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seouljoe 20 Apr 2012 08:23

Osmand
 
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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 376079)
There's some more reference to Android software within the Morocco forum.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-morocco-62915

While some of this has been mentioned in here before (OsmAnd), I think this one is new here:-
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How many more apps can there be, and which are going to dominate this market??

Dave ,
OSMAND free version, you can download 8 maps. Fee based for USD 5 unlimited.
Very good maps ,, clear in detail and numerous preloaded POIs (point of interests) However,,, after trying both free and fee version ,,I am finding that it hangs up time to time and loading of map is very slow. Also the menu ,, I found was primitive at best. Last kicker ,, frequesnt I/O Error, while downloading the map.

GPSmapp ,, you have to cache tons of Gogle maps, in order for it to work offline.. found it too slow and boring. Yes it is free ,,

There are many other APPs,,,
Some good reports here ,, though a bit dated.
Android Sat Nav Apps

Who will dominate?
The one being used by industries...

Sygic's clients.
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seouljoe 5 May 2012 00:09

Sam Sung Galaxy S3
 
Not much of an improvement from S2.
Just heavier, same 8MP camera. Improved processor speed. For my purpose,, do not see a need to change for now.

tmotten 8 May 2012 01:06

I disagree. I'd be all over that.

seouljoe 9 May 2012 23:54

S3
 
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Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 378207)
I disagree. I'd be all over that.

Let us know ,, your findings. I do like the wi-fi charging feature.

tmotten 10 May 2012 03:15

I'm still on my contract, so will have to sit that out first. Nothing wrong with my S2 for the moment. Loving the DLNA stuff that's out now. Torrent downloading is awesome. Just found that as well.

Walkabout 31 May 2012 10:43

Waterproofing, or water resistance
 
This new product had some publicity on a UK TV show recently.
Currently it is available only in the USA, having been developed there, but if it is as good as it claims to be, then I can see a worldwide market.

Liquipel in Action

No pricing was mentioned in the TV report.
They tested the product by exposing a smartphone treated with this stuff to saltwater spray generated by a powerboat.


It would also be applicable for waterproofing "car type" GPS units that currently have no such capability (+ any cables that feed power to a smartphone/ GPS?)

seouljoe 14 Jun 2012 21:29

Profit
 
When this thread started,, I called GRMN on Nasdaq a short ,, 48.40 a share then. Today it closed 37.2, while the market rallied 2%.
Exception of few products for die hards,, I feel Garmin will lose more market share to the smart phones and apps, on daily basis.

Host of new maps,, Apple got rid of Google maps , coming out with their own,, also look for the new V map ,, complete 3d with view of interiors.
Garmin is a toast.

seouljoe 16 Jul 2012 21:40

I killed my garmins at Omsk.. Stompef on them with my boots...threw them away in rubbish.. Made a video... My Sam Sung S2 using Sygic 98 percent accuracy. Locus pro also sucked..
Got caught in a thunder storm coming over the Urals... S2 under Ram mount box.not a leak. Garmins dud not work at allbith 755t and 265. Even using them as mp3 failed.
GRMN now 38... This stock should be in single digit.

Fern 16 Jul 2012 21:58

wow. This is still rumbling on. :rolleyes2::rolleyes2:

Walkabout 16 Jul 2012 23:14

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Originally Posted by Fern (Post 386098)
wow. This is still rumbling on. :rolleyes2::rolleyes2:

Maybe because it is spreading in utility; the software aspect is certainly under review & consideration outside of this thread:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-morocco-62915

lhendrick 7 Aug 2012 00:47

Just a data point (or 10).

When my Garmin Zumo 550 died after getting wet (!) on this summers Euro trip on my 09 GSA, I used my iPhone 4 with Navigon app and Europe maps loaded until I could get a new GPS days later. I had the iPhone mounted in a RAM ball mount on handlebars and ran power to it from my tank bag electrics. It was in a non-protective mount, so it went in the mapcase when rain threatened. I received bluetooth voice guidance to my helmet headset (in addition to all the iphone stuff like phone calls and music,etc). As a side benefit, I had live weather radar maps running some of the time to avoid storms. I navigated safely from Aix-en-Provence to Andorra (Spain) where I found a deal on a Zumo 660 to replace the 550.

As to navigation accuracy I would say it performed as well as the Zumo, both had map data/routing frustrations occasionally, but overall both work. BTW, Navigon is now owned by Garmin.

I've had the 550 refurb'd, and cannot decide whether to sell the whole kit, or keep it as a spare, or leave it on the GSA that I leave at Stefan Knopfs place in Heidelberg.

All in all, a great backup system to the Zumo which has now needed two refurbishments at $150US each because of water induced electrical issues. Dedicated units are not all they are cracked up to be, and while the iPhone is not a foolproof solution for full time navigation, it sure beats the hell out of going back to paper or being lost.

I'll certainly bring the iPhone 4 back to Europe for my next ride installment, especially now that I have had it long enough to unlock from the AT&T contract and use it with Euro SIMS I can buy as I travel for more reasonable calling while traveling. :mchappy:

Threewheelbonnie 7 Aug 2012 17:06

3 days into Samsung Galaxy Y ownership and I'm impressed (especially considering I am one of those people who said his old phone was fine as all he did was text and make the odd call and laugh at those who had to charge up more than once a week :blushing: ). The GPS works well enough, the camera is doing it's job as an aid to my awful memory for minor/useful stuff and I'm loving the ability to just shuffle things about via the house/office/coffee place wifi, bluetooth and the phone company's web. The battery life seems OK as I've followed the tips and learned how to turn off the 3G etc. when not using them.

I don't think this will replace my TomTom unit, but the next phone probably will as this one is a first class back up and probably close to usable as is.

One question to fellow users, have you rigged a USB charger socket onto the bike or are you using Cigar lighter/DIN-USB adapters? Anyone had a USB survive a northern winter?

Cheers

Andy

seouljoe 8 Aug 2012 07:32

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One question to fellow users, have you rigged a USB charger socket onto the bike or are you using Cigar lighter/DIN-USB adapters? Anyone had a USB survive a northern winter?

Cheers

Andy[/QUOTE]

Andy ,,, get a lighter jack or make a direct connect to the battery with a fuse. Not a problem. When you set the phone in a box .. make sure to have a padding so the USB connection does not move too much.
Also having a Ram mount waterproof box on the handle bar with SSG2 inside ,, I survived a thunder storm on top of the Ural pass, for two hours.
I have downloaded the world map from Sygic.com for 72 euros and it worked with 99% accuracy. GPS will connect in 30 seconds.
Two POS Garmin I took with me never worked properly. I stomped on them and threw them away.
Also when I go somewhere and park the car ,, I take pics of the spot. Used it to take pics of food ,, while doing Siberia,, next Kafe ,, I just showed the food I want to eat. While I would use it as a GPS ,, MP3 would give me hours of music. When to bed I would listen to audible books I have down loaded,, listen to BBC world services ,, read my newspapers,, download Kakao Talk from APP store for free ,, talk and chat with family and friends for free,, as long as you have wi-fi or data. Download movie tickets do the banking on it,, send money,, use paypal ,, use it as a check out card a the groceries. Put a where is my androd program on it ,, so you can trace the phone in case of misplacing the phone ,, put a graphic phone lock so others can't open the phone.
One caution, when using with the cigar jack ,, turn on the power then off every two hours or it will fry the battery, in hot weather.

rclafton 8 Aug 2012 13:31

Hi ,Just found this thread as its what I have been thinking about for a while

My needs are slightly different as I have a 4 tonne Iveco 4x4 camper so I've been looking at Android tablets to use for navigation (that can be backed up by my phone as my phone also runs android)

Now I've been looking for rugged android tablets, dust and vibration still happen in the cab of a truck , water less of a problem. I want a bigger screen than phones give me as i'm a distance away from the gps.

Interested to hear that seouljoe is using sygic as I've been looking at that and thinking of buying it as a test as it looks quite comprehensive.

Looking for Rugged tablets , there seems to be a range out there just about to be launched from casio and others. I have fond ones from this french company but cannot find if they are sold outside the French speaking world - they do rugged phones and tablets

Mobile Tout Terrain : Mobile Antichoc - Mobile Etanche

I like the idea as I believe memory map also have an android app so good for OS mapping at home.

Cost of teblet is less than 300 Euro

twenty4seven 9 Aug 2012 14:31

Rich

Check out the Nexus 7 which is a tablet sold by Google, the 8GB model is £160 and the spec is outstanding for any price.

Also before buying any App make sure the maps avaliable cover the area you're interested in.

I'm playing with / Testing a Nexus 7 and Welcome To Osmand at the moment for 4x4 travel.

Matt


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