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Walkabout 13 Dec 2015 14:16

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Originally Posted by Vin100 (Post 522478)
The OSN data however has quality problems. It doesn't seem to have house numbers and there are connectivity problems between road segments.

I guess you mean OSM i.e. Open Street Map data which is developing rapidly and is updated regularly.
I access OSM via a variety of phone apps and I find that house numbers can be found on their maps if a sufficient level of zooming in is done with the app.
For instance, "navigator" shows house numbering and has a search function which can find, for example, UK postcodes/addresses.
As per the app name, it can navigate to such addresses in the same way as my garmin Nuvi does, while showing a better detail of mapping along the way - hence I rarely use the Nuvi nowadays.


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Originally Posted by infinityjellyd (Post 522497)
What about the DeLorme InReach (or SPOT) as an alternative? I know cost-wise it is not a cheap alternative, but it adds the function of emergency help, tracking, and (limited) texting with friends/family back home.

Anyone have experience using one vs a GPS or the seemingly preferred phone options discussed above?

If you search in the HUBB there are some threads that talk about the capability of the InReach and the SPOT products but I don't recall anyone has said that they have used either as a navigation aid.
There are certainly smart phone apps that record tracking data - I have experimented with one called MY Trails which does exactly as it's name suggests.

Warin 24 Dec 2015 10:04

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 523823)
I guess you mean OSM i.e. Open Street Map data which is developing rapidly and is updated regularly.
I access OSM via a variety of phone apps and I find that house numbers can be found on their maps if a sufficient level of zooming in is done with the app.

OSM house numbers... depends on unpaid people putting them into OSM. As there are lots of unnamed roads around me .. I am spending some time just putting those names in. I'd rather spend time putting in tracks in the country side, but given the vast number missing I though I'd add a few. Some 300+ in the last week.

So house numbers will depend on where you look .. Glasgow UK does not have many. Sydney Australia does not have many either.

Walkabout 30 Dec 2015 16:11

More hardware competition
 
I've just caught up with the existance of yet another water resistant smart phone, this one coming from Motorola.
UK's Cheapest Moto G (3rd Generation): Where To Buy?

It looks like a great specification at the price (for around the cost of a rear tyre on a sports bike).

Walkabout 23 Apr 2016 22:04

Experiences with Mapfactor Navigator using OSM mapping; an update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 523823)
For instance, "navigator" shows house numbering and has a search function which can find, for example, UK postcodes/addresses.
As per the app name, it can navigate to such addresses in the same way as my garmin Nuvi does, while showing a better detail of mapping along the way - hence I rarely use the Nuvi nowadays.

There are certainly smart phone apps that record tracking data - I have experimented with one called MY Trails which does exactly as it's name suggests.

I've used this for street navigation in a few countries of Europe now.
It has found street addresses in a very accurate manner, in Belgium, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Switzerland and the UK using either full addresses or postcodes.
From a recent update (which are offered regularly) it also has a basic form of lane guidance for major autobahn type highways – what I found more interesting, and even quite useful, were the depictions of the overhead gantry signs on the German autobahns which automatically appear in the app software in good time while approaching the junctions.
Naturally, voice directions are also available.

The app had something of an apparent glitch around the area of Geneva airport; I was disappointed in this at the time and put it down to something or other to do with the density of roads in that area, or the complex international borders – later, when fiddling with the app settings I found that I had it set for a walking mode at about 4 miles per hour (which previously I did not realise existed), so I guess that this is what caused the apparent glitch. In this mode it could use all forms of footpaths as part of the routing algorithm, such as pedestrianised precincts.
It certainly hasn't misbehaved since then and it is now set in a vehicle-use mode.

This led me to look more at the settings of the app, having ignored this aspect for some time.
It's impressively detailed with various modes that can be chosen and the parameters for each mode can be preset in great detail (such as the average speed, types of roads to be used – tolled roads, ferries etc etc).
I can't find a thing this app can't do actually.
The display can also be modified and personalised to suit most things that folk may wish to view – number of satellites in use, time to destination, distance to destination, all that kind of thing.
A compass heading can also be placed at the top of the screen.

I think it also has a route tracking capability but I haven't looked into that aspect, having no specific use for suchlike.

tosko 5 Jul 2016 22:30

Smartphone with maps of Iran, Pakistan, India...
 
Sorry if this matter is courrently solved in the thread, but I don´t find it. I have no smartphone at this moment, I´m going to Thailand from Spain through Europe, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India and Myanmar (Bhirmania). I have a new Tomtom Rider 400, who has all Europe and Turkey maps too, but I look for Tomtom maps from Iran, Pakistan, India, Myanmar and Thailand and there are not available, only Thailand.
Do you know if "here maps" has maps of these countries, and witch kind of smartphone (Nokia, Windows, Samsung...) I need for? I´m not introduced so much in smartphone new phones, I have a simple Nokia with no internet connection but I need to get in contact with the world when I depart from Barcelona. I will stay also about three month in Thailand, and need one cheap smartphone but in the middle range of quality.
Can you help me, please?

tmotten 7 Jul 2016 14:58

I think you'll have a battle on your hands at short notice if you are not familiar with smart phones. Here is for Android and probably iPhone. Personally I recommend Android for travelling. Locus is a very good app for it that's not on iPhone. It allows you to use custom mapping but I think that would be a bit technical in your case. They do have lots of other offline options though.
They had all those countries except Pakistan and Myanmar. Good luck!

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Mark hadley 8 Jul 2016 22:45

I'm still struggling to find an android app that shows friends and family where I am. Delorme does it but I ought to be able to do it from my phone or tablet.

tmotten 8 Jul 2016 23:22

Can't you send a pin by email?

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Threewheelbonnie 9 Jul 2016 10:03

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Originally Posted by Mark hadley (Post 543147)
I'm still struggling to find an android app that shows friends and family where I am. Delorme does it but I ought to be able to do it from my phone or tablet.

"Real time GPS Tracker" free on the app store. Gives you a link you can send anyone you like.

Andy

m37charlie 18 Aug 2016 01:05

A comment to SeoulJoe after a long trip to Siberia and Mongolia, re smartphones vs. Garmin GPS: what good are smartphones when "No Service". They don't remember much when "offline".

Charlie

Donmanolo 18 Aug 2016 10:13

...that's probably why people use apps like 'Here maps' and ' maps.me' that work perfectly well offline using previously downloaded maps..!

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tmotten 18 Aug 2016 15:25

Exactly. I'm finding a lot of the people in the no camp haven't done their homework. If you know a little about digital mapping (GIS) you'll never go back. Phone are powerful, new models are hardly better than 3 generations back (I'm still using an S4), easily available, wireless setup if you need to swap, I can keep going.
Using a phone opens up a vast array of options that I didn't have access too before. You can now truly go off the map. I'm planning donkey tracks that are not on the map in Google earth. With easily available gis software and in app you can download all the free mapping you want. Plus in gis software like global mapper you can download aerial imagery and use scanned paper maps like tracks4Africa, in decently sized files to find population asking your route as a safety net. Really, it's a no brainer and I cannot understand why people still spend a couple of nights at a resort type money on dedicated gps units that offer less not more.

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Threewheelbonnie 18 Aug 2016 16:58

Half the difficulty is the mass of information and geek speak.

I've been playing with a tracker

https://sites.google.com/site/pooratrek/poorasecure

Still no idea what GPS&M/GRP/GPS is but it seems if you text it a fixed sequence it texts one back. The radio signal is called about 12 different acronyms and TLA's doh

Andy

reallybigtruck 19 Aug 2016 14:03

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Originally Posted by m37charlie (Post 545625)
A comment to SeoulJoe after a long trip to Siberia and Mongolia, re smartphones vs. Garmin GPS: what good are smartphones when "No Service". They don't remember much when "offline".

Charlie

Really? Please. "No Service" refers to no cell service, so you can't make a phone call or use 3G/4G/LTE/CDMA connection. It says NOTHING about the phone's capability of receiving a satellite signal.

Do some homework.

backofbeyond 19 Aug 2016 14:59

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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 545660)
Half the difficulty is the mass of information and geek speak.

I've been playing with a tracker

https://sites.google.com/site/pooratrek/poorasecure

Still no idea what GPS&M/GRP/GPS is but it seems if you text it a fixed sequence it texts one back. The radio signal is called about 12 different acronyms and TLA's doh

Andy

Now all you need is for someone to steal the bike so you can test it :rofl:

It's bound to work - after all the man on the website says:

"GPS tracker is easy to use, with just two buttons (although) you must set up the APN of your local GSM network for the SIM card in tracker first ...

As long as you've done that (whatever it is) you'll always know where the joyriders are, right up to the point where they dump it in a canal. :rofl:


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