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OlafofOregon 7 May 2013 21:19

Giant Loop
 
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photo: returning from HU CA Traveler's meeting with my son, who celebrated his 13th birthday there in 2011.

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photo: 2012 HU CA Traveler's meeting.

Dear Horizons Unlimited Riders –

I have had the great fun and privilege of attending the Horizons Unlimited California Traveler's Meeting for the past couple of years, and of all the various events we participate in, this is at the top of my personal list of favorites. My friend Flora Lloyd (Curbsyde Productions) once described the Horizons group as "travelers who ride motorcycles" - emphasizing that the bike is more a means to the ends of exploration and adventure rather than the end in itself. This is definitely my perspective, having backpacked and bicycle toured for years before adding horsepower to the equation.

Now celebrating our fifth year, Giant Loop has evolved from two adventure motorcycle riders with a single saddlebag available only online, into one of the world’s most innovative soft luggage makers. Our 2013 line includes four completely new products, as well as updates across the entire Giant Loop collection.

Riders worldwide energize and inspire us to continually improve, and each design is prototyped and tested in some of the most demanding off-road conditions.

Some of the very best riders in the world use Giant Loop gear, including Baja 1000 winners Quinn Cody and Kendall Norman, off-road racing legend Malcolm Smith, world-record setting Husaberg Adventure Team, London-to-Sydney riders from Continental Drift, as well as many others.

Giant Loop has also received positive reviews in virtually every major US motorcycling publication, as well as Australian, European and South African media.

We began in 2008 with a hope of opening up new possibilities for riders to explore this magnificent planet, and today we stand proud to have expanded horizons for a worldwide community of riders.

We invite you to ask questions, share feedback, stories and photos.

Ride while you can!
Harold Olaf Cecil
owner, co-founder
Giant Loop
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Designed in Bend, Oregon
Made in USA
Ridden Worldwide

realmc26 8 May 2013 12:06

Heading off next week for 2 weeks riding in Laos.
Looking forward to testing out my Great basin:thumbup1:

OlafofOregon 8 May 2013 19:50

Great Basin Saddlebag goes to Laos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by realmc26 (Post 421401)
Heading off next week for 2 weeks riding in Laos.
Looking forward to testing out my Great basin:thumbup1:

:clap:Fantastic! Post up some pics and feedback when you get the chance. Go light, go fast, go far, Harold

OlafofOregon 8 May 2013 19:52

First Feedback on KTM 1190 Adventure R - Fandango Tank Bag Fitment
 
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Steve Smith at Giant Loop's Australian distributor Adventure Moto just passed along the first pic and feedback about the Fandango Tank Bag's fitment on the much anticipated KTM 1190 Adventure R, available in Europe now, arriving in Oz soon - hopefully coming to USA before the year is over?! Here's what Trailzone magazine editor Clubby had to say after the Australian press launch:

"Boys: just returned from a two-day haul out the back of Barrington Tops for the Aussie media launch of the new KTM 1190 Adventure R ... the thing is a weapon ... in Street or Sport mode she barks out a whopping 150hp ... say good-bye to your rear tyre!
Check out the pic attached of yours truly ... I ran the white GL Fandango on the new Austrian weapon and can report she fits like a glove!
Fire the pic across to Harold and let him know.
And thanks for all your support!
Clubbman,
TZ Inc."

OlafofOregon 8 May 2013 19:58

2nd Annual Giant Loop Oregon Backcountry Overnighter: Bend to Summer Lake Hot Springs
 
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Saturday & Sunday, June 1 & 2
Pre-pay to RSVP and reserve your spot before Monday, May 27
Join Giant Loop for off-road adventure in Oregon's beautiful high desert.

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$50 includes:
• Hosted scenic dirt and gravel road ride from Giant Loop’s shop to Summer Lake Hot Springs Resort (off-road riding experience and properly equipped bike required, but only medium technical difficulty, with three routes to choose from)
• GPS routes/maps
• Camping and soaking at Summer Lake Hot Springs
• Plus breakfast and dinner Saturday and breakfast Sunday.

Cabins and house available for additional charge. Call Summer Lake Hot Springs for availability and reservations 541-943-3931.

Get all the details and sign up here!

OlafofOregon 8 May 2013 21:12

Security Question: Have you ever had your luggage stolen, slashed or broken into?
 
We often get questions about the security of Giant Loop soft luggage. Here's a recent email reply I sent to a customer:

Security is a matter of perception. A professional thief will simply take the whole bike, gear and all, and be gone before you know what happened. As my grandfather used to say, "locks keep honest people honest." Even traveling in the US I try to park where I can see my bike - and I take everything off and put it in my room or tent if I'm not going to be around. It takes just a couple of minutes to mount/dismount our bags, which is what I did every night for three weeks in Australia and on every US trip I've ever made, long before starting Giant Loop.

In nearly five years of selling our bags now - and having riders take the most extreme overland trips on every continent - we have never heard of a single customer who has had a bag slashed. And the only theft we've ever heard about was a customer who left his fully loaded bike in the parking lot at a music festival (in Montana), got stumble drunk and found his gear scattered around the parking lot. He picked up most of it and called us about getting a couple of replacement stuff sacks.

Personally, I think the best security is to park your bike in a visible, high traffic location, befriend the locals and ask them to keep an eye on your bike and not to let anyone touch it - or roll the bike into a room or courtyard where the whole thing can be locked up.

One of the simplest, most effective ways to keep people from tampering with your bike is to throw a cover over it. Far easier than wrestling with a Pacsafe metal mesh net.

The Pacsafe should be plenty of protection if you get one that's large enough to fit over the whole bag and lock it to the bike. The holes in the mesh are small enough that a potential thief would have to be pretty determined and have plenty of time without interruption to wrestle your gear through the hole piece by piece.

These customers rode from London to Sydney overland last year on KTM 690s with our Great Basin Saddlebags and Fandango Tank Bags - they never had any issues with theft or security:
Go Light. Go Fast.: Giant Loop Riders: Continental Drift - China to Tibet Photos

At least one customer I know of did a Silk Road tour from Europe across Asia without incident, and without trying too hard I could come up with other examples of riders on every continent but Antarctica.

How cut-proof is our material? Not sure because no one has ever even tried to cut it that we're aware of - but I can tell you our bags have slid across two lanes of pavement and survived (a customer crashed on a Russia trip last year and showed me his Dry Bag - all scuffed up by still in tact).

If you participate in any of the online forums, please feel free to share this information. If there are any Giant Loop customers out there who have had their bags stolen or slashed, I'd like to hear about it!

tmotten 10 May 2013 02:08

Suggestions
 
I'm a big fan of the concept idea behind the original bag (I've got 2 myself) but am wondering why you guys never took a few variations further. I understand the cost involved with making lots of different templates on this but I think there is certainly a market for at least one variation of the coyote, which would be more aimed on the growing minimalist overlander crowd.

A lot of people find the great basin way to big up high whilst the coyote looks like it could be optimised with more internal space down low. This could then be used carrying the additional fuel and water that a lot of people struggle width. Commonly this gets strapped up high with a bladder or other container, but this is far from ideal.

I understand that the height that the sides of the coyote finish at is so it is compatible with as many bikes as possible. Is this correct?

But I struggle to think of a bike that has something in the location directly below the bag as it is now that stops is coming down further to pillion peg height. A bit like the new panniers seem to do. The leg space that a pillion would take could be utilized I think.

Below is a real crappy photoshop attempt to explain it a bit. Ideally the bottom could be a bit squarer to allow for a few standard side bladders like a 6l dromedary to lie just above the pillion peg horizontally. It wouldn't be to hard for someone like liquid containment to make and market a bladder in the same size.

Are there any plans to make an in between bag to fit an medium sized bag for small overland bikes to sit between the big bike giant basin and siskiyou and the weekend trail ride coyote?

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OlafofOregon 10 May 2013 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 421636)
I'm a big fan of the concept idea behind the original bag (I've got 2 myself) but am wondering why you guys never took a few variations further. I understand the cost involved with making lots of different templates on this but I think there is certainly a market for at least one variation of the coyote, which would be more aimed on the growing minimalist overlander crowd.

A lot of people find the great basin way to big up high whilst the coyote looks like it could be optimised with more internal space down low. This could then be used carrying the additional fuel and water that a lot of people struggle width. Commonly this gets strapped up high with a bladder or other container, but this is far from ideal.

I understand that the height that the sides of the coyote finish at is so it is compatible with as many bikes as possible. Is this correct?

But I struggle to think of a bike that has something in the location directly below the bag as it is now that stops is coming down further to pillion peg height. A bit like the new panniers seem to do. The leg space that a pillion would take could be utilized I think.

Below is a real crappy photoshop attempt to explain it a bit. Ideally the bottom could be a bit squarer to allow for a few standard side bladders like a 6l dromedary to lie just above the pillion peg horizontally. It wouldn't be to hard for someone like liquid containment to make and market a bladder in the same size.

Are there any plans to make an in between bag to fit an medium sized bag for small overland bikes to sit between the big bike giant basin and siskiyou and the weekend trail ride coyote?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...8883_photo.jpg

Hello! Thanks for sharing the feedback - the experiences of riders using our gear drives our design process. I will share your comments and ideas with our design director.

Part of the answer to your query: We're developing modular systems that serve the needs of a wide spectrum of riders and applications. It's quite easy to strap a Giant Loop Dry Bag behind the Coyote and/or to lash additional gear to the outside when you need it, while still enjoying a trim, dirt-worthy profile and position. And when you don't need to carry as much gear, then the top of the Saddlebag can be compressed and flattened.

Giant Loop exists precisely because we wanted a trim, minimalist means of carrying our camping gear on dirt bikes - without compromising our ability to ride hard and fast in the deserts and mountains of Oregon.

When riders need/want to carry more gear, the Great Basin Saddlebag doubles the volume. That doesn't mean you have to pack every last liter of space (although it seems to be human nature to fill whatever packing space is available).

Anything packed above seat height on a motorcycle should be lightweight, with all the heavier stuff packed lower - this keeps the motorcycle handling like a motorcycle!

Stay tuned for future product developments!

Go light, go fast, go far!
- Harold

OlafofOregon 10 May 2013 16:02

Zigzag Handlebar Bag on BMW 1150 GS
 
Pic from Giant Loop ambassador Jeff Simpson:
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OlafofOregon 10 May 2013 16:04

Siskiyou Panniers + Fort Rock Top Case on BMW 1150 GS
 
Pic from Giant Loop ambassador Jeff Simpson:
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tmotten 11 May 2013 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 421696)
Hello! Thanks for sharing the feedback - the experiences of riders using our gear drives our design process. I will share your comments and ideas with our design director.

Part of the answer to your query: We're developing modular systems that serve the needs of a wide spectrum of riders and applications. It's quite easy to strap a Giant Loop Dry Bag behind the Coyote and/or to lash additional gear to the outside when you need it, while still enjoying a trim, dirt-worthy profile and position. And when you don't need to carry as much gear, then the top of the Saddlebag can be compressed and flattened.

Giant Loop exists precisely because we wanted a trim, minimalist means of carrying our camping gear on dirt bikes - without compromising our ability to ride hard and fast in the deserts and mountains of Oregon.

When riders need/want to carry more gear, the Great Basin Saddlebag doubles the volume. That doesn't mean you have to pack every last liter of space (although it seems to be human nature to fill whatever packing space is available).

Anything packed above seat height on a motorcycle should be lightweight, with all the heavier stuff packed lower - this keeps the motorcycle handling like a motorcycle!

Stay tuned for future product developments!

Go light, go fast, go far!
- Harold


Totally understand and agree. I will definitely keep using the coyote for local trail riding. That pillion leg room is used by the rider on those occasions, so in that respect the coyote is perfect.

'Overlanding' in the way that this forum is setup to share experiences on doesn't require this at all. The worst conditions often are potholes and corrugated roads. Not nasty and eroded single trail hill climbs. The giant basin is just to bulky for small bore adventure bikes that seem to be on the rise. So I figured I'd point out this hole in the market as I see it that should only require some adjustments to an existing model rather than a newly developed product. :thumbup1:

We've had to postpone our trip recently so you've got a bit more time. :Beach:

OlafofOregon 15 May 2013 01:45

2013 Overland Expo
 
Leaving tomorrow morning for Overland Expo in Arizona! See you there?!
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OlafofOregon 23 May 2013 01:59

Giant Loop Summer Lake Hot Springs Ride, June 1 & 2
 
bierComing on our Summer Lake Ride? We need a head count for food and beer by Monday. Spread the word and invite a friend! Click here to sign up.

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OlafofOregon 24 May 2013 16:58

2013 Overland Expo pics
 
Posted up some pics of Overland Expo, including traveling to/from the event here.

Some highlights below
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colebatch 27 May 2013 18:54

Harold, happy to get back over there when I get a chance.

Like Tmotten, I love the original idea and in terms of convenience on a regular enduro bike for short trips it's hard to beat. Still running the coyote on my Husaberg, and the Fandango on both bikes.

bier

realmc26 5 Jun 2013 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 421636)
I'm a big fan of the concept idea behind the original bag (I've got 2 myself) but am wondering why you guys never took a few variations further. I understand the cost involved with making lots of different templates on this but I think there is certainly a market for at least one variation of the coyote, which would be more aimed on the growing minimalist overlander crowd.

A lot of people find the great basin way to big up high whilst the coyote looks like it could be optimised with more internal space down low. This could then be used carrying the additional fuel and water that a lot of people struggle width. Commonly this gets strapped up high with a bladder or other container, but this is far from ideal.

I understand that the height that the sides of the coyote finish at is so it is compatible with as many bikes as possible. Is this correct?

But I struggle to think of a bike that has something in the location directly below the bag as it is now that stops is coming down further to pillion peg height. A bit like the new panniers seem to do. The leg space that a pillion would take could be utilized I think.

Below is a real crappy photoshop attempt to explain it a bit. Ideally the bottom could be a bit squarer to allow for a few standard side bladders like a 6l dromedary to lie just above the pillion peg horizontally. It wouldn't be to hard for someone like liquid containment to make and market a bladder in the same size.

Are there any plans to make an in between bag to fit an medium sized bag for small overland bikes to sit between the big bike giant basin and siskiyou and the weekend trail ride coyote?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...8883_photo.jpg

I have used the Great Basin fully loaded with dry bag on my Bonnie T100 and I barely knew it was there. Hardly off road riding though.

Just got back from 2 weeks in Laos using it on an XR 250 on all sorts of surfaces. Again hardly knew it was there, doesn't move an inch and didn't find it top heavy at all, but I didn't take as much gear and I simply left space on top. Have not used a coyote but would certainly not go smaller than a great basin for any trip more than a week or so. Seems like a perfect size as is.

tmotten 6 Jun 2013 12:26

Personally I feel 60l is a bit to inviting to fill up beyond essentials. A better volume for remote long distance riding would be closer to 40-45l which might be achieved when using that space behind the legs. Similar to conventional saddle bags.

Either way, it's still using something in a way that it's not designed for.

realmc26 6 Jun 2013 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 424833)
Personally I feel 60l is a bit to inviting to fill up beyond essentials. A better volume for remote long distance riding would be closer to 40-45l which might be achieved when using that space behind the legs. Similar to conventional saddle bags.

Either way, it's still using something in a way that it's not designed for.

Sorry but not sure what you mean by using something its not designed for?

tmotten 6 Jun 2013 23:37

When the coyote was first released as the giant loop is was to suit small-mid bore trail and enduro bikes. Giving enough capacity for a few nights out, but in a way that wouldn't, or only marginally, affect the weight distribution and therefore the riding performance/ experience of a lightweight bike. Achieved by not needing racks and only providing 30l of space located close to the rider body.

My understanding is that the big bore crowd wanted something like that, but bigger with a similar capacity to conventional bags. Thus the basin was made.

This is not the type of use that I'm eluding to. I've used the coyote on week trips (no camping) fully packed on a DRZ full of beach, sand tracks and single trail mountain rides and, when used to the different feel of the added weight, if did feel like it was part of the bike. So much that you forget it's there when you try to dismount. doh

If you look at the suggested packing list on the GL blog though you notice a few items missing, which you would take on a big trip. Like a clothes bag with spare clothes for around town, or a few litres of camping water, etc.

The basin would work, but it's not designed for small-mid bore bikes with narrow seats so it's a compromise. There is also too much capacity up high. On a big heavy bike you probably won't notice. But on a small one you are more likely to tell the difference similar to comparing moving from a coyote to a duffle bag on the seat with equal weight.

Sure, you can get by and get used to it. But why be satisfied with that. GL wouldn't have developed the coyote if they took that approach.

OlafofOregon 11 Jun 2013 00:15

Pics from Giant Loop's 2013 Summer Lake Hot Springs Ride
 
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MORE PICS HERE

OlafofOregon 12 Jun 2013 19:02

Diablo Tank Bag in Dirt Rider Magazine's "Gear Bag"
 
Thanks Dirt Rider for spotlighting Giant Loop's Diablo Tank Bag in the magazine's July 2013 issue! The Diablo hauls the groceries, for sure, but it also makes it a lot harder to say, "I can't carry anything, I'm on my dirt bike." Go light, go fast, go far!
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"Giant Loop Diablo Tank Bag: $164 - With its universal fit, water-resistant construction and four liters of storage space, it's harder to say, 'I can't grab milk on the way home, I'm on my bike.' Giant Loop™ Moto: Saddlebags for Motorcycles | Welcome, 458-208-9113" — Dirt Rider magazine, "Gear Bag," July 2013:clap:

OlafofOregon 13 Jun 2013 01:41

Triumph Tiger 800XC Custom Adventure Build by Freedom Cycles
 
bierReally beautiful custom adventure build on the Triumph Tiger 800XC - and they chose to feature Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers and Zigzag Handlebar Bag!
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The Zigzag is so versatile - you can even strap it to your frame if you want (might be in the way of your knee though, I think).
Check out more pics and details here.

OlafofOregon 18 Jun 2013 01:43

Buckin' Roll Tank Bag in Dirt Bike magazine's "Adventure-The Goods"
 
Thanks Dirt Bike magazine for including Giant Loop's Buckin' Roll Tank Bag in the July issue's "Adventure - The Goods" round up!bier
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OlafofOregon 18 Jun 2013 02:37

Coyote Saddlebag Compared With Great Basin Saddlebag
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 424904)
When the coyote was first released as the giant loop is was to suit small-mid bore trail and enduro bikes. Giving enough capacity for a few nights out, but in a way that wouldn't, or only marginally, affect the weight distribution and therefore the riding performance/ experience of a lightweight bike. Achieved by not needing racks and only providing 30l of space located close to the rider body.

My understanding is that the big bore crowd wanted something like that, but bigger with a similar capacity to conventional bags. Thus the basin was made.

This is not the type of use that I'm eluding to. I've used the coyote on week trips (no camping) fully packed on a DRZ full of beach, sand tracks and single trail mountain rides and, when used to the different feel of the added weight, if did feel like it was part of the bike. So much that you forget it's there when you try to dismount. doh

If you look at the suggested packing list on the GL blog though you notice a few items missing, which you would take on a big trip. Like a clothes bag with spare clothes for around town, or a few litres of camping water, etc.

The basin would work, but it's not designed for small-mid bore bikes with narrow seats so it's a compromise. There is also too much capacity up high. On a big heavy bike you probably won't notice. But on a small one you are more likely to tell the difference similar to comparing moving from a coyote to a duffle bag on the seat with equal weight.

Sure, you can get by and get used to it. But why be satisfied with that. GL wouldn't have developed the coyote if they took that approach.

Thanks for the thoughtful comments - and you're clearly on board with our concept. bier

Another key difference between the Great Basin Saddlebag (60 liters) and the Coyote Saddlebag (30 liters) is position and orientation of the bag on the bike. The Great Basin Saddlebag is purpose-built for bikes with passenger pegs. It rides where the passenger would sit - that is, on the pillion seat - and its "legs" hang nearly perpendicular to the seat. The Coyote Saddlebag is purpose-built for bikes without passenger pegs. It rides behind the seat - on the rear fender or tail rack - and its "legs" hang diagonally. But the fitment is so universal, the two saddlebags crossover a huge range of makes/models. Lots of examples on our blog.

As you point out, lowering weight distribution when packing makes a significant, noticeable, positive impact on the loaded bike's handling. The tricker bit is the lack of structure low on an enduro bike, and the weight reduction and positioning advantages of Giant Loop's rackless concept more than make up for the lightweight bulky things packed above seat height.:thumbup1:

OlafofOregon 18 Jun 2013 23:48

Great Basin Saddlebag and Ted Simon in BMW Owners News
 
Giant Loop's Great Basin Saddlebag was in some great company in this month's issue of BMW Owners News magazine, appearing on moto-journalist Sandy Borden's article, "Times with Ted: Checking in with a Legend." :D
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Yes, that's THE pioneering, world traveling godfather of adventure motorcycle travel, author Ted Simon with Sandy and her hubby Terry Borden (two-thirds of the Adventure Trio). Looks like Sandy's tripod rides nicely on the back of the Great Basin Saddlebag!

tmotten 19 Jun 2013 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 426400)
As you point out, lowering weight distribution when packing makes a significant, noticeable, positive impact on the loaded bike's handling. The tricker bit is the lack of structure low on an enduro bike, and the weight reduction and positioning advantages of Giant Loop's rackless concept more than make up for the lightweight bulky things packed above seat height.:thumbup1:

Not quite.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ceptSide01.jpg

This image shows that the Coyote is far from low and way to small for the purpose of the type of riding typically discussed on this forum. I wouldn't even consider the Basin because it takes the Coyote template and builts up, not down from there. In either case a lightweight rack or shield with a conventional saddle bag would be far more suitable.

I've drawn this up to prove to myself that your philosophy can be applied to achieve the ultimate system, which I think is a rackless horse shoe bag in a sufficient size. With a bit of security in it if possible, which I think is easily done with a horseshoe shape. I've got a few ideas on it if you're interested (PM only).

I was actually surprised how much volume this yields. A stiff base on the bag as with the Coyote, along with compression straps (which curls the bag off the exhaust like the Coyote), heat shield (like the Coyote) and the pillion peg should be sufficient. I've actually cut a base template to further convince me of this.

I was disappointed to see GL move away from this shape and philosophy and move into conventional saddle bag....

realmc26 19 Jun 2013 06:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 426546)
Not quite.

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This image shows that the Coyote is far from low and way to small for the purpose of the type of riding typically discussed on this forum. I wouldn't even consider the Basin because it takes the Coyote template and builts up, not down from there. In either case a lightweight rack or shield with a conventional saddle bag would be far more suitable.

I've drawn this up to prove to myself that your philosophy can be applied to achieve the ultimate system, which I think is a rackless horse shoe bag in a sufficient size. With a bit of security in it if possible, which I think is easily done with a horseshoe shape. I've got a few ideas on it if you're interested (PM only).

I was actually surprised how much volume this yields. A stiff base on the bag as with the Coyote, along with compression straps (which curls the bag off the exhaust like the Coyote), heat shield (like the Coyote) and the pillion peg should be sufficient. I've actually cut a base template to further convince me of this.

I was disappointed to see GL move away from this shape and philosophy and move into conventional saddle bag....

I have looked at hundreds of set ups for long distance travel. Most of them involve some combination of roll/dry bag, hard case etc etc in the pillion and/or rack area. The Giant Loop with a roll bag tucked in behind in my mind is no different, especially if your heavier items are packed down low in the GL bag. On the xr 250 in Laos off road and doing some rocky river beds both fully loaded and without my luggage. I seriously couldn't tell much difference in handling. The GL fits in so snug and I dont think its top heavy at all.
Maybe your coming from the point of view of a hard core offroader but I'm guessing the reality for most RTW or long distance riders is that most of that journey will be on tarmac and reasonably maintained dirt roads.
As long as you can pack light I am not sure why the GL would not do the job as safely as a lot of other setups.
And for me, I just love that in 2 minutes my gear is off the bike, on my shoulder and Im walking into my hotel.

tmotten 19 Jun 2013 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by realmc26 (Post 426559)
Maybe your coming from the point of view of a hard core offroader but I'm guessing the reality for most RTW or long distance riders is that most of that journey will be on tarmac and reasonably maintained dirt roads.

You hit the nail on the head. More and more people seem to be looking for something that keep all the options open. Situations where a decision to not go somewhere because of their setup is becoming less acceptable.

I didn't buy this bike to stick to tarmac. Instead I'm spending more time finding donkey tracks.

Have a go with your gear like that through the dunes or a sandy track. Fraser island is good to try this out. I reckon you'll quickly reconsider. bier

The point is that there is ample scope for improvement. Why not make it? It's a gap in the market and a simple job I reckon.

OlafofOregon 19 Jun 2013 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 426546)
I was disappointed to see GL move away from this shape and philosophy and move into conventional saddle bag....

We have not moved away from our original biomorphic design concept at all. The Coyote Saddlebag, Great Basin Saddlebag and MoJavi Saddlebag are all built around Giant Loop's original, groundbreaking concept of wrapping the load around the bike's subframe, positioned exactly where engineers built bikes to carry loads.

Admittedly, not everyone rides as hard and fast across rough terrain as we and many of our customers do . . . but that's how we build all of our gear to be ridden, even if you're just cruising tar and gravel roads.:mchappy:

OlafofOregon 19 Jun 2013 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 426546)

Thanks for the ideas and feedback - you're obviously really passionate about this subject!bier

OlafofOregon 19 Jun 2013 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 426546)
the type of riding typically discussed on this forum

Having attended a couple of Horizons meetings now, I'm not sure there's any one "type of riding" we all share in common, except for broadly, overland travel on a motorcycle.

I've seen every manner of motorcycle and met riders who have traveled on every imaginable road and trail surface in virtually every corner of the globe.

Giant Loop's focus on the more "hard core" end of this spectrum means our bags perform beautifully in less demanding conditions, while also enabling riders to push the limits and boundaries of what can be done on a motorcycle laden with gear.

We love the diversity of travelers here! Adventure is an attitude, not a type of motorcycle, rider or trip.:welcome:

OlafofOregon 20 Jun 2013 03:18

Kiwis Riding Trans Canada Trail on Yamaha WR250s
 
Keith Larkin from White's Powersports, Giant Loop's distributor in New Zealand, is riding the Trans Canada Trail with another Kiwi, both on Yamaha WR250s equipped with Great Basin Saddlebags, Great Basin Dry Pods, Great Basin Dry Bags and Zigzag Handlebar Bags.:mchappy:
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Here's an update from the trail:

Hi guys, everything going well here.

Finished the 600 km T Rail yesterday - what a ride! More like a trail ride in parts as against adv ride, but a hoot on 250's!

The pic is an old rail car by the trail.

Harold I have done a bit if this long distance adv riding, and luggage has always been a ball ache. Giant Loop is fantastic for this stuff, tough, amazingly easy to use , and great balance on bike. A no brainier.

Today is a road blast up to the ferry for Labrador and some serious wilderness.

Thanks again for your help guys.
Keith

OlafofOregon 20 Jun 2013 22:12

2-Up on KTM 640 Adventure with Fort Rock Top Case
 
Customer review of Fort Rock Top Case just posted on ADV Rider - Gale and his wife packing for camping, riding 2-up on a KTM 640 Adventure with soft panniers.
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"The Fort Rock top case is a new motorcycle travel bag being offered by Giant Loop of Bend, Oregon and I had the opportunity to test one out on several off road type motorcycle trips.

I, along with wife, have over 40K miles using a "u" shape type bag similar to the Fort Rock. This bag that we have been using sits on the rear of our RT, has served us very well carrying most or all of our camping gear, 2 down bags, 3 person tent/foot print, 2 sleeping pads, first aid kit, some spare bike parts and our running shoes ! It also gives wife arm rest and a back support that she loves.

The Fort Rock will do the same except we are going to double up on a 1999 KTM 640 Adventure R . The Fort Rock is designed, produced and tested by off road riders that have come to choose almost everything Giant Loop produces.

This bag is very well made, super thick water proof outer material, expert stitched to eliminate almost all possible avenues for water to get inside. May not be totally water-proof but almost! Giant Loop’s Dry Pods/Dry Bags can be used to ensure total water-proof environment.

This Fort Rock bag is going to be perfect for my wife and I on our first trip off road trip to test this bag. It will carry almost all of the above camping gear and still be secure enough and light enough to handle the rough roads we expect to travel. Also a good back rest/arm supports for my passenger."


READ THE REST OF THE REVIEW HERE!
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OlafofOregon 22 Jun 2013 00:23

NEW! Pronghorn Straps™ by Giant Loop
 
Every motorcyclist needs a handful of these multi-purpose stretch polyurethane straps with unbreakable fasteners. You'll find a million uses for these quick, solid, tough straps. We've been using them for years to secure everything from luggage to water and fuel bottles to our Bushwackers Hand Guards.
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Sold in packages of 2, and 26", 20" and 16" lengths, featuring Giant Loop's iconic cow skull graphic and our design mantra: "Go Light. Go Fast. Go Far."
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Check out our hammer test video of the unbreakable fastener!

Named for the Pronghorn* - indigenous to the American West, fast, tough and able to withstand the harsh environments of the Great Basin.
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PRONGHORN STRAPS - SPECS & FEATURES
• super tough stretch polyurethane
• unbreakable unfastener
• adjustable to 4"minimum
• width 3/4"
• Made in Canada (yep! it's our first product NOT made in USA)
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* Often called an antelope, which is an African animal and not related to the American Pronghorn.

OlafofOregon 2 Jul 2013 02:12

WABDR to 2013 Touratech Rally
 
Rode the first two north-bound sections of the WABDR on the way to the Touratech-USA Rally last weekend.

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See that broken limb behind my bike? Jousted my handlebar end, pitching me off the bike high-side going about 30 MPH - be VERY cautious with overhanging branches!

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Carson to Packwood and Packwood to Ellensburg - all clear, no reroutes needed. Expect a few patches of snow on the first section and about 10 miles of rutted muddy dirt road on the second section.

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Great variety of terrain, road surfaces and scenery! :clap:

brads 4 Jul 2013 05:16

Is that Miami Vice` Don Johnson in the first set of pics ??:thumbup1:

OlafofOregon 16 Jul 2013 18:55

Zigzag Handlebar Bag in Dirt Bike Magazine
 
Thanks Dirt Bike magazine for including Giant Loop's Zigzag Handlebar Bag in the August 2013 issue's "Adventure - The Goods" gear roundup!:D
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OlafofOregon 25 Jul 2013 01:17

MEDIC MoJavi Saddlebags for Events & Volunteers
 
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To give back to our motorcycling community and the many volunteers who help make racing and group riding events possible, Giant Loop produced a special limited edition MEDIC version of our top-selling MoJavi Saddlebag, with high-visibility yellow construction and graphics to immediately identify designated medical support riders. The MEDIC MoJavi Saddlebags are available free of charge to qualifying volunteers and event organizers.
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Events of 50 or more riders qualify, as well as individual volunteers who work two or more events per year. Quantities are VERY limited, and saddlebags will be awarded on a first-come-first-served basis to qualifying requests. Message us here to apply.:santa:

OlafofOregon 7 Aug 2013 20:34

2013 Rally In The Gorge - Pics & Highlights
 
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More pics here.

OlafofOregon 8 Aug 2013 23:54

Noah Horak's Adventure
 
One of our favorite blogs is Noah Horak's Adventure, chronicling Noah's round-the-world travels on his KTM 690 Enduro, from snowboarding in Georgia for the winter to crossing central Asia, to his last destination, the pics are great and the reports full of the stuff of life.
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OlafofOregon 14 Aug 2013 01:13

Beta Motorcycles Distributor in Poland Tours Montenegro
 
Beta Polska's Andrzej tours Montenegro with the Coyote Saddlebag and Coyote Dry Bag on his Beta dual sport.
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MORE PICS HERE

OlafofOregon 14 Aug 2013 23:45

AimForTheHorizon.com - 3 Riders on Honda XRV750 Africa Twins
 
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Three riders from the UK set out to "Ride The World" a section at a time. All on Honda XRV750 Africa Twins and all kitted out with Giant Loop's Great Basin Saddlebag and Fandango Tank Bag.

Here's the first intro video documenting the their adventures.

Follow their adventures as they ride the world, a few weeks at a time.

OlafofOregon 22 Aug 2013 01:56

Siskiyou Panniers on KTM 990 Adventure
 
Anyone have pics of Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers on a KTM 990 Adventure??c?

OlafofOregon 26 Aug 2013 22:21

Trip Report: Impromptu Overnighter. Destination: Unknown.
 
Carpe diem! Check out the report here.
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OlafofOregon 27 Aug 2013 21:37

Siskiyou Panniers on KTM 990 Adventure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 433696)
Anyone have pics of Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers on a KTM 990 Adventure??c?

Thanks Mark at Sierra Nevada Adventures for the beautiful pic of the Siskiyou Panniers on your KTM 990 Adventure! :clap
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OlafofOregon 28 Aug 2013 23:19

CJ Designs DL650 Dual Sport Build with Siskiyou Panniers
 
Check out this super-bad V-Strom adventure bike build by CJ Designs!
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Tough bikes need tough luggage!
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Check out cjracer's thread about the bike here.

OlafofOregon 3 Sep 2013 19:16

Fort Rock Top Case review in BMW Motorcycle Magazine
 
Thanks BMW Motorcycle Magazine for logging miles with the Fort Rock Top Case - you've already lightened your load considerably by riding Giant Loop vs. a hard luggage tail rack system!:clap
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OlafofOregon 6 Sep 2013 23:51

video: Canadian Couple Camps on Suzuki DR200s
 
Small bike camping is where it all started for us - love this video!bier

OlafofOregon 20 Sep 2013 20:39

New Giant Loop Gear: Tillamook Dry Bag, Rogue Dry Bag, Rubber Boa Straps
 
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Just in time for Fall and Winter motorcycle riding, Giant Loop releases two new 100% waterproof double ended roll top dry bags, the Tillamook Dry Bag and Rogue Dry Bag.

Plus, expedition strength shock cord fender straps, the Rubber Boa Straps.
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Tillamook Dry Bag (38 liters) and Rogue Dry Bag (17 liters)
Indispensible equipment for on- and off-road motorcyclists - keeps gear dry and easily accessible.
* Made in USA
* Limited Lifetime Warranty
* 18 oz. polyurethane with welded seams
* Reflective daisy chain - easy attachment, high visibility
* Vertical nylon compression straps with heavy-duty side release buckles

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Tillamook Dry Bag™
* 38 liters packable volume
* unpacked flat dimensions 40" x 19"
* Integrates with Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers
* 2 reflective daisy chains
* MSRP $89.00
Tillamook Dry Bag available now


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Rogue Dry Bag™
* 17 liters packable volume
* unpacked flat dimensions 32.5" x 13.5"
* Integrates with Giant Loop's Coyote/Great Basin Saddlebags
* 1 reflective daisy chain
* MSRP $73.00
Rogue Dry Bag available now

Rubber Boa Straps™
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Put the squeeze on a spare inner tube, tools, water or other essential gear with Giant Loop's new Rubber Boa Straps™ lashed to dirt bike fenders.
* Made in the USA
* Military-spec 1/4-in. shock cord
* Heavy-duty injection molded fender hooks
* Super tough and stable
* Fit most standard dirt bike plastics
* MSRP $25 (package of 2)
Rubber Boa Straps available now

Support our excellent Giant Loop dealers! Find your nearby Authorized Giant Loop Dealer here.

Go light, go fast, go far,
Team Giant Loop


Designed in Bend, Oregon | Made in USA | Ridden Worldwide

OlafofOregon 27 Sep 2013 20:13

Tiffany Coates in Madagascar
 
Our friend Tiffany Coates posted up some pics of her latest adventure: dirt biking in Madagascar.
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OlafofOregon 7 Oct 2013 21:06

10,000 KM on a KTM 950 Adventure in Australia's Outback
 
http://giantloopmoto.com/wp-content/.../IMG_2246.jpegGreat email from Giant Loop rider Jack from Perth, Australia:

Hey fellas,

Just got back from a 10,000km solo trip from Western Australia thru the Great Victoria Desert to Uluru (Ayres Rock), down the Oodnadatta & Strezleki Tracks to Tibooburra, then to Albury & up to the New South Wales Snowy mountains, Victorian high country & back to WA, about 10000Km, all on my KTM950 Adventure, equipped with your Siskiyou Panniers & Diablo Tank Bag.

I gotta say, I gave the panniers a floggin’ & they’re still hangin’ in there, cos very early in the trip, I lost the 2 heat shields & the muffler burnt a hole in the right bag & the dry bag as well, but whilst in Kalgoorlie, I managed to patch em up with some hundred mile an hour tape & with some rough bush craft, new hose clamps & some aluminium angle, I fashioned a new heat shield, I was back on the trail in no time flat. Just wished I’d paid as much attention to securing the original heat shields as did doing the patch up job !!!! *Lesson learnt : Lock wire your hose clamps so they can’t come loose.

So, all was going very well till about 50Km west of Tibooburra, NSW, I had a very close call with an Emu ( like an Ostrich), fortunately not knocking me off, but as I glanced it, the left pannier took the full brunt breaking the plastic D ring, but amazingly not the webbing off the lower front side strap that goes onto the footpeg mount assembly. All at about 120Kmh, I didn’t have time to shit myself it happened that quick.

Anyway, *all in all the bags worked great for me & were easily big enough to carry all I needed & did everything I asked of them & more, right from the desert to the snowy mountains & back. Great product fellas, they’re as tough as guts.

Jack

Perth, Western Australia

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OlafofOregon 10 Oct 2013 20:55

Best email message we've ever received from a customer
 
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"Hey Guys

4 years ago you guys at giant loop auctioned off a bag and donated the money to me after I was injured filming at the races.

On the 4 year anniversary of that accident, a few friends and I took off on a 6 day ride on the WABDR after we ordered some of your gear for the trip.

On the last night of the trip I did a little camp scene setup and took some nice pics for you as a way to say thanks.

Thanks again for stepping up and helping me and my family out while I was out injured.

You guys make a great product, and it worked flawless on this epic adventure.

Dave"
www.davidschelske.com

OlafofOregon 22 Nov 2013 22:11

BMW Motorcycle Magazine - Winter 2013
 
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From BMW Motorcycle Magazine, Winter 2013:

Motorcycle Adventure Gear
Giant Loop has become known for products that are rugged yet lightweight and can be loaded with stability. New products include:

Pronghorn Straps: Multi-purpose stretch polyurethane straps with virtually unbreakable fasteners. You’ll find a hundred uses for these tough, quick-connecting straps for securing items to bike or luggage. Sold in packages of two, the 3/4″-wide Pronghorn Straps are available in three color-coded lengths. Multiple straps can be chained together to make various lengths. 16″ gray $15, 20″ orange $17, 26″ red $19.

Indispensible Dry Bags: The 17-liter Rogue (20.5″ x 13.5″) and 38-liter Tillamook (40″ x 19″) are new. Made in the USA of 18 oz gray polyurethane with 100% waterproof radio-frequency welded seams. They both feature reflective daisy chain loops for easy attachment, access to gear from each end and durable side release buckles with vertical nylon compression straps for secure closing. $73, $89

Rubber Boa Straps: Shock cord straps with molded hooks lash gear to dirt bike fenders, in packages of two, super tough Rubber Boa Straps are made in the USA from military-spec 1/4″ shock cord with heavy-duty injection molded fender hooks. $25, giantloopmoto.com "

OlafofOregon 9 Jan 2014 17:54

Hey HUBB! Wake Up! It's 2014! - BMW Owner's News Review
 
Thank you Kit J. Vercella for the comprehensive review of Giant Loop’s Tillamook Dry Bag and Rogue Dry Bag in the January 2014 “Kit And Caboodle” column of BMW Owners News magazine.

This is our favorite part:
“A personal side note: Although not necessarily relevant to your purchasing decision, there is something heartening about a group of adventure riders down the street who have the vision and technical expertise to create top-shelf, functional motorcycle gear every bit as good (maybe even better) than their corporate rivals worldwide.”

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OlafofOregon 22 Jan 2014 00:45

2014 Buckin' Roll Tank Bag - Center Only
 
https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...47064956_n.jpgOur trimmest tank bag yet! The 2014 Buckin' Roll Tank Bag is available in this center Tool Pouch only configuration, making it the most minimal and most affordable tank bag in Giant Loop's Adventure Proof Packing Systems line.

In stock and shipping now!:clap:

OlafofOregon 22 Jan 2014 20:32

2014 Buckin' Roll Tank Bag - Complete & Center Only Options
 
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New for 2014, Giant Loop's Buckin' Roll Tank Bag has been completely redesigned, making it fit virtually any motorcycle make/model and fuel tank combo.

Named for saddle pads used by rodeo cowboys, Giant Loop's Buckin’ Roll Tank Bag keeps all the essentials handy and out of the way when standing on the footpegs, making it the Tank Bag for those who don't like tank bags!

The Buckin’ Roll Tank Bag consists of three components, which can be used individually or in any combination: harness, center Tool Pouch case and Pannier Pockets.

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The new Buckin' Roll is available in two configurations: COMPLETE and CENTER ONLY. The photos above are the COMPLETE option, which includes two 2-liter Pannier Pockets.
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Here's the CENTER ONLY option:
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The Buckin' Roll Tank Bag - CENTER ONLY option is just the ticket for carrying a few small essentials.
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We're in the process of getting our website update, but in the meantime, the 2014 Buckin' Roll Tank Bag is available in our webshop in both the CENTER ONLY and COMPLETE configurations.

If you're concerned about scuffing or scratching bodywork or plastics, get a package of Giant Loop's Vinyl Protective Film and install it beneath the Tank Bag's contact surfaces.

mollydog 23 Jan 2014 04:59

I notice many GL users use multiple stuff sacks to place inside the GL bag.
In the beginning of a long ride I waste a hell of a time looking for items and don't know what is in which bag. Also, in the first two weeks on the road I'm continually moving stuff around ... which makes it worse ... I go crazy. :eek3:

Have you guys thought of a way to make a CLEAR stuff sack ... or at least something with a clear plastic panel in it ... so I can SEE what is inside each bag?

And it's not just "the old guys" with this problem ... even young guys I travel with have trouble ... and I spend tons of time watching (and waiting) while they dig through various stuff sacks to find some obscure item. This is the problem with the basic "everything in one compartment" duffel type bag.

I eventually "learn" my "system" ... but the "learning curve" would be faster if I could see what is in each individual stuff sack.
Who knows? Maybe an opportunity for yet another useful product ... ? ... or not? doh

OlafofOregon 28 Jan 2014 22:07

Organizing Kit
 
Thank you for the great suggestions and questions!:thumbup1:

Yes, I completely agree. It always takes me a couple days of travel - packing, unpacking and repacking a few times - to get the kit all organized. Amazing how it all "shrinks" after a couple rounds, as you become better at packing everything.

Great suggestion on the clear. I've used clear vinyl roll-top dry bags for whitewater rafting and fishing trips - it is really handy to see the gear inside.

In the meantime, we've seen customers who use a permanent marker to number their Stuff Sacks or Dry Pods. Some even save a packing list on their phone or a piece of paper in their tank bag, so they can quickly check which bag has the desired piece of kit.

I always pack the same way, so I know mostly which bag to pull out:

Lower Left = tools, tubes, etc. (this is the part I hope I never have to get out!)
Lower Right = cook kit, stove, fuel
Middle = clothing, toiletries
Dry Bag = sleeping bag pad
Dry Bag = tent/poles
(or all of it in one single large Dry Bag)
Tank Bag = wallet, phone, camera, sunscreen, lip balm, snacks, lens kit, etc.

With GL's double-ended roll top Dry Bags, it's handy to pack items you want to reach close to the ends. The bags don't have to be unstrapped to access gear from either end.

One of the key drivers of our design development is continuing to expand our Adventure Proof Packing Systems with more modular, customizable components, to give each ride the ability to pack and organize their kit according to their own needs.

I hope this helps a little.

Cheers!
Harold





Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 451474)
I notice many GL users use multiple stuff sacks to place inside the GL bag.
In the beginning of a long ride I waste a hell of a time looking for items and don't know what is in which bag. Also, in the first two weeks on the road I'm continually moving stuff around ... which makes it worse ... I go crazy. :eek3:

Have you guys thought of a way to make a CLEAR stuff sack ... or at least something with a clear plastic panel in it ... so I can SEE what is inside each bag?

And it's not just "the old guys" with this problem ... even young guys I travel with have trouble ... and I spend tons of time watching (and waiting) while they dig through various stuff sacks to find some obscure item. This is the problem with the basic "everything in one compartment" duffel type bag.

I eventually "learn" my "system" ... but the "learning curve" would be faster if I could see what is in each individual stuff sack.
Who knows? Maybe an opportunity for yet another useful product ... ? ... or not? doh


mollydog 29 Jan 2014 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 452250)
One of the key drivers of our design development is continuing to expand our Adventure Proof Packing Systems with more modular, customizable components, to give each rider the ability to pack and organize their kit according to their own needs.
I hope this helps a little.

Cheers!
Harold

Harold,
Thanks for the response and good ideas! I like modular, customizable components too ... and that is why I've not gone with GL bags ... as of yet.

My more traditional Nelson-Rigg panniers have various internal compartments & pouches to separate and better organize items. Also keeps things from rubbing together and turning hard items into powder as happens so frequently with metal boxes on washboard sections.

As mentioned, ALL IN ONE Duffels make organization tough (for me!) LOTS of little stuff sacks. I have tried different colors & numbers ... not great for me. Paper Lists last one day. :nono:

With panniers I learn where things are (eventually) ... because I can SEE most everything immediately upon opening the pannier. (visual is good) doh

I use Inner bag liners. They help with quick unload at Hotels. My GL buddies spend 10 minutes unstrapping the GL bag from the bike and have to carry the whole thing in. I grab my two inner bags and top duffel, and I'm off.
Panniers stay on the bike with only a few low dollar items left behind. I don't use a tank bag ... just a Camel Back with storage pouches.
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Wolfman dry bag sits on plywood platform .. too big. Will be cut down to size. (Previously carried bigger duffel for camping) Upcoming ride involves no camping ... so trying smaller 33 liter Wolfman dry bag.

The Nelson-Rigg's seem BIG on my DR650 ..but are nearly empty.:clap:
I guess that's good? not overloading gives room to store stuff or carry food and beer! bier

Panniers: I keep heavy stuff down low & forward, all clothes in Wolfman Dry bag. I'm using small/light Happy Trails racks to keep panniers off the pipe. (not shown in pic)

I've had friends with GL's catch fire on two occasions ... when bag shifted. So I guess there is some expertise involved in mounting GL's to the bike. My buddies GL bag would kind of "slouch" to one side (over time), eventually resting on the hot pipe. We caught it early so no great damage.
Has to be cinched down TIGHT. (crushing anything inside)

My panniers move a bit too on rough terrain, but really no place for them to go, no probs so far. (55,000 miles on this bike)

GL bags seem well suited on dirt bikes with no sub frame and carrying a very light load.

But my Suzuki DR650 has a very strong rear sub frame, so no worries loading it up. It won't break if not too overloaded. (Suzuki claim it's designed to carry a 120 lbs. pillion)

Cheers! bier

OlafofOregon 30 Jan 2014 19:05

Rubber Boa Straps in Dirt Rider magazine's Gear Bag
 
Giant Loop Rubber Boa Straps: $25. Specifically designed to hook onto dirt bike fenders, now there is no excuse to not have that spare tube, tool pack or submarine sandwich.” – Dirt Rider magazine, March 2014
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OlafofOregon 31 Jan 2014 20:01

2-Up Riders: 20% Off Fort Rock Top Case
 
Great news for riders who carry a passenger AND two people's gear on their motorcycles. Giant Loop's popular Fort Rock Top Case has been reduced in price 20%. Big savings on this big 84-liter carry-all. Passengers love it!:thumbup1:

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Here's what BMW Motorcycle magazine has to say:
“Rear Luggage Bag: While traveling light is always preferred, there are times when light just isn’t an option. This is especially true when [riding 2-up and carrying two riders' gear,] camping or traveling for extended periods. That’s where the Giant Loop Fort Rock Top Case comes in.”

“It’s a U-shaped bag that will sit on the [rear] luggage rack and wraps forward around the passenger onto your saddlebags. The bag is made from a ‘super tough trucker’s tarp Bomb Shell™.’ The bag is a huge 85.5 liters and includes two built-in handles for carrying off the bike. There are two exterior mesh pockets at the front conveniently located for the rider or passenger. Thoughtful touches are the storm flap covering the zipper and reflective trim around the bag.”

“Following the instructions with the case, I used the included dual sided hook-and-loop strap to attach the bag at six points on the luggage rack [tail rack] and rack side supports. Once I shifter the bag a few times, settled on the exact mounting location and tightened the hook-and-loop straps, the finale was to tighten down the load on all three sides with my own nylon straps and Fastex™ buckles.” [Note: Giant Loop recommends Rok Straps, Pronghorn Straps and the cam-lock straps on the Siskiyou Panniers as additional stability for off-road riding.]

“My enthusiasm for the Fort Rock Top Case hasn’t changed over the first few trips. For flexibility I pack using my waterproof Giant Loop Great Basin Dry Pods. The case gives me plenty of room up high for lightweight items like the clothing, jacket liners and sleeping bags, while saving saddlebag space down low and forward for heavy items like tools and canned goods. And as an added benefit, when packed with soft goods the case makes a comfy backrest and secure cushion on three sides when you carry a passenger.”

— “On- & Off- Road Test: 2013 R1200GS Second Opinion- Multi-Tool Versatility,” BMW Motorcycle Magazine, Fall 2013

OlafofOregon 3 Feb 2014 22:02

Introducing Giant Loop's New Canadian Distributor
 
Big news for our closest export market. Take off, eh?!:D

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Giant Loop Expands Canada Distribution With Motonation Canada


Established Power Sports Distributor Provides Coast-To-Coast Representation


(BEND, OR, USA) Adventure-proof packing systems innovator Giant Loop has appointed Motonation Canada as its international distributor in Canada. Headed by power sports veterans Syl and Shawna Marleau and Vince Harker, formerly Klim distributor in Canada as DCI Sales, Motonation Canada imports and distributes top motorcycle exclusive brands such as Sidi, Forcefield, AGV Sports, Vemar, Powerlet, Mefo Tires as well as Rox Risers and Techniche.

Bilingual Canadian French/English speaker Marleau manages dealer sales for Motonation. Previously, he was Klim Canada’s Eastern Canada sales manager, Powerlet Canada distributor/sales manager, and he previously worked as district sales manager for Yamaha Motor Canada for 12 years. He created the brand image for KLIM in Eastern Canada. Marleau is based in Keswick, Ontario.

Shawna Marleau manages eastern operations, supporting Syl, who is on the road visiting dealers throughout the year.

Former owner of DCI Sales, Harker founded the company in 1995. He is business manager for Motonation Canada and is based in Magrath, Alberta.

To schedule a Giant Loop product line dealer clinic, contact:
Syl Marleau, Motonation Canada, at (289) 231-5482
Shawna Marleau, Motonation Canada, at (289) 231-5295
Vince Harker, Motonation Canada, at (403) 758-6600

Giant Loop’s adventure-proof motorcycle gear packing systems are available from select international distributors, as well as from a network of premium dealers throughout the USA. Giant Loop designs and tests products in Bend, Oregon and manufactures everything in the USA (except for the Canadian made Pronghorn Straps). For all the details, go to www.giantloopmoto.com.

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Giant Loop® and the GL® logo are registered trademarks of Giant Loop LLC.

RonSJC 4 Feb 2014 18:25

offer still available?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 430441)
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To give back to our motorcycling community and the many volunteers who help make racing and group riding events possible, Giant Loop produced a special limited edition MEDIC version of our top-selling MoJavi Saddlebag, with high-visibility yellow construction and graphics to immediately identify designated medical support riders. The MEDIC MoJavi Saddlebags are available free of charge to qualifying volunteers and event organizers.
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Events of 50 or more riders qualify, as well as individual volunteers who work two or more events per year. Quantities are VERY limited, and saddlebags will be awarded on a first-come-first-served basis to qualifying requests. Message us here to apply.:santa:

Hi! I know this is an old post, but I wanted to know if this offer is still available? I'm the Dealer Liaison Coordinator for the Southern California Mountains Foundation OHV program. We are a non profit and volunteers patrol over 800 miles of off highway roads and trails on our Dual Sport bikes for the National Forest. We also run sweep for numerous events for AMA District 37 when they have rides on the Forest.

Thanks!
Ron

OlafofOregon 4 Feb 2014 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonSJC (Post 453209)
Hi! I know this is an old post, but I wanted to know if this offer is still available? I'm the Dealer Liaison Coordinator for the Southern California Mountains Foundation OHV program. We are a non profit and volunteers patrol over 800 miles of off highway roads and trails on our Dual Sport bikes for the National Forest. We also run sweep for numerous events for AMA District 37 when they have rides on the Forest.

Thanks!
Ron

Hi Ron - Yes, we have more MEDIC MoJavi Saddlebags available. Please fill out this form and return to it to us. And thank you for your service! Cheers, Harold

OlafofOregon 21 Feb 2014 01:30

Giant Loop's Fandango Tank Bag PRO awarded Powersports Business "Nifty 50"
 
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Giant Loop's new 2014 Fandango Tank Bag PRO was just selected as one of the top 50 new products by Powersports Business News.:D

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Solcat 21 Feb 2014 09:08

Mojavi bags
 
Thought I'd chime in with my 2¢ worth on my 2nd post this time around on the Hubb. I have the Mojavi and have found them to be incredible. Loaded with tools/first aid, etc., I hardly know they are there. Tough and seem waterproof so far. On our last ride, there were 2 Mojavi and one Coyote and all were well liked. Can't say I've used the bigger ones though.

I have to say what prompted me to post my positive review was actually that I sent Giant Loop a question after my last ride and got a reply with a picture of Harold's bike with the Mojavi on it configured with the exact solution I was asking about. That is some pretty nice personal support!

Thanks :)

OlafofOregon 3 Mar 2014 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solcat (Post 455368)
Thought I'd chime in with my 2¢ worth on my 2nd post this time around on the Hubb. I have the Mojavi and have found them to be incredible. Loaded with tools/first aid, etc., I hardly know they are there. Tough and seem waterproof so far. On our last ride, there were 2 Mojavi and one Coyote and all were well liked. Can't say I've used the bigger ones though.

I have to say what prompted me to post my positive review was actually that I sent Giant Loop a question after my last ride and got a reply with a picture of Harold's bike with the Mojavi on it configured with the exact solution I was asking about. That is some pretty nice personal support!

Thanks :)

Thank you! Post up some pics when you get the chance! bier

OlafofOregon 3 Mar 2014 17:06

Ghana to Ireland
 
From customer Stephanie: "trip from Ghana (west-Africa) to Ireland April last year. Coyote saddlebag kit and Fandango tank bank withstood the test"
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Tiffany 4 Mar 2014 07:13

Giant Loop Fan Club
 
Giant Loop also gets a seal of approval from the animal world

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That was the praying mantis, closely followed by the green chameleon

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markharf 4 Mar 2014 09:52

The chameleon is cute, but not very adept at fading into the background. Enjoying your trip reports immensely, Tiffany. Thanks!

Mark

OlafofOregon 7 Mar 2014 23:49

Dream2Ride.com Ride Across Central Asia
 
Check out Dream2Ride.com's epic ride across Asia!

Pakistan
http://dream2ride.com/images/stories...2/dsc03858.jpg

Tajikistan
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Iran
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Turkey
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And more . . .

OlafofOregon 11 Mar 2014 02:05

Giant Loop company profile in ADV Moto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiffany (Post 456861)
Giant Loop also gets a seal of approval from the animal world

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That was the praying mantis, closely followed by the green chameleon

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Thanks Tiffany! Have you seen the March/April issue of ADV Moto magazine?
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/publi...uuTvy9nKp80YkA

OlafofOregon 12 Mar 2014 22:56

vote for "MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURE IN KYRGYSTAN" in Sony vidoe competition
 
Support adventure motorcyclist and videographer David Darcy's entry by voting for his submission in the Sony Production Awards, "MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURE IN KYRGYSTAN"!

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/GL%20...L7NZ40oR8mdu8Q

This is an excerpt from Darcy's hour long documentary "Continental Drift" about his and Darren Higgins's London to Sydney motorcycle adventure.

L84toff 27 Mar 2014 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 452642)
Great news for riders who carry a passenger AND two people's gear on their motorcycles. Giant Loop's popular Fort Rock Top Case has been reduced in price 20%. Big savings on this big 84-liter carry-all. Passengers love it!:thumbup1:


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Thinking of putting this on the back of a Tiger Explorer 1200. Does anyone know if this requires a separate rear rack or can it sit on the stock rear rack?

OlafofOregon 2 Apr 2014 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by L84toff (Post 459951)
Thinking of putting this on the back of a Tiger Explorer 1200. Does anyone know if this requires a separate rear rack or can it sit on the stock rear rack?

Hello -

Sorry about the slow reply. The Fort Rock Top Case should work just fine with your stock tail rack - AND panniers supporting the sides. We have a limited quantity left and we're no longer producing this bag - it's now 50% off on our site. For passengers it's super comfy.

Alternatively, Giant Loop's 100% waterproof Rogue Dry Bag (17 liters) and Tillamook Dry Bag (38 liters) can be used in combinations to achieve much the same functionality. Plus, the double-ended design means gear can be accessed without unstrapping it from the bike.

Thanks for the question. Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out for you!

Cheers,
Harold
owner/co-founder
Giant Loop

L84toff 2 Apr 2014 22:19

Giant Loop
 
Thanks for following up Harold. We had actually already ordered one online. Was initially going with a 55L top case with a dry bag on top of that, but my wife thinks this may be more comfortable for her, I also think this may be lighter than what I was thinking about. And of course at less than half the price of the top case, my wife didn't have any problems convincing me. I'll let you know more once I get my hands on it.

Mark

OlafofOregon 7 Apr 2014 20:48

"Over Weigh Is Under Prepared" by Dave Lomax
 
"Over Weigh Is Under Prepared"!!!!!!!! Couldn't agree more. It's like the famous quote about the lengthy letter: "I have made this letter longer than usual because I have not had time to make it shorter."bier
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Good post from Dave Lomax of Adventure Spec.

mollydog 8 Apr 2014 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461204)
"Over Weigh Is Under Prepared"!!!!!!!! Couldn't agree more. It's like the famous quote about the lengthy letter: "I have made this letter longer than usual because I have not had time to make it shorter."bier
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Good post from Dave Lomax of Adventure Spec.

"Classic" pic. Great photo shop work! Perfect T shirt promo pic or poster for your business! "WHY GIANT LOOP?"

'nuff said.

Odd thing is ... I'd guess over half the riders out there doing RTW rides are still using these big, heavy boxes. Too Much IS Too Much! (IMO of course)

So I guess Tiffany will be using GL bags on her big BMW R1200 GS on her next Tour Guide gig? .... and of course, all the customer bikes too?
:mchappy:

OlafofOregon 8 Apr 2014 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461236)
So I guess Tiffany will be using GL bags on her big BMW R1200 GS on her next Tour Guide gig? .... and of course, all the customer bikes too?
:mchappy:

Tiffany doesn't get to choose usually on the tour trips - but the customers can (and a couple have) opted to go with Giant Loop instead of hard luggage.

Go light. Go fast. Go Far.

Cheers,
Harold

OlafofOregon 8 Apr 2014 21:45

BMW Owners News: Giant Loop Siskiyou Panniers Review
 
Thanks BMW ON magazine for including Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers in the April issue's soft luggage round up! :D
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Here's the intro:
"I have been using the Giant Loop Siskiyou Panniers for nearly two years now, since the first prototypes on a two-week trip through Death Valley, Mojave, Joshua Tree and Anza Borrego. The finished product saw action in Baja, on the Oregon Backcountry Discovery Route (OBDR) and Washington Backcountry Discover Route (WABDR), and scouting the future Idaho Backcountry Discovery Route (IDBDR), as well as countless other trips and rallies. The Siskiyous have become my "go to" bags for adventure riding. Compared to hard bags and racks, they are positively light! Compare KTM's Gobi boxes and racks at 37 lb. to the Siskiyous' 9 lb., delivered with two inner waterproof bags and two heat shields."

mollydog 9 Apr 2014 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461292)
Tiffany doesn't get to choose usually on the tour trips - but the customers can (and a couple have) opted to go with Giant Loop instead of hard luggage.

Go light. Go fast. Go Far.

Cheers,
Harold

Maybe not quite there yet ... pic below lifted from Tiffany's fabulous S. America ride report on ADV:
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Her ride report:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...hlight=Tiffany

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461315)
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"... delivered with two inner waterproof bags and two heat shields.

I like the idea of removable inner bags on your Siskyou bags ... but $700 out my range. Good thing you're locked in the the KTM/BMW guys. $$$$$ I ride a Suzuki. Suzuki riders use 2nd hand trash bags for luggage and can't afford chase vehicles or Valets.

Seems to me Tiffany could use some inner bags on her rig. I figured this problem out on my first long ride with hard bags ... 25 years ago. I never take my bags off the bike (hard or soft) Waste of time and last thing you want to do in 100F heat at end of long riding day. INNER bags RULE! :D
Here is Tiffany hard at it ... again!
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OlafofOregon 10 Apr 2014 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461336)
I ride a Suzuki. Suzuki riders use 2nd hand trash bags for luggage and can't afford chase vehicles or Valets.

Most people don't reach very far for their ideas and are happy to go with the known, familiar and old ideas - but we're winning converts every day all over the world.
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Check out this video of two riders in South America - she's on a Suzuki DR 350.

I've ridden old Hondas most of my life, so I hear what you're saying.

What kind of Suzuki do you ride?

We have lots of luggage options for most of the Suzuki line. And while they may cost more than trash bags, they're a heck of a lot less than virtually any hard box/luggage rack set, and they'll give you years of trouble-free riding.

El Forko 11 Apr 2014 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461564)
Most people don't reach very far for their ideas and are happy to go with the known, familiar and old ideas - but we're winning converts every day all over the world.
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Check out this video of two riders in South America - she's on a Suzuki DR 350.

I've ridden old Hondas most of my life, so I hear what you're saying.

What kind of Suzuki do you ride?

We have lots of luggage options for most of the Suzuki line. And while they may cost more than trash bags, they're a heck of a lot less than virtually any hard box/luggage rack set, and they'll give you years of trouble-free riding.

I'm the guy with the sandwich in my mouth! I don't want to sound like a GL marketing agent, but just to put things in context... My girlfriend has only been riding for 6 months, and saw dirt for the first time about 5 weeks ago. I bought a Great Basin for her to use on her DR200, and it has turned out to be perfect for her. She's riding really comfortably on dirt now, and I am sure that the Great Basin is a big part - the DR200 is a very light bike but it is handling very well loaded up - very sympathetic for a new rider.

I'm a GL convert. I've ridden with hard and other soft panniers, and the Siskiyous are superb.

mollydog 11 Apr 2014 20:41

Very positive endorsement! Can you tell us what you paid for your GL Panniers and the Great Basin bag?

Big ups to your girl riding the interiors of Peru'. Nice vid! :D

I notice in your vid her lugging the bag and putting it up onto her bike. How long does it take to mount and dismount the bag? How many straps to deal with? Has it ever come loose or fallen off?

I'm a fan of removable inner bags which allow panniers to stay on bike.
Do you have any problems getting to items in the very bottom of that big duffle? How have you solved this problem?

:mchappy: Safe riding! bier

mollydog 11 Apr 2014 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461564)
Most people don't reach very far for their ideas and are happy to go with the known, familiar and old ideas - but we're winning converts every day all over the world.

I'm always looking for good ideas ... "new" or otherwise. Most who claim a "new" idea in fact have merely recycled (or stolen) an old idea. At the same time I'm not confident enough to believe I have re-invented the wheel! :smartass:

Some of us are not new to motor bike travel and have tried a few things over the years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 461564)
I've ridden old Hondas most of my life, so I hear what you're saying.

What kind of Suzuki do you ride?

We have lots of luggage options for most of the Suzuki line. And while they may cost more than trash bags, they're a heck of a lot less than virtually any hard box/luggage rack set, and they'll give you years of trouble-free riding.

Hondas? yea, me too! I rode my Honda 50 step through from Oaxaca down to Lago Atitlan in 1973. (long story)

You can see my Rat Bike DR650 Suzuki on this thread ... go back to post #59. My last Honda was a XR250. XR400 and XR650L before that. Going way back, my '87 XL600R made several Baja rides ... and broke down on one of them. :thumbdown:

OlafofOregon 17 Apr 2014 02:15

You're right! These ideas are older than the wheel perhaps . . . bier
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Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461693)
I'm always looking for good ideas ... "new" or otherwise. Most who claim a "new" idea in fact have merely recycled (or stolen) an old idea. At the same time I'm not confident enough to believe I have re-invented the wheel! :smartass:


OlafofOregon 17 Apr 2014 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
Very positive endorsement! Can you tell us what you paid for your GL Panniers and the Great Basin bag?

USA suggested retail for 2014:

Siskiyou Panniers (including 2 waterproof roll top inner liner bags + 2 laser cut aluminum heat shields and stainless steel clamps) $700 USD MSRP

Great Basin Saddlebag (including a set of 3 waterproof roll top inner bags + 1 laser cut aluminum heat shield and stainless steel clamp) $450 USD MSRP

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
How long does it take to mount and dismount the bag?

It's a little faster coming off than going on, but I'd say less than five minutes, after you've done it a couple of times. What do you think El Forko?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
How many straps to deal with?

Great Basin - 2 side mounting straps (attach to passenger peg mounts), 1-3 rear mounting straps (depending on available attachment points - 1 is adequate).

Siskiyou Panniers - 2 side mounting straps (attach to passenger peg mounts), 1-3 rear mounting D-ring attachments, plus webbing daisy chains on the wheel side. Many and various mounting options - the more points of contact the more stable (stabile?).

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
Has it ever come loose or fallen off?

Our friends and customers have ridden on the most extreme adventures on every continent but Antarctica (anyone?), and as far as we know our bags have never fallen off - even in crashes. They will come loose if improperly mounted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
I'm a fan of removable inner bags which allow panniers to stay on bike.

So are we! Our Coyote Saddlebag, Great Basin Saddlebag and Siskiyou Panniers all include waterproof roll top inner bags. The Great Basin Saddlebag and Siskiyou Panniers can also be locked to the bike, with pass-throughs built into the bags and any cable/lock. But in more than five years, I know of only one customer who has had a bag stolen. It's Terrence Tay from Singapore - and he's riding around Asia right now with our bags on his bike!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
Do you have any problems getting to items in the very bottom of that big duffle? How have you solved this problem?

Our Tillamook Dry Bag and Rogue Dry Bag are double end, so you can access gear from either end - without unstrapping the bag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
:mchappy: Safe riding! bier

Are you coming on our 3rd Annual Giant Loop Ride?:thumbup1:

mollydog 17 Apr 2014 18:31

I like the doubled ended access for your bags! :thumbup1:

I remember my riding buddies struggled to dig down deep to find something at bottom end of the loop. Took them quite a while to unpack/repack bags and get it all balanced, then get it strapped down. About 20 minutes usually on our last 8 day ride camping.

They had only used the GL's on two previous rides so were still learning the systems and working things out ... as we all do on a ride. As mentioned earlier, none fell off but one did come loose, burnt a bit on pipe.

I'm sure Mr. Pitchfork is busy riding Peru' or Bolivia! bier
I'm following the blog, great stuff. I'd love to hear more comments regards my previous post.

:scooter:

OlafofOregon 18 Apr 2014 23:37

Size comparison: Rogue Dry Bag v. Tillamook Dry Bag
 
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Tarp, bivy sack, sleeping pad, aluminum stakes and parachute cord. Total weight 4.2 lbs.

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Tarp, bivy sack, sleeping pad, aluminum stakes and parachute cord packed inside Rogue Dry Bag (17 L) - with lots of room to spare.

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Uncompressed synthetic fill sleeping bag with tape measure for scale.

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Tarp, bivy sack, sleeping pad, aluminum stakes, parachute cord, uncompressed sleeping bag in Tillamook Dry Bag (38 L) - with plenty of room to spare.

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On the thumper, my sleeping bag usually goes in the center Dry Pod inside the Coyote Saddlebag, and my other kit goes in Rogue strapped on with the compression straps.

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On the big bike, my sleeping bag and pad go in one Rogue Dry Bag and tent/poles go in a second Rogue (I like to keep my sleeping bag away from my wet tent or tarp).

OlafofOregon 21 Apr 2014 20:41

Giant Loop Comparison Chart and Bike Type Quick Links
 
Not sure which Giant Loop gear is the best fit your riding needs and bike type?

Here's a handy comparison chart for our 2014 Adventure Proof Packing Systems - click here for PDF.

We also added "Shop By Bike Type" quick links on our homepage. Of course, much or our gear is virtually universal in fitment, and many bags designed for the "dirt, dual sport, enduro" category work great on big adventure touring machines - and vice versa - but they may require a little ingenuity and improvisation for proper installation.

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DIRT, DUAL SPORT, ENDURO
• Buckin' Roll Tank Bag
(Complete + Center Only)
• Bushwackers Hand Guards
• Coyote Saddlebag
• Diablo Tank Bag
(Pro + Standard)
• Hot Springs Heat Shield
• MoJavi Saddlebag
• Pronghorn Straps
• Pannier Pockets
• Possibles Pouch
• Rubber Boa Straps
• Rogue Dry Bag
• Vinyl Protective Film
• Zigzag Handlebar Bag

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ADVENTURE TOURING, ROAD
• Fandango Tank Bag
(Pro + Standard)
• Great Basin Saddlebag
• Hot Springs Heat Shield
• Pronghorn Straps
• Pannier Pockets
• Possibles Pouch
• Siskiyou Panniers
• Rogue Dry Bag
• Vinyl Protective Film
• Zigzag Handlebar Bag

vertical_c 21 Apr 2014 22:20

Just a note about my Giant loop great basin.

Bought it brand new for a trip in South America, it didn't actually start well when I got to Quito found that one of the airlines had put a hole in it. About half cm. Might be wise to wrap it in plastic. Also the airlines want to call it oversize but they didn't charge so meh.

After this I managed to catch one of the straps in the chain. Don't let them flap.

Otherwise it's been good for10000 kms. Not leaking even with the hole. Though I do use compression bags just to make sure and to keep my gear tight.

Makesthe klr hhandle well. I rode friends klr with cases and theirs was so squirrelly compared to mine with the front planted.

With the price compared to hard bags and the ease of carrying I am happy.

El Forko 22 Apr 2014 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 461688)
Very positive endorsement! Can you tell us what you paid for your GL Panniers and the Great Basin bag?

Big ups to your girl riding the interiors of Peru'. Nice vid! :D

I notice in your vid her lugging the bag and putting it up onto her bike. How long does it take to mount and dismount the bag? How many straps to deal with? Has it ever come loose or fallen off?

I'm a fan of removable inner bags which allow panniers to stay on bike.
Do you have any problems getting to items in the very bottom of that big duffle? How have you solved this problem?

:mchappy: Safe riding! bier

Hey Mollydog. Sorry for the silence. We've just finished a 10-day retreat up in the mountains with no internet.

Harold has covered costs. I bought my Siskiyous in UK and the GB in Chile - more expensive than the US.

The primary reason I switched to the Siskiyous was I wanted soft panniers which were quick to mount and dismount. My other soft panniers were fiddly to mount if I wanted a good fit - and I take them off regularly when I stay in hostels, for security and sometimes so I can drive the bike through front doors to park inside. I'd say it takes me 2-3 minutes to mount and dismount both the Siskiyous and the GB - very straightforward. In each case we're talking two straps at the bottom on to the pillion pegs, and two at the back on to the luggage rack.

Paulina and I have both crash-tested the bags. Paulina came off in sand doing about 80kph and bent the bike (see the latest video I just posted, blog address below), but the GB stayed attached and was barely scratched. I came off when I hit a ditch, nose-dived and went over the bars - two of the plastic d-rings broke but the bags stayed put, again without so much as a scratch. We've both been riding on a lot of rough dirt tracks and I don't feel any movement at all with the bags.

I wish I could just pull out the wp inners of my Siskiyous when I park up, but in reality replacing them when full of gear is difficult due to the bulging effect. If I do remove the wp inners, when replacing them I have to empty them and repack separate items so it all fits in snuggly. Paulina doesn't have the GL inner bag set for her GB, which makes things more awkward (hence why she removes the bag every time). I intend to get a set in due course, which will help packing a lot.

Worth noting I have a Diablo tank bag too - I love it, super easy to put on and off, and so convenient when gassing up - just unzip it on two sides and flip it over.

OlafofOregon 28 Apr 2014 21:30

New Giant Loop Team Wear: "Go Light. Go Fast. Go Far" T-Shirts
 
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New Giant Loop t-shirt design! Original illustration by Chuck Moser, inspired by a 2014 Tuareg Rallye photo by Jenny Morgan (aka Jenny Dakar).
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Available in quick drying poly t-shirt (long sleeve) and 100% cotton short sleeve styles.

http://giantloopmoto.com/wp-content/...GLTG-front.jpg
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OlafofOregon 27 May 2014 23:02

Buckin' Roll Tank Bag in Dirt Bike Magazine
 
:D
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Dirt Bike magazine's June issue sums up the Buckin' Roll Tank Bag: "BOTTOM LINE: If you're one of those riders that has issues with a conventional tank or tail bag, the Giant Loop Buckin' Roll system may be the hot ticket. It's the least intrusive bag going today. It would make a nice addition to a tail bag or backpack, and while the $235 price tag gets your attention, the ability to cover some ground on your machine and carry enough goods to survive without killing the handling of the machine makes the Giant Loop Buckin' Roll a focused and positive adventure/dual-sport product."

El Forko 28 May 2014 00:29

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Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 467773)
:D
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Dirt Bike magazine's June issue sums up the Buckin' Roll Tank Bag: "BOTTOM LINE: If you're one of those riders that has issues with a conventional tank or tail bag, the Giant Loop Buckin' Roll system may be the hot ticket. It's the least intrusive bag going today. It would make a nice addition to a tail bag or backpack, and while the $235 price tag gets your attention, the ability to cover some ground on your machine and carry enough goods to survive without killing the handling of the machine makes the Giant Loop Buckin' Roll a focused and positive adventure/dual-sport product."

Harold - any chance of a photo of the Buckin' Roll side pouches being used in conjunction with Fandango / Diablo TB? Might be a tidier solution than my Wolfman tank bags.

Paul

OlafofOregon 4 Jul 2014 01:44

Pannier Pockets � Giant Loop
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Forko (Post 467781)
Harold - any chance of a photo of the Buckin' Roll side pouches being used in conjunction with Fandango / Diablo TB? Might be a tidier solution than my Wolfman tank bags.

Paul

Hey Paul! Sorry about the slow reply - I've been doing some traveling myself. Went to Norway for a week-long dirt roads tour with a colleague from Sweden. What a fantastically beautiful country!

Here's a pic from my February trip to Baja, Mexico:
http://giantloop.smugmug.com/Motorcy...GOPR0661-L.jpg
I'm using the Pannier Pockets with the Diablo Tank Bag PRO. The fitment should be somewhat similar on your 660.

OlafofOregon 17 Jul 2014 20:52

Siskiyou Panniers on Dirt Rider Magazine's 2014 Kawasaki KLR650
 
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Thanks Dirt Rider Magazine for running Giant Loop's Siskiyou Panniers in the 2014 Kawasaki KLR650 test bike feature!bier

Can you do this on your fully loaded bike?
http://www.dirtrider.com/wp-content/...7/BM2J5886.jpg

http://www.dirtrider.com/wp-content/...7/BM2J6473.jpg

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OlafofOregon 18 Jul 2014 17:54

Video: "The Way We Roll 4" - Horca Moto's Adventure in South America
 
Here's a video that will put a smile on your face. We always say that whoever is having the most fun is the winner, which means Paul and Paula are definitely WINNING in South America! :clap

Click here for "The Way We Roll 4"!

He’s got the Siskiyou Panniers, Diablo Tank Bag and Tillamook Dry Bag on his Yamaha Tenere 660, and she’s got the Great Basin Saddlebag and Rogue Dry Bag on her Suzuki DR350.

Follow their adventures at Horca Moto!

OlafofOregon 22 Jul 2014 19:53

Giant Loop Crash Bar Bags
 
1 package of 20" Pronghorn Straps + 1 Possibles Pouch = Giant Loop Crash Bar Bag!
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This is where I keep my spare 21" front tube. On the other side, I carry tools.

L84toff 22 Jul 2014 21:20

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Originally Posted by OlafofOregon (Post 473891)
1 package of 20" Pronghorn Straps + 1 Possibles Pouch = Giant Loop Crash Bar Bag!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...bc0de3819b497f

This is where I keep my spare 21" front tube. On the other side, I carry tools.


I actually picked one of these up along with the boa straps. Loved that little bag while it lasted...although I have no idea how, sadly one day it managed to fall off my front fender along with its contents on our current trip. It was definitely not over weight or anything and seemed to be on pretty snug.

We're doing about 99% paved and were fully loaded so not like we're going over rough terrain.

Kind of a PITA losing everything inside, not to mention $75. Also it did not keep anything inside dry. I realize it's not advertised as such, but just thought I would mention it. It worked well for what I used it for until it disappeared. My guess is the Boa straps were to blame. We're riding a Tiger Explorer if that makes a difference. It might work better with the Pronghorn straps possibly.

My Fandango Pro talk bag on the other hand is a champ. Contents stay dry with exception of prolonged downpours. Highly recommended.


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