Motorcycle prohibited in IRAN
 

Hi!!!
I'm planning a bike trip to Iran for mid September, I'll pass Turkey to enter Iran but when I ask for Carnet (in Italy where i live) they showed me a message where TACI (touring automobile club Iran) says that motorbike over 250cc is forbidden in Iran from 23/07/2018 also for temporary importation.
I send email to TACI that confirm, but Italian embassy says he does not know this limitation.
Has anyone crossed the border these days and can confirm if it is true?
Thanks in advance,
Gelindo

Any new regarding that?
I'm from Croatia, didn't pay for Carnet yet, but but I just read that, didn't know till today.

I heard that the German DACA also was passing along that info.

I heard that the German DACA also was also passing along that info.

ADAC has today added a new information on its website. It says: "07.08.2018: The temporary import of any kind of vehicles of an american manufacturer into Iran is forbidden." We talked to the ADAC today and have been informed that this is not a reduction of the initial restriction posted on 2 August, but that the 250cc restriction for motorcycles remains in place. The ADAC is working with the Iranian automobile club to find out more (they get calls all day on this...) and whilst they have received reports to them that people have been rejected they have reports as well that others have been admitted. We´ll be following this closely as we plan to enter Iran early September and will let you know here as soon as we hear any news.

Motorcycle prohibited in IRAN
 

Hi!!!
I'm planning a bike trip to Iran for mid September, I'll pass Turkey to enter Iran but when I ask for Carnet (in Italy where i live) they showed me a message where TACI (touring automobile club Iran) says that motorbike over 250cc is forbidden in Iran from 23/07/2018 also for temporary importation.
I send email to TACI that confirm, but Italian embassy says he does not know this limitation.
Has anyone crossed the border these days and can confirm if it is true?
Thanks in advance,
Gelindo

I don't think posting the same question every day in a different sub-forum will help you obtain the answer you are asking for.

As EO wrote in different thread, we still have no reports of people having problems.
It is high season, so we will have more reports from others soon.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-in-iran-95666

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...an-250cc-95650

Hello guys,

i have contacted the responsible ADAC-employee and he told me the following:

- the iranian trafficpolice has banned the use of motorcycles with more than 250ccm. Therefore you can probably enter Iran with your bike, but you arent allowed to use it. So if you gonna push your bike to Tehran you will probably be fine^^
- ADAC is in direct and intensive contact with its iranian counterpart on this matter. They are trying to get an explanation for this new regulation and are slightly optimistic that this new rule will be lifted in a short amount of time. He told me that there was a comparable regulation earlier ("entry with vehicles with more than 2500cc forbidden") that got revoked some weeks later.
- Furthermore ADAC told me that contacting the iranian embassy on that matter should be useless, because the embassies dont interfer/bother with customs/traffic-topics.
- "fun fact": According to ADAC this new regulation hast nothing to do with our beloved Trumpinator and his sensible politics. Sarcasm offdoh


I will wait until and watch the ADAC site closely. If there is noch change i will probably have to cancel my Iran-Tour for this year and book the 350€ i have already paid for Visa under "i love international politics":thumbdown:

Greetings from Germany

You're allowed to go through but only for 10 days max time period they treat as a transit.
I am very sure this will change in the coming time, when politics get cooled down, because they mess everything up for the benefit of few (bastards).

Cheers
Dooby

Hi, guys

Planning a trip from Russia, Moscow to Iran in the middle of September, stumbled upon this topic. Could anyone please post here any link in English? I can't find anything!

Thank you in advance

Sure, here you go: https://www.adac.de/reise_freizeit/r...ssages_en.aspx

Scroll down the center section, select the tab "News" and click on "Iran".

Druzhba! :-)

See you there in September my friend.

Cheers
Chris

Out of interest I was told about this ban when I crossed Iran in 1994 but then it either did not apply to foreign registered bikes or was ignored. The reason I was given was that several acts of terrorism had been carried out by people on larger bikes and the police could not catch them, I have no idea if this is correct or not.

Interesting. That is distinctly different from what is in the ADAC website whch says:

“August 7, 2018:
The temporary importation of any American branded vehicle into Iran is forbidden!
On August 2, 2018 ADAC received the following information:
Since July 23, 2018 the temporary importation of motorcycles with engine capacity of more than 250 CC and of American branded motorcycles is forbidden.
Since receipt of this notification, we work at high pressure to obtain more information.
As soon as we know more, we will inform you"

That clearly states it is Temporary Importation that is prohibited. Seems the employee has more recent information (than yesterday) or is misinformed.

I have been told exactly the same, that the Iranian authorities ban the sale and import of bigger bikes for this reason.

And my hunch is that the situation is basically unchanged from what you describe and this will turn out to be nothing.

Thank you!

I've got Yamaha XVS1100A, does it mean I'm able to go to Iran?

I know about the ban on riding big motorcycles, but I thought it doesn't concern tourists as Farhad says here

Дружба! :-)

What we know so far:

-This is an old rule which comes up every few years and scares people. It has never been applied to foreigners, and in years of travelling to Iran I cannot recall hearing any first-hand accounts of large motorcycles being refused (though that doesn't mean it hasn't happened).

-We have heard no first-hand, or direct second-hand reports (e.g. 'I met xx who was refused') of people being refused. Only rumours (e.g. ' xx told me that he/she heard that someone was refused')

-An Iranian citizen (on the FB Group 'Overland in Iran' has personally called the three border crossings with Turkey (Bazargan, Razi, Sero) who confirmed there is no such rule being applied.

-According to a poster here, who contacted the ADAC personally, an earlier rule about cars with engines over 2500cc being banned, has been reversed (or rather clarified as being an error, I suspect).

-This is not the EU. 'Rules' may exist, whilst not being enforced, one border may have a different interpretation of the 'rules' from another (I have personally experienced this with things such as diesel tax, transit documents, insurance requirements etc etc). A lot of Europeans have trouble accepting the fact that rules can be ignored by those that are there to uphold the law (e.g. border officials, traffic police).

-There seems to be a lot of BS regarding entering Iran with a vehicle (e.g. 'you need a carnet to enter Iran' which is wrong).

In summary, the balance of evidence suggests that there is no problem to enter Iran with any size of motorbike. And surely, this is meant to be adventure travel? If you cannot deal with uncertainty, there are great places like Europe or North America to travel in where you can plan every single day and have virtually no uncertainty with your plans.

I have no idea about the American-made motorcycle rule. I have seen plenty of American-made cars in Iran (permanently imported, though mostly before 1979). I have little interest whether Harleys are banned. If it were up to me, I would ban them from any built-up area for making such a f***ing irritating noise. It makes some sense though, with increasing US pressure and sanctions that all American-made vehicles may now be banned. Perhaps it was this change in the rules which dredged up the other other 'rules'.

So, no need to change travel plans, I feel. But the only way to be sure is to be patient and wait for reports from travellers in Iran. Remember that FB is blocked in Iran so it can take some time for people to make contact.

EO (planning to go to Iran later this year in a >2500 cc car)

Managed to enter Iran
 

Today we crossed the boarder at Bajgiran from Turkmenistan with our BMW 1200 GS. Everything fine, everybody nice. Took us about 1 hour for the Iran part, no special checks. We had our CDP issued in may (ADAC Germany), same for our 30 day tourist visa (Vienna).

Lovely greetings from Mashhad!

Hi Euroasiaoverland! thank you for this recap that will surely cool down a lot of anxiety!

I'm still saving and planning for a RTW for 2020 or so and was actually planning to get a Carnet de Passage juste because I really want to go to Iran and maybe Australia... I read all over the internet that there is no way you can enter Iran without a Carnet, and the deposit you have to make for the carnet is even bigger if you want to travel to this specific country (if the carnet is issued in France, at least.) That's pretty much the only country that require a Carnet on the route I'm planning... So I'd be very interested to know more about that! Do you have any first hand experience on this subject ?

Thank you for the summary! I absolutly agree to let things calm down and wait for more information before cancelling your long awaited travel. Furthermore i do agree on the "its an adventure, you wont have absolute certainty"-thing.

But i am planning to enter Iran via Turkmenistan and not via Turkey. Because of rather big difficulties in obtaining a touris visa for this country, i went with the 5 days transit Visa. And sitting at the iranian/turkmenian border while possibly being refused to enter Iran because of this 250ccm regulation and having no time to go back to Kazakhstan makes me feel quite uncomfortable. Even if i manage to get back to Kazakhstan in time, i only got a single entry visa for russia (which i used on my way to kazakhstan). So how to get my bike back home^^? Of course this is only an "if" scenario, but i should atleast think about it beforehand (in my opinion)...

On a sidenote: Are you serious about the Carnet not being needed for entry in Iran? Evey homepage i have been reading on and of course the ADAC himself is stating that a carnet is mandatory?

Greetings!

Some more good reports:

An italian guy I know, on a Kawasaki KLR, just exited Iran to Pakistan: he left Italy july 25th, so he definitely entered after july 23rd.
I just chatted with him: he told me nobody told him anything about his bike being >250cc

Another group of italians on big bikes were in Doğubeyazıt on august 7th: I'm pretty sure they are in Iran now. If they had any problem, they would have wrote on FB for sure.

There's a long, arguing thread on the Facebook page 'Overland Sphere', but I can't find a way to direct-link to it, so you'll need to join the page if you have not already done so, and search. The question was titled (rather prophetically) 'Q. US vehicle in Iran?'.

No, I have not done this myself, but I know a guy who has done it, and was in Iran with him and his car, for which he did not have a carnet. You can also search this site yourself and find a few stories of people who have done it. There is / was eve a guy offering to guide you through the process as it's not easy. You end up paying anything from $300 to $600 I think.

It should be said that it's better to have a carnet, makes things at the border much easier and quicker, but it is not necessary.

P.S. If you're not planning to visit Pakistan, I suggest to go (you will need a carnet though), definitely my favourite country.

Good luck,

EO

I am glad to report that at the two Iran - Turkmenistan border crossings which I have passed through, I have seen no skeletons from people who were damned to eternity in no-man's land. So you'll live!

But seriously, you'll never know this for sure. The law is there, somewhere, but nobody applies it. Things happen though, borders close due to civil unrest, epidemics, holidays, political spats. Don't leave the EU in a vehicle you're not prepared to lose.

As for the carnet, see my post above. The ADAC don't see the distinction between a rule (some useless concept written on a piece of paper somewhere) and the situation on the ground (i.e. reality).

Good luck

EO

I trust ADAC on that issue, which leaves no doubt on the subject. It´s known that you may be able to buy alternative documentation at the border if you happen to meet the right people at the right time at the right border crossing who are willing to go the extra mile with a lot of paperwork, even if you arrive without a visa, but it may take days. Paying 300$ and more beats the cost for a CDP anyways.

Cheers
Chris

Thank you Crisidsto. Perhaps it's a bit early, but I think we can put this matter to bed.

Let's say this rule is a rule, and nothing more. The Iranian authorities can't tell the ADAC 'Yes, we have this rule, but it's stupid so we don't apply it', but the reality is that they don't, so it's only a rule.

Maybe you're right, but this needs to be backed up by someone who actually has tried to get a TIP at the border and was refused.

Don't get me wrong, I have, and always will (while I can) use a carnet. But for some people it costs more than $300 (try CARS in the UK), and plenty of people will not have the money for the deposit, particularly if we start to talk about expensive vehicles.

What annoys me is the thought that there are people out there who may avoid Iran because they cannot get a carnet for one reason or another, and miss out on visiting perhaps the most interesting country in the region because technically incorrect information is spread on these forums by people who are conditioned to follow rules.

I know nothing about carnet requirements for entry into Iran. I do know a fair amount about requirements in the Americas, namely that no place requires a carnet, ever. The ADAC site claims differently (see: https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/Suedame...ext_326268.pdf, which claims inaccurately that both Colombia and Venezuela require a carnet), and this alone would make me doubt anything else they say.

Make your own choices about whose information to rely on, but best not to assume that an organization dedicated to selling you carnets will hew close to the actual facts.

Mark

I´ve never heard of anyone being told by an Iranian Customs Officer that the CDP offered to him was not required.
I´ve never heard of any Customs official doing work not required by the law.

I rest my case :-)

Ride safely!

Cheers
Chris

Storm in a glas of water
 

:ban:


Seems it is all just a storm in a glas of water .keepcalm

Check this post of 2 big bikes entering and some comments of ADAC. Only USA bikes are banned. (to be expected).


https://www.facebook.com/groups/201937063640691/


Scroll down a bit to the post of Aaron.

I asked Iran Embassy in Moscow to clarify ADAC's statement.

They responded that the Embassy had not received any information about new rules, and they looked to the Iran Customs web-site. There is such new regulation on the web-site, but it relates to import for sale in Iran only.

Cheers guys!

Btw, me and my wife are going to Iran in September, we're planning to reach Tehran 13-15th of September, visit Esfahan, Tabriz, eastern Turkey, and depart home somewhen near 25th of September. We're open to meet anybody on the route to have a chat, a dinner or join us for a while.

Thank you for your answer! Looks like a hassle, so if I have the chance to have a CDP I will, but as you said, the deposit for an expensive bike is a not easy to let go!

Thanks a lot to all you guys sharing information about this topic!
Got my visa few days ago and only heard today that big motorcycles would be banned. Now I´m so glad to read through this...
Hope to meet some of you guys in early/mid October in Iran this year!

Cheers :mchappy:

This is why the oh-so-bad ADAC accepts letters of comfort/bank guarantees....

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As french and will never have to deal with ADAC, but anyway, that's a really good news and I hope the french equivalent would accept it as well... Even if nothing about that shows on their website.
I still got time to figure this out, as I still need to save a bunch before the big trip (with or without CPD), but it's never too early to learn I guess !

They were not so on it in those days obviously :).

Me thinks this will pass when the temperature between twitty and Iran cools down.

As of now 10 day transit it is.

regards
Dooby

I might be a bit dense, but what exactly is this statement based on?

I am watching the situation closely and have not found any first-hand report that anyone with a bike >250cc, a valid CDP and 30 day tourist visa has been admitted for a mere 10 days and limited to a transit route only.

Can you please direct me to the source of the statement and possibly describe the nationality of that individual and the country / countries of manufacture(r) and registration of that bike? Thanks
Chris


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Given that there are reliable reports from other travellers in some other forums which have successfully entered Iran in the last few days with big bikes, I myself consider the 10 day transit-only statement to be without substance.

French Automobile Club which issued the cdp refuse the letter of guarantee .... they used To accept it but now it is finished.... i have To give the deposit for mine (isssued in july).
Concerning the topic, I'm actually in Greece and will reach Iran middle of september i think, Will let you know if any trouble...

Well, that's a bummer...But handy information. I hope it will change during the remaining two years I have to save for the big trip... If not, I'll figure out an other solution ;)

Hello everybody,

I know that more than 250cc is banned in Iran since long time but the Iranian custom doesn't take any action on this regard. I have so many friends on yearly basis they go there with their big cc's motorcycles and without issues. One time they faced an issue in Tehran since it's a big city and the police are so active there. So what happened is that the teenagers gathered around the big motorcycles were the police didn't like the situation, so it caused them some problem and the police called the custom and questioned them on how did you allow more than a 250 cc to enter the borders. The custom reply was " no issue with that and it's legal" since it's a foreign vehicle.

I live in Kuwait where we have many Iranian expat's. I was issuing my CPD and i was talking to one Iranian and he confirmed that any American made vehicle will not be allowed to enter Iran any more in 2018.

Thanks
Ossaimi





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We entered Iran with 4 big bikes 2 days ago from Turkmenistan.

No problem and no restrictions with time limits for the carnet

And I know some other travellers who crossed into Iran.

And we got stopped by police 2 times and no problem to use the bikes.
We even saw Iranian with big bikes.

We're tour operator catering for overlanders, and this is info from Iran from one of our partners in that region mr. Hossein Ravanyar - the OLD guy that is, not to be confused with the other one.

cheers
dooby

Hey Klaus,

could you (if possible) report your experience to the ADAC? I am currently in contact with them (they even asked me: "are you sure you want your carnet, because because of the current situation?") and they told me the following:

The prohibition of bikes with more than 250ccm is indeed an old customs rule and was never really used. But currently the iranian trafficpolice has aggravated this sanction and ADAC is therefore worried about actual police controls inside Iran (not about the customs at the border). Thats why your first hand experience with these police controls could be useful for the ADAC.

If you got any spare-time you might consider to send ADAC a short mail (carnetdepassages@adac.de). Eventually they will update the info at the homepage and all the people could be a bit more at ease...

Just a thought bier

Forgive me for saying so, but that is why I specifically asked for *first hand experience* and not for "I have been told". You are not even referring to a first hand source of Hossein - maybe he´s got his knowledge from someone who told him that ADAC has something on their website? Everything other than first hand experience like from Klaus is just adding to the apparently unnecessary anxiety of travellers. Don´t get me wrong please; this is a forum which is accessed by folks actually travelling and we need proven facts to determine where we go at the next turn, not guesswork, however well-meant. If you had customers of yours rejected at the border, please state their nationality, the make of the bike and the border crossing and date. Thanks for your contribution!
Regards
Chris

ADAC gets their information from the Iranian Automobile Club, so I doubt that personal experiences will make them change their website advice; it would not hurt to try, I guess. However, Klaus has been for a long time known to me as a super-reliable source of first-hand travel advice and I´m glad he shared his recent experience. Safe travels!

Cheers
Chris

Hello,
two of our friends recently travelled through Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran and back to Turkey.

They did not have any problem either. The officer warned them about their route that they have to drive towards Turkey, but they drove to Tehran and Isfahan and then back to Turkey. Noone stopped them and noone asked anything when they leave Iran.

I believe that rule is not applied by the authoroties.

Here is a link you may check their travel pictures partially.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmtrDcohh6b/?hl=tr



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I called the ADAC today and they know that People have no problem.

In fact this information comes from the traffic police in Iran.

But still here we got stopped twice by the traffic police and no problem, we could go where we wanted.

We had no restrictions either in route or time.

The ADAC cannot issue Carnet at the moment ( internal rule ) if you want it for Iran.

But if you do not say that you need it for Iran, they will give it to you So just need it for India or Pakistan :innocent:

I confirm from Iran, no problem as soon as you have the Carnet de passage...
I meet some Turkish rider on the road and for them it is forbidden over 250cc (They have been refused at the border...) but no Carnet de passage for them.
So don't worry you can plan your trip!

We entered Iran with three F650GS Dakar with German plates three days ago from Meghri/Armenia. No problem at all, no restrictions of any kind. Carnet de Passage is strictly necessary, no way around.
Cheers
Chris


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I just got this message of the ADAC:

Just for your information:

At the beginning of August we have received the information that the temporary importation into Iran of motorcycles with more than 250 cc is forbidden at the moment. We don’t know yet exactly all details but we are working at high pressure to obtain more information. Feedback from our customers who have recently travelled through Iran, we know that they had no problems with entry and exit Iran.
Please stay updated on our website www.adac.de/cdp-en.


So you know they are still working hard on the subject! Very friendly and helpful people of the ADAC!

The message from the ADAC is why this all came u an mad lots of rumors.

And since then there is no new information.
And I called them and they know that people get in and there is no problem at the border ( They heard it from many travellers ) but they do not bring the news on their homepage as announced.....

I guess the main question is whether they are still refusing to provide a carnet when you say you need it for Iran?
I have no problem with them mentioning there is some uncertainty about the official situation as long as they still provide a carnet to whomever wants one nonetheless.

They are not refusing. they fear you will come back ask for a refund if Iran does not admit you, as you have specifically asked for Iran. So just ensure that they promise that the only country declared void is Libya as usual and off you go.

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When I talked to them on the phone 3 weeks ago, they definitely told me they have an internal order to refuse carnet if you only ask for Iran.

But they try to get around because they know that people get in without problems.

It is always the same when management gives an order and the regular office people know it is stupid and have to do their job

Enrer into Iran
 

Hi guys!

I have good news - I entered Iran from Turkey (Dogubayazit border) 2 days ago with my BMW G650 Sertao (2013). I had my visa and CdP in place and no one in the border tell me nothing about 250cc restrictions. Border crossing was smooth except for the fact that they make me buy the bike insurance there (100€) if I wanted to leave customs.

Best,
Juan (@suanderingaround)

Youve been f....d. Insurance for 3 months is about 35€ max. (Been there in September only with 3 F650.) Insurance is not compulsory so you better tell that to customs and go to the next border city like Jolfa purchasing insurance. Hope you paid in Rial as the exchange rate for 100€ is 14.5 million on the street instead of 7 million official ...


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Sure you get in, that is what everyone writes here since weeks

I had several e-mail with a partner of our in Iran about the issue.
Knowing many official people, she asked all of them for advise and insight.
Key is, if you have a visa and the Carnet de Passage, they let you in. Same as before.
Someone renting a 600cc from MuzToo is in Iran as I am writing here . . .
There was not even a question at the boarder about the rule mentioned above.
Fur us this is real essential, as we will have a tour through Iran next May ;-)

Greetings

It is possible !!
 

Hi there
here is the latest update from late November 2018:
It's possible !!!
A Swiss guy rented one of our Yamaha XT 600 with Swiss number plates.
He had no problems at all to enter and leave Iran.

good riding
Peter

Yes, thats what we say since months :rofl:

:thumbup1::thumbup1::mchappy::thumbup1::thumbup1:

so the issue is now closed right?

visa and CDP give green light if I well understood

Reading this message i can tell you that also Belgian Royal Automobile Club ( the only ones who deliver CPD)doesn't provide a CPD for iran. Also the limitation of 250cc is in the email that i received. Still going in May 2019. Any recent options for Iran here on HU ?

Tell Laurence at RACB that you still want the Carnet and leave as you have planned. The "rule" dates from July last year and not a single foreign traveller has been turned back at the border so far.
I know of a few other Belgians who will be going through Iran this year and they plan to do the same.
The most recent people I know in person who entered into Iran on motorbikes dates back from last month. But I'm sure if you ask around on the See You In Iran or Overland in Iran Facebook groups there will be more recent ones.

Iran
 

Anybody know what the latest situation is regarding entering Iran on a motorcycle with a UK passport ?

Yes, 1st point is, you definitely need a guide.

No way without a ( permanent ) guide.

And 2nd, as it seems, it is not possible for British, Canadian and American passport holders to drive they vehicle yourself.

I assume this ban also applies to riders with US & Canadian passports,
does it also apply to other vehicles such as cars and trucks

thanks for this good news
 

still if someone wants to be in contact with an official on Iranian side :
Mehdi Alamdar, Head of International Affairs
alamdar.m@tac.org.ir
see the attached letter i got from RACB Belgium.
I wasn't in contact yet

No, there is no ban on Motorcycles over 250cc or Trucks or cars, it is just panic.

There is only a ban for British, American and Canadian passport holders, they can only move with a guide.

This is getting very confusing Klause, first you say UK, US & Canadian cannot ride themselves, now you say they CAN ride themselves but only with a guide.
This has been the situation for some time. What I am now hearing is that we cannot ride at all into Iran.

I never wrote they can ride without a guide.
For better understanding I try to explain:

British, Canadian and USA Passport holders can only move with a guide in Iran, only enter when they have a guide.
( Because it is possible to travel in Iran without an own car or motorcycle )
and if they drive a vehicel you need someone to drive it.

At least that is what it says.

If police really stops you and you get big problems, we don't know, but i was in Iran twice and got stopped several times because they wanted to know where I come from.
It was always correct, but they check.

The latest info from travel agents / visa sponsors is that UK nationals cannot drive their own vehicle in Iran, even with the mandatory guide. I am pretty sure this extends to Americans and probably Canadians too.

If you were able to bring your car / bike in via another person (e.g. a passenger who has a different passport), then you might be able to drive it once past the border, but this would depend on your guide. I am fairly certain that the police would not even be aware of this rule.

At the end of the day the visa sponsor is the person who you need to speak to, they are the ones who will issue your visa support which you need to get a visa at an Iranian embassy or consulate. Getting in the country and moving around, provided you have the necessary visa, is pretty straightforward.

EO

I would not bet on this.

I got stopped 2 times in 2018 and they definitely checked which nationality we have.

It was regular police ( not just traffic police ) and there was always a civil police officer with them.

When they saw we were Austrians and Germans it was always fine, but they checked.

Anyone travelling these days to Iran?
How did you get carnet?
Did you get a carnet for a different country,but enter Iran?
It's about motorcycle,bigger than 250cc ,Japan producer.
Our government follow the restrictions - not bigger bike than 250cc,no american prodicers.
I read somewhere for somebody,who took a CDP for Pakistan,with the cleat intention for visiting Iran. The problem is that now is allmost impossible to take a CDP even for Pakistan in my country.
Thank you in advance!

Has anyone entered with Ford Camper / american car to Iran recently?
 

We are planing to visit iran sometime this year with our Ford Camper.

I read on German ADAC that its forbidden to enter Iran with american car, but i also read that its forbidden for motorbikes bigger than 250cc to enter and people still report that they enter without problems.

Has anyone went to Iran with american car?

are there any news on this subject or hopes for lifting the ban?

also to be noted our car is made in germany (van) and italy (RIMOR camper) but ford is clearly american brand.

our plan is to travel to India or all the way to Cambodia if possible. Alternative routes are even more difficult so its very important for us to find a solution.



All help is very much appreciated.

Thanks

Hi, I (german) am in Iran since 14days. Git my CdP via the german Automobile Club ADAC without probs, entered Iran from Armenia without Probs and have also no probs with the police. Except an offer to take tea and sweets in the police office :-)

Heard today from my iranian contact at the border that 2 rider ( unknown nationality) had to give a fee of 1500euros for the bike. Details unclear. Hole ti get more and valid information.
Best,
Muddi

I'm hearing of people being rejected at the Iran border in the last few days, because of the 250cc law wich was never applied.
Any reports here?

Looks like what was rumors until now, now became a sad reality...

Hi, before one week a came back from Iranian border. Its sadly true. No motorbikes above 250ccm. No discussion. You can parked motorbike at a border, its no problem,and go to Iran, but only without your bike.

Not true.

There are definitely some bikers who entered the last days.

Mostly from Kapikoy ( Turkey to Iran ) close to Van lake.

Klaus, I know what you are writing is true, but I think a few more words will help people coming to this thread and clarify how things are going.

I will try to summarize a bit...

Until march this year, the 250 cc law (which existed since years) was never applied.
People with right documents (carnet and visa) continued to enter on big bikes with zero problems.
There was not a single report of people being refused.

Since april 2019 things changed.
A lot of people have been rejected because of engines bigger than 250 cc.
Some decided not to enter.
Some left their bikes at the border.
Some others putted their bikes on sealed trucks and crossed with other means of transport.
Some others tried their luck at different border post.
Some managed to enter.
There are a lot of discussions regarding different plan Bs (pre-organized transit, trucks, etc etc) around the web: some can be true, some others no.

So, situation is changing and it looks very volatile.

If someone asks me the folloowing question:
"Is it possible to enter Iran now on a big bike?"
I have not one clear answer.

The right answer is: it is possible, but it is no more as easy as it was and things are changing quickly.

My advise to people who wants to travel in that direction would be:

-Are you a traveller with a lot of time, who already applied for Iran visa and you have carnet? Definitely give it a try at different borders and I'm very confident you will get in.

-Are you a traveller with 4 free weeks and want to vistit/cross Iran, but you have no visa or carnet yet? (btw, this is my situation, as for now) Well...think about it, try, if you want, and if you can take the risk of throwing away some money, but...is this your only 4 free weeks this year? It's up to you.
As for me, I will probably decide to reorganize myself and leave Iran for the future, when I hope things will be more clear and definite, but if someone wants to try, it is not a definitive NO, at the moment.

Things can change quickly again, for the better or fot the worst...

My answer was on the post before where it said not bigger than 250cc.

And that is not right.

You are right and your summary is good.

I think we have to wait a bit and it will change, but we will see which way.
Either it gets harder or easier.

Please give me some names of people who goes to iran with big bikes after 25.4.2019. I spend six hour on the border, of course i have carnet and visa. On the border is new parking place for a big bikes, when i arrived was here five motorbikes from germany and italy. After six hour of discussion, i say ok not with motorbikes and go to iran by walk, take a taxi and go to Tabriz rent a car. This is not a problem. But from 20.4.2019, its not possible go to iran with motorbikes more then 250ccm. Only transit, but no on your motorbikes, only on the truck with bikes as a sealed cargo.
Dont say that isnt true because some people can trust you and that is not good, because it is true.

And when i leave iranian border, i stopped two bikers and say them a problem. Guys from Turkey and they say me - its your problem because you are from european union, we are from Turkey, we havent problem. I say ok, but i wait because I was interested and I had time. One hour and they drive back and say me, fu#ck it, for everyone. This is one week old thing.

NO; IT IS NOT TRUE !!!!!!!

go on facebook and either join the group HUBB or some Overlander in Asia / Overlander in iran groups.

You can find some posts there of people which got definitely into Iran with bikes bigger 250cc.

Even 2 days ago some entered.

And it is not just 2 people getting in, its a lot.

But most problems occur in Bazargan

Again, it is not true what you write.

Ok let say it's possible to enter with Carnet and visa but we have another problem: our car association doesn't want to give us Carnet for Iran. They stoped after april 16 also like German Adac.

The german ADAC for sure issued after April 16.

You can always apply for a carnet, just dont say it is for iran.
They might refuse it that they dont get any problems when you cannot enter Iran.

But they know it is sometimes possible and as long as you don't directly ask for Iran, you get it.

It is the same group as Pakistan, India or Egypt.

Okay, if its true, my multiple visa and carnet still valid. Maybe you are experienced traveller then me, please can you help me? Can you post some link to facebook to people who arrived to iran after 25.4.2019? I cant found anybody after this date. Before, not problem, but after i cant find it. Please help, thanks.

I told you the groups before:

Link



https://www.facebook.com/justajourne...&theater&ifg=1



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You can find some more if you are looking for that.

And there are discussion about motorcycle drive who came into Iran the past 2 weeks.

Mostly at Kapikoy border, some in Armenia and some from Pakistan and Turkmenistan

Next one today:

https://www.facebook.com/SalzburgToS...type=3&theater

ADAC still give you Carnet, I applied last week , they told me it on my own risk. anyways I need it for India, and ADAC issue CDP for group of the countires , and Group 1 includes (IRAN, India, pakistan, Srilanka) because of the fees.

Any news here? Iran fully closed for bikes over 250cc? Thanks.

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No, the last 2 days 3 Austrians entered Iran.

1 with a Transit Option for 8 days self driving and 2 with big bikes in Kapikoy without problems.

Good stuff. Can you explain a bit about the transit option or anywhere is that discribed in more detail please? How to apply for it etc? Am looking at going through Iran with a Transalp 650 this summer... Thx!

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I have not done it myself but some people I follow have done it with Hussein from Urmia.

For me it seems quite expensive but on the other hand you need no carnet to transit.

I would also like to know the transit option. Planned a trip in june .
But Iranian consulate 3 weeks ago asked me to apply for tourist visa , as transit visa is for commercial drivers . I m not sure if its true, thats what i was told

I got this answer, from http://thepersianride.com


You could indeed temporary import your bike although you have to exit again after exactly 7 days which is very little to explore the real Persia.

Best regards,
Stephan

I was also in talk with Hussein from Urmia, he suggest the same , but for 7 days and price is high. and my ADAC carnet is of no use. I have to re-think if I go to Iran. With all the situation developing.

The other one is not left to me, because I continue to Pakistan, India .... if there is no secret, how much money is in the game

you can contact him directly at overlandtoiran@gmail.com . he offer his service only at Armenian border crossing

If you have to go enter Iran for further travelling, the best option : you can hire a closed pick-up truck or trailer , the custom official sealed the container /bike at entry point, which you can open at exit border.
For this option you dont need anyones help, just you need to find pick truck probably with driver.

I didnt/willnot try myself, but the official at the https://en.taci.ir/ suggested me. My plan was to enter Iran and then ship transport my moto from bandar abbas to Mumbai. but it seems now very difficult

I contacted him ... everything is possible, as I have seen in the last couple of months, the way to Australia by land is quite complicated and expensive

His answer ...
Hi,

I can offer our service coming via Armenia and exit to Pakistan and your vehicle can stay in Iran 7 days maximum. This service cost :ninja:$ including third party insurance

Kind regards

Hm I don't understand why the money isn't just mentioned?! I heard amounts of 450-500usd for 7 days transit. But not clear whether you are than travelling separately from your bike and what guarantee you have that your bike doesn't disappear... Anyone more details?

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