had no parts whatsoever available)

Also remember the engine is an exact copy of the Suzuki DR-200. You can find parts through Suzuki's distribution network.

The oil filter is the same as the one for the Suzuki GN/EN 125 which can be found easily at Suzuki shops or ask for the Mann MH-51. Finding oil filters, any of them, in small towns in South America isn't easy. I've found them fairly easily in larger cities. Do carry a spare if you're not going to hit a big city in a while.

I'm still on the original transmission and tyres... My chain still has thousands of km ahead. I'm changing the tyres very soon, even though they are still ok.

Any idea what it's called in Bolivia? I don't think I've ever seen one here.

Also how much weight were you guys carrying?

I dunno how it's called in Bolivia or even if they sell it there. As for weight, I guess I'm carrying around 120kg including myself.

I am interested by that bike for a cheap option for my journey,
Where do they sell the euromot new in Chile?
How much does it cost?
Where can I get the service manual

Hola Zibou,

Euromot GXT200 is available in Santiago, Chile at:

Chileautos: Euromot GXT 200 NUEVA 0 KM 2011 $999.000

Zigeuner53 bought his Euromot GXT 200 in Chile. Scroll down towards the bottom of the thread for Chile buying info at:

Qingqi/Euromot/Genesis - DR200 copies - ADVrider

Cost is around 2000 dollars new.

Service manual is online at Chinariders at:

ChinaRiders.net - Your online China Bike community

The service manual is in Portuguese for the Sundowner, which is what the Euromot GXT200 is called in Brazil.

Best,
John Downs

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South America and back on a 250 Super Sherpa Minimalist Adventure http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=831076

Hi guys
Might be a Pioneer in Bolivia if they have them...they go by lots of different names.
spokes....I din't have too many problems but a friend has had to replace a few, he's got maybe 15k on his alt least they are cheap and labor as well
I changed my oil at the 1st 100k on recommendation from a dealer....and there was lots of fine metal in it...after that it wasw ok
handlebar vibration is an issue at long high speed runs
bike made it to 5k meters ok loaded down too

zig

what is the top speed on highway?
what is your regular crusing speed?
Does it handle ok in sand when loaded (enough power)?
Did you try ridding 2 up?

Hey, if this is the same as the DR200 then perhaps it has the same carburettor, which means you could use the keintech mods and get some more horsepower out of it?

There's also an FMF exhaust available for it (though that kinda beats the point of saving money by buying a china bike).

The carburettors of the two bikes are different.

I sold the bike after 27000km of travelling. Time to update this thread.

Overall the bike worked fine. Nothing serious went wrong and the bike proved powerful enough to take me anywhere I wanted to go. It carried me, girl and luggage for two with only one issue: The frame slightly bent from the luggage weight.

I rode it through the desert, in summer, two up for over 1000 km and it never overheated.

I rode it in Patagonian wind and rain and it kept going.

Crossed the Andes with girl and luggage for two without issues. It was a bit slow, but it took us there.

Rode it in sand, in dirt, in loose gravel two-up and everything went fine.

That being said suspension is good enough for solo riding but weak for two. Towards the end I had to give a good maintenance to the rear suspension and the front one will need an overhaul soon.

Not recommended for riding with a passenger.

The rear wheel spokes broke fairly often. In total I replaced over a dozen of them. I would recommend any new buyers to replace from the beginning all the spokes of the rear wheel for better quality ones. Finding spares was usually straightforward but a couple of times I failed to find spokes with a width of 3.5mm, 4mm width being more common.

The odometer got stuck and wouldn't count km anymore. My attempt to fix it made things worse and eventually I had to replace the whole panel (cost: about 70 USD,)

Small oil leak at the gear shifting lever. Changing the oil seal seems to have fixed the issue. Total cost about 3 USD.

Sprockets are easy to find in Chile, Brazil and Colombia but hard to find otherwise. The model sold in Argentina under the Beta brand doesn't quite cut it because it's attached to the wheel using four bolts rather than six. If you need to find sprockets that fit ask for those for a Suzuki DR 125, yes I said 125. The engine of the bike is identical to that of the DR 200 but the chain drive isn't.

The front sprocket is also similar to the Suzuki DR 125 but it needs to be flattened with a lathe in order to fit. Easier to buy the original one and carry it for when you need it.

I replaced the rear sprocket for one with a smaller number of teeth and it made a difference. The bike became a bit faster on asphalt without noticeably affecting off road performance.

Chain is rubbish, change it.

Front light is rubbish as well.

Plastics are definitely of poor quality. By the end of the trip there was hardly a plastic part on this bike that wasn't broken, scratched, lost its colour, or has been replaced.

The bike asks for frequent oil changes. The Brazilian manual of the bike recommends changing it every 1500 kms and it truly needs it. The bike really likes semi-synthetic oil and hates mineral. I never tried full synthetic as other people have posted negative issues about using synthetic oil on this bike. I changed the oil every 1500 to 2000 kms.

The bike is very popular in Chile and is widely regarded as the best value for its price range and as the one Chinese bike that doesn't suck.

Overall a good bike. I had a lot of fun with it and consider it a fine choice for people on a tight budget, but if you can afford a Japanese bike get it instead.

Browsing through some Brazilian forums I found someone has compiled the following list of parts of other motorbikes that fit the GXT 200 or Sundown STX, as this bike is known in Brazil.

Note: The Suzuki YES is known as the Suzuki EN 125 or GS 125 in the Spanish speaking parts of South America. Suzuki GN 125 is the same bike with different aesthetics.