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China Agents (Newland & Caravan Cafe)

Hi guys,

Just tried contacting Caravan Cafe. No answer for weeks – a friend of mine who traveled through Kashgar recently told me they were closed by the local authorities. All business was diverted to Newland Travel.

So I tried newlandtravel.net and only found Chinese writing (which I can't read), but no contact details or whatsoever.

Has anyone got any information on what's going on? Is Newland closed as well now? Has anyone got links to a reliable operator in Kashgar? I'd like to organise a 5-day trip through China to connect the Stans with the Karakorum Highway.

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Taher at Newland Travel

Caravan Cafe was closed when I was there in June.

I got an email from Taher on 06/01/2008 with the following contact info:

karakarom Travel guide &Adventure Travel Kashgar New land

Tel:+86 13279717711

fax:+86 998 2535277

e-mail: taherbasecamp@gmail.com
taherbasecamp@hotmail.com
Skype:taherbasecamp366

ICQ :458 808 900

Hope that helps Bjorn.

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Hi,

thanks Redboots for that info.
Bjorn, please let us know how you get on as i am planning a similar trip from KKH through to Stans during first week of July '08.

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Thanks Redboots,

Who is Taher? Was he associated with Newland Travel, or maybe Caravan Cafe?
I'm a bit nervous about my travel plans – Newland & Caravan had a good reputation which they probably wanted to keep up. Any new & unproven agents might not be that reliable, and I don't want to pay months in advance & turn up on the border just to find there's no guide...
Southern Pakistan & Baluchistan (the alternative of going through the Stans & China) – I'm not too keen on that, given the current situation in Pakistan. My workmate is from Kashmir/Pakistan. He reckons KKH & Islamabad are fine, but not the South.

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Hi Bjorn,
Taher is a Vice Director of Kashgar New Land International Travel.

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Who is Taher? Was he associated with Newland Travel, or maybe Caravan Cafe?
I think Taher is 100% solid. He IS New Land Travel. Another guy used him in 2006, (I think), name of Roel Hendrickx. You can find Roel on HU if you want another opinion, BUT, he traveled FROM China after he bought a combination there.

Caravan Cafe is defunked.

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I had a mail from Taher today and he was very apologetic about taking three days to reply to my previous mail. Personally I reckon three days is excellent.

Mind you the quote was eye-watering, I'm now working on what I can cut out.
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hi there

been there in august 2007. travelled with Taher as well. he told me caravan cafe was closed. he's is very serious and a good partner. but make sure you get a good price. don't hesitate to haggle.

other agents to try:

abdulwahab: abdultour(at)yahoo.co or abdulcafe(at)gmail.com
john: John's Information Service & Caf¨¦ On The Silk Road

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I was in Kashgar last week and this guy was really helpful - and spoke excellent English: Ali (silkroadguide@hotmail.com) who works from an office in the lobby of the Chinibagh Hotel. Tel: 00 86 (0)998 2980770

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tour operator not any one do in china

hello
I had been stay in china a couple years ,tour operator not any one can..

I used before Taher's service he is really good partner and skillfull,

Jon,cafe and Abdul , I met them in kashgar last summer also ,they often ask permits and arrangements from Taher . applying permit not easy in china .Like taher travel service International Travel ,they have permission to arragements and offering service any western countrys , and only travel service they have permission doemstic chinese tourist. thats my studies in china . any request and informations needs dont hesitate contact under permitted agency ..

taher almost better guy than others

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Hello,

I crossed from Ikesham Pass (Kyrg) to the Kunjarab Pass (Pak) and used a chap called Wayne - ex Caravan Cafe. I would recommend him strongly, we were met at the border, all paperwork was done and he speaks good English.

He charged $US1200 to complete all formalities. He can be contacted at xistinfo@yahoo.com.cn or 0086 13659930259.

Please contact me if you have any problems.

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Caravan Cafe...lives on

Hi. Steve here. I used to be at the Caravan Cafe in Kashgar. Some of my old correspondence is still on the HUBB. I took a break to see my kids off to university. Now, I'm back and work for Crown Inn, a newly opened hotel in Tashkorgan and with an office in Kashgar. If you need up-to-date info, you can reach me at: steve@crowninntashkorgan.com .
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I contacted Diethelm Travel (Beijing, Kunming) via recommendations in the forum re a trip from Yunnan thru Tibet, Sinkiang and Inner Mongolia in 2010 and so far they seem responsive/responsible. No $$ has changed hands.

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Hi there , travel cross Tibet impossible to get a permit before september.
on my side Xinjiang almost smooth and no problem around border crossing .

Beijing During Olypic games hotels are very expensive and early reservations .

thanks my all friends support , any request and information needs please feel free contact to me

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Hi there , travel cross Tibet impossible to get a permit before september.
on my side Xinjiang almost smooth and no problem around border crossing .

Beijing During Olypic games hotels are very expensive and early reservations .

thanks my all friends support , any request and information needs please feel free contact to me

Taher
hi my bike is actually in mongolia and i want to crosschina to india in july can you help me??
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