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Round The World: October/December 2013

Round The World: October/December 2013
With my Honda Gold Wing 1500 of 1998 (km 749.000).
Start 10 october 2013.
Routes planned (going east):
5 continents - 34.000 km - 2 months


From Lecce (Italy) to Katmandu:
1) Italy
2) Slovenia
3) Croatia
4) Serbia
5) Bulgaria
6) Turkey
7) Iran
8) Pakistan
9) India
10) Nepal
Airplane from Kathmandu (Nepal) to Bangkok (Thailand)
From Bangkok and Singapore
11) Thailand
12) Malaysia
Airplane from Kuala Lumpur to Perth
Australia
13) Australia
Airplane from Sydney to Santiago (Chile)
From Santiago to Brazil
14) Chile
15) Argentina
16) Uruguay
Argentine
17) Paraguay
18 Brazil
Airplane from Brazil to Dakar (Senegal)
From Dakar to Gibraltar
19) Senegal
20) Mauritania
21) Western Sahara
22) Morocco
Ferry Strait of Gibraltar
From Gibraltar to Lecce (Italy)
23) Spain
24) France
Italy
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Here are the maps. Click on the maps and it will open Google Maps.
From Lecce to Kathmandu (Nepal), 10,059 km, from 10.10.2013 to 23.10, day 14.

0) Start. 10.10.2013 from Lecce, km 0, km 0 Total
1) Thursday 10, Materija (Slo), 1134 km, 1134
2) 11, Pirot (Ser), km 914, 2048
3) 12, Gerede (Tur), km 984, 3032


from Gerede (Tur) to
4) 13, Erzurum, km 914, 3946
5) 14, Maku (Iran), km 357, 4303
6) 15, Karaj, near Tehran, km 830, 5133
7) 16, Rafsanjan, km 912, 6045
8) 17, Iran-Pakistan border, km 708, 6753


from Iran-Pakistan border to
9) 18, Quetta (Pak), km 638, 7391
10) 19, Multan, 632 km, 8023
11) 20, Amritsar (India), km 399, 8422
12) 21, Agra, 638 km, 9060


da Agra (India) to
13) 22, Gorakhpur, km 592, 9.652
14) 23, Katmandu (Nepal), km 403, 10.055
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15, 16, 17) (24, 25, 26) plane from Kathmandu (Nepal) to Bangkok (Thailand), 2215 km
from Bangkok (Thailand) to
18) 27, Chumphon, km 465, 10520
19) 28, George Town (Malaysia), km 686, 11206
20) 29, Kuala Lumpur, km 357, 11563
21, 22, 23 (october 30, 31, november 1) plane from Kuala Lumpur to Perth (Australia), 4190 km
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CANCELLED THE TRIP IN INDONESIA
from Dumai (Indonesia)
21) 30, Padang, km 529, 12225
22) 31, Bengkulu, km 563, 12788
23) 1 november, Bakau (Indon. South Sumatra), km 665, 13453
ferry Sumatra-Java, 30 km
24) 2, Semarang (Java Indon.), km 592, 14045
ferry Java-Bali, 5 km
25) 3, Denpasar (Bali Indon.), km 718, 14763
26, 27, 28) (lu.4, ma.5, me.6) plane to Darwin (Australia), 1760 km
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from Perth to
24) november 2, western Australia, km 1.257, 12820
25) 3, Derby, km 1.244, 14064
26) 4, Kununurra, km 897, 14961
27) 5, Darwin, km 831, 15792
28) 6, Kakadu National Park, km 0
29) 7, Three Ways, km 957, 16970
30) 8, Ayers Rock / Uluri, km 995, 17983
31) 9, Port Augusta, 1284 km, 19267
32) 10, Melbourne, 1034 km, 20304 (tire change)
33) 11, Sydney, 1029 km, 21337
34, 35, 36, 37) (12, 13, 14, 15) plane to Santiago (Chile), 11,360 km


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from Santiago (Chile)
38) 16, Mercedes (Argentina), km 705, 22402
39) 17, Buenos Aires, km 699, 22741
40) 18, Posadas (Paraguay), 1145 km, 23886
41) 19, Curitiba (Brazil), km 929, 24815
42) 20, Rio de Janeiro, km 945, 25760
43, 44, 45, 46) (21, 22, 23, 24) plane to Dakar (Senegal), 5046 km
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From Dakar to
47) 25, Nouakchott (Mauritania), km 518, 26278
48) 26, Dakhla (Western Sahara.), Km 817, 27095
49) 27, El Ayun, km 530, 27625
50) 28, Essaoiura (Morocco), km 805, 28430
51) 29, Tangier, km 698, 29128
ferry to Tarifa (Spain), 30 km
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from Tarifa to
52) 30, Tarragona, 1065 km, 30193
53) 1 december 2012, Carrara (Italy), 1051 km, 31244
54) Monday 2 decembre 2013, Lecce (Italy), km 973, 32217 km


In summary, they are, on paper, to travel 32,217 kilometers in 54 days.
In doing so, I figured my rhythm, "normal", plus a little time to visit something.
I figured 3 days for flights for those short and 4 long (shipping, packaging and bureaucracy).
Applying a percentage of 10% safety, the km could become the expected 35,000 and days projected 60.
I ask myself the limit to complete the ride in 80 days, but I think it reasonable to be able to finish in 60.
So starting October 10, arrival between December 2 (54 days), on 8 December (60 days) and 28 December (80 days).
During the trip I 'll change tires (in Australia, at 20,000 km) and 3 oil change, including filter (10,000, 20,000, 30,000). Otherwise the bike, if all goes well, you should not need.
The km is not running should be:
1 ferry: km 30
4 airplanes: 2,215 +4,190 +11,360 +5,046 = 22,811

I'm beginning to contact the shippers for journeys by air: this is my main concern.
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Getting from Malaysia to Indonesia is probably one of the problems. If you're extremely lucky, there's a ferry. But most likely there isn't. Even if there is, next month there may not be. It depends.

Also shipping from Brazil to Senegal might turn out problematic. Haven't done that one myself, though, so just guessing.

I think your road distance calculations are a bit on the short side. I started from Germany, then mostly had your route from Turkey to northern India (I shipped Chennai-Bangkok).. but when I reached Bali, I'd covered over 25000 road kms, and I did not make a whole lot of detours, except going through South India.

I spent 6 months until Sydney (my trip was almost exactly 34000 kms, but in Oz we did make a few detours)

...... but to continue & make a RTW of it in just TWO months (if that really is your plan??) is just way too short for me. I don't say that it is definitely impossible, but you will really need absolutely everything to click in place 100%, especially the shippings. Still you are gonna miss out on a whole lot due to the hurry. Personally I'd find more time, or cut the trip shorter (or maybe think about doing it in sections?)

ps. looking at your plan, I can quarantee you that those 400-600 kms PER DAY in places like India & Indonesia are gonna be tough. It is NOT like riding in Europe, it is constant survival, every second on the road, and the roads are congested beyond belief, so it will sap your energy unbelievably. You can't have very high average speeds, it's just impossible. Also I would not ride there very tired, it's dangerous enough without that!
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thanks pecha72. I'm used to these rhythms, last year Italy-Korea-Japan and back, through Siberia (by land) in less than 2 months (see my site http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2011-06...ne/indice.html ), first Italian-Mongolia and back in 40 days across the street silk (also you can see on the site http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2009-06...ia/indice.html ).
Not a problem get to the airport a day or a week later, because I will obtain agreement with shippers for flights to date "open." If the flight is, I take it.
From the information that I have, air or ferry connections are there in those traits. However, I'm checking. About time, I have a job and a family trip during the holidays. And I like to travel fast.
will be a maximum of 80 days.
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Ok, we are different, I like to travel slower, and honestly I would get too much stress from that plan. But maybe you are able to pull it off. And please do report here, how it worked out for you!
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Ok pecha72.
Of course, I will make a report after the trip ... hoping to complete it!
In fact, I do not underestimate the difficulties: I never said (not even with my friends in Italy), which is easy, and if I say this, I would be superficial.
It is however exciting, at least for me, this preparation, which must be as methodical and accurate. The success of a trip of this kind, in my opinion, depends to a half of preparation.
P.S. We are all (persons) different.
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I'm having big problems to find the flights over the three oceans (Indian, Pacific, Atlantic), so far I've only found the flight on inaccessible Burma.
To be more precise, I can not even find just a forwarder to take care of those traits: those on the HU do not exist or do not respond.
But do not give up!
Not to go OT here, I will open soon a topic for the air routes of which I speak, in the appropriate section.
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thanks pecha72. I'm used to these rhythms, last year Italy-Korea-Japan and back, through Siberia (by land) in less than 2 months

I think there are at least 3 key differences between your trip to Japan and this RTW-plan:

- the number of possibly complicated border crossings outside Europe

- the need to use freight several times to get your bike transported across the seas

- travelling more north to south and vice versa, therefore crossing many more climate zones in both hemispheres.. and when you´re doing this on a very tight schedule, avoiding extreme weather, and other hardships that it might bring, will be much harder.
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I think there are at least 3 key differences between your trip to Japan and this RTW-plan:

- the number of possibly complicated border crossings outside Europe

- the need to use freight several times to get your bike transported across the seas

- travelling more north to south and vice versa, therefore crossing many more climate zones in both hemispheres.. and when you´re doing this on a very tight schedule, avoiding extreme weather, and other hardships that it might bring, will be much harder.
1) Outside of Europe will cross 17 countries. In my travels in Mongolia (40 days) http://www.gold-wing.it/moto/2009-06...ia/indice.html I crossed (outside Europe) 8 states, including those of the Way Silk (Iran, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan ...) which certainly does not have borders easy.
2) The different means of transport (in my journey 4 ferries uncomplicated and 4 planes) are inevitable in a RTW: it is impossible to make a RTW without taking at least two planes (or ships, who has the time) on the oceans, the air are 3 if you want to cross all 5 continents, and also Australia, having to cross the Indian Ocean). Burma is not a problem: I already have agreements with the shipper.
It 's true that this is a complication, but with careful planning you can solve. I do not deny that it is more complex, but this is the challenge. Otherwise it was easy.
3) The period chosen allows me to avoid extreme conditions: the end of October the monsoons are over in India; find rains in Indonesia but not the end of the world (the worst rain in my life I found 2 km from my house in Italy, and was no better than a monsoon), I come to Australia and South America in the late spring, and in good weather, and above all, any delay after the initial phase will mean that I'll be there in the second part of the journey with condiizoni better weather, because the southern hemisphere will go towards the summer.

In conclusion, it is difficult, challenging, but I know I can do it, I do not stop for a little 'water temperature or 40 °, but only a breakdown or accident beyond repair, but these risks I have already addressed in my previous trips.
The real problem is finding the planes, and this is what I'm trying to solve: now, a year before, when I get there, it would be too late.
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