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I just found out that in a XT600Z service information it clearly states 0.25-0.75mm big-end clearance, while in the XT600 EAC 1990 service manual it states 0.35-0.65mm. I thought the 600 engine core (crank, piston etc.) was pretty much identical for all models. Does someone have any idea?
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do a dry mount of the crank in cases, button them up and see if it turns freely to be sure |
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I just found out the big-end pin is now touching the bearing: https://i.imgur.com/025zrDM.jpg My understanding is that the bearing should be placed all the way against the crankshaft, although there will be some clearance because of a small shoulder that prevents the inner race of the bearing from going any further. Correct? Either way, it's now rubbing against the pin as you can see in the picture... so I brought it back to be adjusted.. if possible:rolleyes2: (i've already removed the timing gear). |
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havent changed a left bearing in a while and too many other motors open to remeber, but a crank that i have here has a good 2.4 distance between pin and bearing
im afraid there should be a washer between bearing and crank, the parts list wil not show it because its one assy no way a few tenths mistake would cancel a 2.4mm gap.. |
had a look in better light, not sure it's a washer. it might be that the bearing should have no radius so it stops at the shoulder sharp. maybe you mounted a non original bearing that has a radius? then it would sit more inwards...
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There's still a gap for me, but not at the pin. The pin touches the bearing directly. I think it's the original bearing (it's a Koyo). Either way, it wasn't touching the bearing before. It's because the crank was pressed 0.6mm inwards, so the pin protrudes more and touches the bearing now. |
If service manual states 0.35-0.65mm i would for sure use it in the correct value and not hope its ok outside.. But what i find strange here is the shop you had to do this, they must have seen that the bearing touched?They maybe didnt have all parts?
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https://i.imgur.com/hBbpQNT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/G2tNjpM.jpg |
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34K-W1141-00-00 93. Crank 1 1VJ-W1141-00-00 I dont know it they had some difference spec. Anyway the bearing is not possible to move now and use again, start all over and get the gap you had before dismantle. |
even if it's 0.6 off, with a 2.4mm measured gap between pin and bearing race they shouldnt touch... it might well be that what defines the bearing position is the gear wheel and you should press the last few mm using the gear wheel as a driver so it stops at the step in diameters in the shaft. what im triyng to say is in other words that the bearing should not go all the way till the shoulder.
was there a gap between the gear wheel and bearing before you took them off? |
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I can move the bearing axially with two screwdrivers- it's very loose on the axle. I don't know what position the bearing could be other than all the way seated on the shoulder - otherwise it will just move anyway. Before I took them off, there was no gap between the timing gear and bearing, and around 0.5-1mm beween crank and bearing: https://i.imgur.com/wFHVgeI.jpg You can see the shoulder here: https://i.imgur.com/as6rFc3.jpg This was before. Now it's touching the pin every so slightly because it moved 0.6mm |
Ok i maybe missunderstood what you wrote, but when its pressed on i would think it couldnt be moved by hand.
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