Riding in the rain
 

Riding in the rain is THE most dangerous thing I do on a motorcycle. Dangerous not just for myself.
I guess I have known this for 38 years. Traffic conditions have changed a lot in that time and demands on riders have increased (constantly checking the speedometer for one thing).
It is considered too dangerous to use a cell phone whilst driving yet we are allowed to ride a motorcycle at up to 70mph in the driving rain and freezing cold. It doesn't add up.

Rain
 

I dont understand what point you're trying to make, are you implying you think it should be illegal to ride a motorcycle when it's raining? if you think it's too dangerous dont do it.

The point is that there is some hypocrisy in being virtuous regarding driving safely and at the same time ignoring the truth that riding in the rain and cold is extremely dangerous.
I don't know about you but when I spot double-think like this, I have to question it, which is why I raised it.
You are wrong to suggest that I am implying anything. Do the facts imply to you that perhaps riding in the rain should be illegal? You came up with that conclusion. I simply pointed out that something didn't add up.

My only motive in raising this is to examine the truth.
Meanwhile I continue to ride in the rain and cold and never use my mobile while driving.

I'm not sure this thread belongs under "Advisories and Urgent Information".

However personally when I'm riding I'd use a bluetooth headset for my phone at all times, not just when its raining.

Riding in the rain
 

You made a statement saying you consider riding in the rain is the most dangerous thing you personally do on a motorcycle, and that we are 'allowed' to ride in the rain comparing this to using a mobile phone whilst driving. I thought from this statement you were implying both activities to be contrary to safe driving/riding. The only way we as vehicle users would not be 'allowed' to ride in the rain would therefore be for the activity to be made illegal, i thought that was a perfectly reasonable deduction,maybe i'm wrong. Like i said before if you think it's dangerous dont risk it lifes too short.

O.K.
I thought I was posting in Safety and Security on the Road. Never mind.
I was busy checking my speedometer when I posted.

Interesting subject. I love bad weather
 

Well, I hope you dont mind me airing my view, I'm new here, and I'm getting my big bike license next week. Rode a 125 for 4 years all year round. I find riding in the rain, exciting, and very relaxing. Then again, I probably wouldnt if it was coming down in buckets, or if I was doing a long trip and could avoid the thunderstorm. But in general I think rain is like any other day. One should always be vigilant, no matter what the conditions. I like the sensation of having the challenge. I'm on a transalp too, not a sport bike, different attitude. I do know guys where I live with sport bikes who dont go out until summer. I plan on riding all year round. - ta-all-the-way
:stormy::nono: (sorry, don't do lightning)lol

ahem.....
 

Well bernard, I dont know where your coming from, but looks like `im not the only one confused....:confused1:

Maybe you should lay of Drugs for a while? or maybe you should take some!

( Do whichever applies, OK?)

In the meantime, lets wait for Sheepy and `dodgers input!:eek3::rofl:

Thanks TA- all-the-way.

" I find riding in the rain, exciting, and very relaxing."

I can remember feeling that way. About 1974. Things change as time passes.
You should try riding the M62 during a downpour. I guarantee a relaxation free experience. It could put you off riding for life.
I've had my Transalp for 6 months now and I really like it.

Just dangerous or extremely dangerous
 

Well, it is a matter of personal perception and individual risk assessment to use the jargon of this century.

Yep, there sure is a lot of hypocrisy around though - how about the UK Police Inspector in charge of a police advanced driving school who has just been banned for doing about 118 MPH? ("I was testing a new advanced driving route"). He was out of his area and was lifted by another police force.

Try dicing with Mercs and BMWs driven by Germans in "Autobahn mode", and riding in the rain/cold will seem like a "walk in the park".

So come on guys, what is the most dangerous thing you can do on a bike, while riding that is?! :rolleyes2:

How about the snow-riders?

For me Riding in the Rain adds more enjoyment, a much higher skill level is required and with practice my riding has greatly improved almost to the extent that I am no slower when its wet. I usually find my riding style to be a lot smoother.

Wet roads are great its Oil and Fuel spills that screw us but at least when its wet you can see the stuff.

And how good does it feel to get home remove all the wet gear and have a cup of tea to restore the circulation.

Keep it wet and keep it upright !!

(RIDING IN THE RAIN IS THE MOST DANGEROUS THING I DO ON A MOTORCYCLE, DANGEROUS NOT JUST FOR MYSELF) !!!!!!

BERNARD, This must be a wind up going by your comment above, If not ;

Whatever you do dont go to far on your bike It might rain. Hint: DO NOT GO TO NORWAY OR EVEN SCOTLAND it rains a bit - INFACT DONT GO ANYWHERE it might rain. - but you will miss out on the scenery, the roads, the people and experience of travel.

Stay SAFE - VERY SAFE - get four wheels and stick to them or better still watch the TELLY instead.

Erm I hated riding in the rain at first until I actually did it, it's like filtering some people do it and love it some people don't, but the beginning of this post did sound like he wanted it made illegal which is total crap.

After the initial 10 minutes when things get really slippery, I've found I have the same amount of grip because the roads have been washed clean of all the oil and other crud that cars tractors buses and lorries likie to leave all over the road. But then again I ride a F650GS Dakar so I don't tent to lean over too far as it's way up high, that and I'm the newbie rider on the hubb.

But all in all I think it's a safe thing to do, and anybody who doesn't can sit at home on thier sofa and post crap on this hubb to their hearts content, while I'm out enjoying my ride.

Oh 'GORE-TEX ROCKS'

Brits seem obsessed with what they are "allowed" or "not allowed" to do !

Ye Gods !

You are also "allowed" to ride on ice and snow , but with ordinary tyres it might not be a good idea .
It's a personal choice .

On quiet roads, riding in the rain is no big deal , but congested motorways are another matter .

I've done a lot more dangerous things on a bike than riding in the rain .
[ But for the sake of decency and so as not to frighten the children I won't mention any details]
Cell phone even on bluetooth ?--not for me thanks .
I'll carry it in my pocket and look at my messages at the roadside whenever I feel like it but never whilst riding .

It's never been safer. Modern bikes on modern rubber. You should have been on Dunlop trailmasters or Yokohama's in the 70's. Not to mention two strokes with powerbands like a switch. Learn them skills!

what do you expect dodger???
 

The Brits are living in a Nanny State....... with CCTV everywhere, rent-a-cop everywhere, community patrols with cctv, ASBOs, you name it..they got it...... is it any wonder they are Paranoid about what they can or cant do? :eek3: :oops2: :rofl: ( That should get me flamed I reckon!)

and Dodger, I know you've done a lot more dangerous things than ride in the rain! Living in Canada for starters! what with Bears wanting to come into your bedroom at 3am for a cuddle and then you introducing it to Mr Remington! :thumbup1: dear oh Dear.. Most people call theirs Percy, why did you name yours after a Gun? Does it fire Blanks? :oops2: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

(go on Dodger.Ive given you the Ammo now!, go on, you know you want to.........) :thumbup1:

Martyn

the most dangerous things to do on a bike!
 

Hi All, Just my two peneth, it seems to me that the most dangerous thing to do for a motorcyclist is not to ride!:confused1:, If you look at the stats that are released yearly on accidents etc, more riders are killed or injured on uk roads in the spring than any other time....I and quite a few others have concluded that this is do to not riding through the "rain / winds /bad weather etc" and keeping up the skills learnt/honed during the summer and building on them, this is why I ride through the winter months when ever i can.... so all I can say is that "just living" is dangerous and risky, but, we all do it,:rolleyes2: it's down to the individual to make up their own minds about the risks they wish to take....long live bike riding.. where and what ever you do it, but ride safe:thumbup1:
TDMalcolm

200% agree with you!
 

Malcolm, i ride 365 days a year, have done for the last 15 years, dont own a car or any other form of transport.
I agree. riding through Rain, Ice both visible n 'black', Fog, Snow, Gale force Winds and general crap weather makes us smoother riders...... and smoother riders are generally faster riders in the Dry...... and the Guys who ride all year never get 'rusty' they have a heightened sense of 'awareness' if and when they have to drive a car and above all they ENJOY thier riding.

I have more respect for the dude on the 250 honda or the 125 who rides all year and does 4 or 5,000 miles than for the GS1200 rider who Blasts off to Europe or Morroco and does 4 or 5,000 miles in the Summer for his "Jollies".
Occasional riders who only ride on Sundays or in the summer Bitch n Moan like old ladies if they get a bit of rain on the Bike or its cold. What is the saying again? "15 grand and 150 miles does not make you a Biker!"

Martyn

Have to agree with Martyn, I've ridden in high winds driving rain snow and ice this winter I can't says it's made me a better rider coz I just plain suck but at least I know I can do it and that's why I like to do it just to push that fear factor away.

I'm not proud I will fall off my bike at the drop of a hat if it's wet dry dirty snowing raining or even sometimes just for the hell of it.

there is an easier way!
 

Just get someone to point a RECORDING Video Camera at you!
Its called " The Lemming Effect".... where normal, sane, healthy people try to kill themselves using motorised transport as soon as a Video Camera is switched onto record and Pointed at them. :rofl:

martyn

Riding in the rain is not dangerous at all...its the dangerous rider in the rain who causes problems...as do dangerous car/truck drivers.
I enjoy riding in the rain as long as its not too cold and i am wrapped up and can stay dry.
The wind is a different thing all together.I have just got home from a trip to Morocco and from Tarifa to Alicante it was a nightmare.Spain was on high alert Wednesday with winds gusting up to 120kph.I decided to go for it....because i am stubborn/stupid and i wanted to get back home.The trip back took 9 hours.It was the most difficult gut wrenching journey of my entire life and when i actually arrived home...shaking like a leaf....i burst into tears through sheer relief.I am not ashamed to admit that....as a bike rider it was extremely challenging and i now know i have the balls to do something like that.Maybe i was stupid to set off knowing the conditions were bad but the motorway was generally clear except for on the outskirts of the bigger towns where conditions merited very slow speeds for the considerate riders/drivers...as for the rest you just try your best to steer clear of them and predict their next move.
As for the comment on being 'allowed' to ride in the rain thats stupid and akin to saying you cannot ride in the sun because there are more people out enjoying the weather therefore the roads will be dangerous.Each rider or driver is responsible for his/her own actions and you ride according to the conditions.
Who is going to stop me from riding in the rain or wind or sun?No one mister because i am a BIKER.
Thank you and happy biking y'all

Hello Dean
 

Well, all I can say is good for you, you conquered you're own fear by doing that.
I used to sail a lot in the mediterranean, I was a sailor,7 years, and everyday we printed a satnav weather fax, which would tell where the bad weather was coming from, and which way it was going and how long it was going to last. If you go to the capitainerie's office in any port, they could give you such a printout/copy. You might even be able to head north or south (or east or west for that matter)of such a cold front and go around it, if you've got the time. I'm guessing that on a bike, one should always have time to make a detour to be safer. Try that out one day, I can tell you, I missed many a big storm like that, in the middle of the med.
ta-all-the-way

Glad your home safe Dean
 

[quote=deandean;169181.Spain was on high alert Wednesday with winds gusting up to 120kph.I decided to go for it....because i am stubborn/stupid and i wanted to get back home.The trip back took 9 hours.It was the most difficult gut wrenching journey of my entire life and when i actually arrived home...shaking like a leaf....i burst into tears through sheer relief.[/quote]

Aye it was windy last Wednesday I will admit that!
I take it it was a Sidewind or at least 45 Degrees to you most of the way home then? I know what you mean about the stress n the tears...... its not fear its just a massive release of tension that has no other way out.
Be glad, be very Glad you werent on a Goldw**g or some other awkward piece of machinery like that!

Glad you made it home safe Dude, you must have passed Sax on the way home? you coulda popped in for a coffee lad!

Martyn

We had a bit of rain in Sharjah this week; the heaviest January rainfall on record. It didn't stop the hardy bikers out here though. We just avoided the puddles. :)
Stephan

what a strange little thread... I shall dive in!

Okay - so riding in the wet - frankly I find my riding better in the wet because I'm *forced* to apply everything I've learnt on my advanced riding course with the IAM - I'd go as far as to say I was safer in the wet than the dry.

Cold - well frankly these days there's simple no excuse to be on a bike and to be cold. I remember well my early days, when gore-tex was £4000 per square meter and I froze my nuts off in all weathers heading over two valleys to get to my apprenticeship on a CZ 125. Idiotic.

But as time has passed, and as my training has progressed, and the bikes have got better, not to mention gore-tex is slightly more affordable - it's never been safer, or more comfortable to ride the roads when wet and cold.

m

Bernard; this is a site for world travellers, people who enjoy crossing countries with small revolutions, coup d' etats, mountain passes, deserts,salt flats, endless miles in hail storms, crossing rivers somehow when the bridges have been washed away........and you are scared of the rain???
GET A LIFE, or a Mondeo!
you ruined my friday..........
Ch

??????????!!!!!!!!!
 

Waterfox, NO! :rofl:

If Bernard doesn't like the rain,,, GOOD,! it's "DANGEROUS" Innit?......
so if he dont like it, He will stay in... Meanin WE can play in it safely without some idiot ( I don't believe you used the word M*n*eo on this site..........) in a C*r trying to take out a Biker enjoying the Rain! :thumbup1:

And Matt gotta tell you Bloke..... that CZ would be safe in the Rain "HI VIZ" Yellow!:eek3: Boy I bet you got some stick fer that, mind, i will say this, they have got better... they were orange or Snot green when i were a kid.
with styling that made MZ envious.

Martyn

Oo Oo Oo Acid Rain get it, that's double damn dangerous.

So do what the Doctor says.........
 

A man goes to the Doctor and says "Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I do this"..........
So the Doctor says "So don't do that".............
So don't ride in the rain............

Ombrophobia- Fear of rain or of being rained on.

Motorphobia- Fear of automobiles.

Basophobia or Basiphobia- Inability to stand. Fear of walking or falling.


BasiMotorOmbrophobia - So I guess Bernard has a fear of falling off motorcycles when its raining, looks like that might be Bloody rare

About 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 PROPER BIKERS HAVE IT.

he must be Lonely........
 

Well looks like He is either RARE & Loneley or not a proper Biker.

My money is on BOTH! :rofl:

Martyn

Rain
 

I still havent got a f*@kin clue what point bernard was trying to make but i bet he wrote it whilst it was raining.:confused1:

Brits Viewpoint
 

Dodger, your comment that Brits are very concerned about what they are "allowed" or "not allowed to do" is very interesting. I love the English, I thank God I live under a system of Common Law in my country (USA) BUT there is a major major historical difference that effects our life perspectives. Technically English citiziens are "Subjects" of the Crown. Rights are conferred (given) or taken away by the Crown to the subjects. In the US, it is the citizens that confer rights to the government. Our inalignable rights are granted by a higher power (ie God not a frigging King), the right to liberty, equality and pursuit of happiness. We are not guaranteed happiness, just the pursuit thereof. As citizens we grant the governemnt the legal authority to make law on our behalf and for our favor, not the favor of the Crown. It is a vastly different concept.

Let's look at gun control real quick - the human right to protect yourself is inalienable. This cannot be taken away. We are allowed to have guns, not so we can hunt rabbits (although that is fun) but so we can protect ourselves against the government, tyrants, and criminals.

That's all I going to say about that!

Bugger! Give me a king I can shoot any day than a mythical god!

John

Inalienable sureley? proof again Yanks cant spell!

Martyn

Now how did that US philo get mixed up with riding a bike in the rain. Then again I suppose any subject is good enough to start an american off on a philo trip

well........
 

obviously cant read either!.........:rofl:

Hey Tprata don't be so soft, you already have had 2 stolen elections with Bush, the NH vote recounts are all messed up with opened ballot boxes and broken seals, your electronic voting machines are rigged, and your laws and its police force are now aimed squarely against the citizens of the USA.

You seem like the majority in your countryman sprouting about democracy whilst your rights are being slowly eroded at home, stop making wars on people who haven’t attacked your country or your way of life and stop listening to propaganda.

Go here www.prisonplanet.com and read get enlightened before sprouting crap matey, the only one of the candidates in the US that will be any good is Ron Paul, and don’t say liberal.


911 INSIDE JOB !
(go do your research if you disagree before asking Grant to ban this post, as 3 buildings don't collapse at free fall speeds without some explosive help)

Oh and the BBC,NBC,ABC news saying that WTC building 7 had collapsed before it actaully had goes to prove a scripted event.

Cool
 

Whoa - from riding in the rain, to the Crown, to stolen elections and chemtrials. What a tangled web we weave.

Don't really get the point.
 

I can understand the point of this post if you were saying something like.."If you ride in the rain, then do so and so or wear so and so.."
The fact is, motorcycles are a form of transport, not just for Summer Sunday fun.
I did my bike training over the winter (in Scotland), I did my big bike test in the pouring rain with gusting winds. I ride my bike all year round, I've been out twice this week for a fun ride. I see guys riding to work every morning regardless of weather. I even passed a couple of bike cops the other day wiping the frost off their screens.. I've seen couriers riding in the snow. ( As I did when I was in the Royal Signals in the 1960's riding BSA 350's and Triumph 500's in all weathers) Can you imagine... Sorry Sir, can't perform my bike duties today.. it's a bit wet... maybe I will fall off!
Most bike accidents I've seen have been in the summer in good weather.
SO, I just don't get the point of your post.
Sounds a bit PC to me!

Tprata:

Some of us can read and have pretty good memory’s and I’ve not brought up chem trials so up yours, Don't preach your sickly Constitution at us if you don't want to get slapped with the truth, I've just sat reading about the explosion in the numbers of US police using Tasers on unarmed subjects including pregnant women, the mentally ill and various other people for NON compliance of their orders that's YOUR country. (to serve and protect my ass)

Oh and freedom of speech that went out the window 2 years ago, the right to bear arms is going out this year with the PTSD guys not being able to own firearms, and what about Katrina gun confiscations? 2nd admendment my ass

The right of Religion, oh only if your Christian or Jewish everyone else gets their phones tapped and emails read. 1st amendment my ass

The rights of protest and gathering see LA last year.

I’ve read your constitution form cover to cover a few years ago, it was a good idea in its time but it’s been abused so much that now it’s a laughing matter. Your Constitution is a piece of outdated paper according to George H.W. Bush and he really would wipe his ass with it, oh and for the record he’s the guy writing your laws not god.

Get an education on how things stand in your country, then re-read your constitution and then if you come to the conclusion that your way of life is better than anyone else’s keep your big supersized American mouth shut as we don’t want to hear your crap.

And don’t even try to push your values onto the rest of the world as we can see just how f*cked up America is.

Warmest regards

Lee

It never rains but it pours.
 

Just don't mention Harleys, I think I did once but I got away with it.

We don't want another uninformed rant from across the pond.

Maybe they don't ride in the rain over there...!

Well before I rant the most the most dangerous thing I did on a motorcycle was ride on black ice not much fun at all. As far riding in the rain once the oil washes off its not as bad as it looks other drives may make it bad. Wach the 16year old girls putting on makeup eating and talking on there cell drifting in to your lane. But its the dear that scare me the most.

Well as for the USA Constitution be glade we dont use it else the USA will not have been WW1 or WW2. The USA was not threatened by Germany.

The US police are a scary bunch of thugs there dogs have more rights than I do. But in there defence they are up against the most armed civilians in the world. But serve and protect no they stopped doing that in the 60s. (there not in the Constitution)

1st amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. not the freedom from phones being tapped. Phones in the US have tapped for some time there recored and key words screened. Freedom of speech has always been under attack I cant lie and get people killed or hurt. If it was trully free speech I will be able to. As far as I know the internet and email is not protected at all.

2nd amendment. The thorn in the side of USA government. The states run this thing in to the ground, in Arizona you can buy a fully automatic gun in Washington DC it was a illegal to even have a gun. Katrina thing was for safety they let criminals out of jail so they dint drowned. that and the cops dint like being sniped at. PTSD if there on drugs or have been in a mental institution, got called on domestic violence (lots of othere things and the list grows all the time) then yes they cant have a gun.

Constitution form cover to cover? (its that big) its one part of the law. You really want the USA to use just this to run it self? No army, getting most all of the trillions in taxes from taxing imports? Become so shielded from the out side world we discount even its people? Rember the Constitution was written to piss off the English King no to govern a world power.

Majority of my countryman dont sprout about democracy they sit at home thing the worlds hates and wants to kill them. They are fat and scared (Rome liked fat and happy before it fell).

George H.W. Bush I dont like him much my self but dam it stop with giving this one man in the history of the US the credit for all the thing bad in the US. Hes one man he dint make the UK go to war he dint make the US go to war (congress did they have to vote for it pay for it and validate it).

oh and for the record he’s the guy NOT writing USA laws. He cant congress dose they have to vote for it to be a law.

Like me saying oh its the Queens fault that UK went to war with Argentina and Iraq hell shes a German.


But yes Ron Paul is the best candidate I will vote for him he wont win it wont matter who wins. The USA is falling the EU looks to be the next supper power hope you treat the USA as well the USA treated you after the war looks like we will need it. :rolleyes2:

We do ride in the rain on this side of the pond , but then there is more than one country over here , I live in the very big one ,just above the USA .
As we have a 5 month winter ,riding in the warmish rain is a pleasure .

Just spotted a great letter in this months (UK) Bike magazine - it's the star letter and basically has a good shout about how good the roads in London are right after a heavy downpour with all the crud cleaned from the streets - as much fun as that sun-backed stretch of tarmac on an icy morning!

m

Rain can have both a positive or a negative effect on a rider. Some see doom and gloom at the hint of a dark cloud.

I find, as it usually does in the UK, You just push your bike out the garage and it starts to rain. This does dampen the spirits before you have even started but, If Im out on the bike and then it starts to rain, I carry on regardless.

Thing is, You cant stop nature so you have just got to work arround it.


Anyway, Thats why we pay so much cash on fancy gortex type gear!



Roy:thumbup1:

whats wrong with em?
 

Hey I heard that 94% of all Harleys ever Built are still on the road....







the other 6% actually made it Home! :rofl:

Martyn

Quite right and you can turn it into a navigation test: watch the clouds rolling in and try to ride around them, using the knowledge that you have stored away in your brain of the local roads (or on your GPS nowadays).

You get a feel for how fast thunderstorms, for instance, can build in intensity and how fast they can arrive, apparently out of nowhere.

Hi Bernard. Sorry about all that, but you did set yourself up a bit! and somehow all the ignorant anti-harley bigots found the opportunity to air their views as well!

TPRAT56. I'm surprised at your comments. On my recent visit to the states last year I got the impression there were police watching everywhere with zero tolerance for the slightest infringement of the most trivial laws. Won't stop me going back but Ill make sure I'm on my best behaviour all the time.

Sorry, there is no such thing as an English citizen. You can say a British citizen of the EU, or a British subject of the UK, (or Great Britain.) England is NOT the UK, and it is wrong to think so. There is no such thing as an English passport. The UK comprises Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland. The Common Law which you admire, is nothing more than a patchwork of make and mend laws, without coherent principle, and which is out of step with European and Scottish law, which follow a principled and ordered set of values.

It is backward and medieval to be "subjects", I agree, which is why many Brits want a republic, and why I am happy to be an EU citizen.

In reality, your freedom , which in practice is only marginally better than the UKs, still leads to horrors like the Iraq war, which we in the UK, to our shame and protest, joined in. You also elect men who are clearly very very dim and dangerous, like Reagan and Bush. Your point about firearms is highly debatable, and very shortsighted. Your "higher power " is of course an example of the lack of clear thinking which allows you to elect such crazies to office, advised by criminals and Neo Cons.

Riding in the rain may help you think better - I recommend it.

Martynbiker - I don't think you should comment on another's spelling. For one, it's not important, and two, your spelling is among the worst I've seen on this site. And the second word of your post is wrongly spelled.

Trust me, I teach backward children. I can help you.

oh well.. i cant win em all.......
 

I cant win em all Cammy....... but at least I have a sense of Humour! something I am afraid you are sadly lacking.

Martyn

Oh I think he has....
Some people get their kicks from casting the bait and watching the fish bite........

trust me, he hasnt....
 

Me n Cammy have a running battle going....... were old 'frenemies'! :rofl:

It never fails to amuse me how many sportsbike riders won't even consider going out in the rain. I managed to persuade a mate of mine to go out for a ride a couple of weeks ago. He's quite a quick rider in the dry but you could see how timid he was because the road was slightly damp.

As for the political debate, don't disrespect the USA. They won the Battle of Britain all by themselves you know.

The second word of your post is wrongly spelled!....

Should that be "present perfect":The second word of your post has been spelt incorrectly:

there you go Caminando.....
 

Nice one Dean! :rofl:

Just for you then Caminando ....... John 8:11 Assuming you have a Bible!

or should that be " Glasshouses & Stones?"

Martyn

REALLY sorry Martyn just couldn't resist....

John 8:11 reads....

Whereas I suspect you were actually after John 8:7

(as per the King James and the New International)

sorry... really... couldn't help it.... sorry :innocent:

yep
 

john 8 v 7 it was....... as i said earlier.... im not perfect! :rofl:

rain
 

anyway to get back to what the thread started out about.
In sunny africa I hardly ever rode in the rain, then after coming to not quite as sunny england I had to ride in the rain - or stay at home!
In 6 months my wet weather riding had improved in leaps and bounds and now I can ride as quick as I want in the rain.
If you think it's dangerous then don't f*****g do it if it scares you!
one thing I want to know tho after riding on uk's motorways in hideous spray is why can't a country that has so much rain actually build a road that water drains from?:innocent:

:smartass: :tongue_smilie: :rofl:

I remember ( in a car) on the a74 above carlisle overtaking a container lorry with so much spray :stormy: as I got along side I couldn't see a thing and was almost disorientated but did what you always do - hold it straight and keep going - thing was there was 1 headlight in my rear view mirror - a bike avoiding the spray in my slipstream:(. Except I didn't know if it was a bike or if I was 1/2 a lane out:funmeterno:. Scared the s... out of me.
Not sure what the lesson is but just be carefull - I was allways taught to treat everyone else as a learner driver.:scooter:

In fact, Dean, the verb ‘spell’ has two past participle forms which are both considered correct and are in current usage. These are ‘spelled’ & ‘spelt’.

Regarding the choice of verb tense, the present perfect would refer to an action in the past which occurred at an unimportant or unspecified time; as in your sentence:

‘The second word of your post has been spelt incorrectly.’

The present simple passive may refer to a general statement of fact, irrespective of time. Therefore, ‘the second word of your post is wrongly spelled’ is also grammatically correct with a coherent meaning.

I’ll get me coat. :innocent:

Stephan

Hi
I never questioned the spelling of the verb "Spell".
As for the correct grammer.........i would think Present Perfect would be more suitable as we want to make a point about a recently made mistake...therefore the time element is relevant and would concern the present.
As you say,both are correct and if we were not bothered about the mistake that tense would be ok.......my point is someone was trying to be clever and make a point about something,which i think was incorrectly made.

You teach what?

You are either a liar or totally unprofessional to use a phrase like that !

Also a while back you made unsavoury comments when a hubb member said about a mental medical condition he suffered from.

juddadredd, Boxer 2U
 

Go ride in the rain!!!!!

Rain?

While we are on the topic, does anyone know what you add to powdered water????

Get on topic while you can
 

That won't last long!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes2:

Powdered whisky.

I thought someone would come up with that - no, you're wrong. "Spelled" it is. That is the present perfect. 0/10 go to the bottom of the class. Any more nonsense and you'll be made to ride a Harley.

No, that's your kind of trick. It goes with your verbal incontinence.

Its raining outside with snow on the way - I am not working today so I am dragging the bike out and going for a ride just because its nice to do so. I love riding in the rain - i work when its dry so riding in the rain is my mainstay when in the UK.

Spot on, Stephano. At last, a knowledgeable contribution on language! However, I would question your remarks about a tense in relation to an unspecified time. Does your info come from CoBuild? And I did not use the form "spelt", as you quote. I'm not so sure about this unspecified time. But a nice post....

You seem to be very familiar with these terms. I guess they've been said to you very frequently. Your last comment is malicious fantasy, and worse, you end with a preposition. You wish to flame so you use extreme language. Please stick to the truth, and avoid rude and provocative language.

I can recommend tranquillizers - trust me, I'm a doctor.

Now please leave me alone? Thanks.

Ok...i never suggested you spelt "spelled" incorrectly.
I never suggested your choice of tense or adverb/verb order was wrong.
All i pointed out was the fact that "is wrongly spelled" appears a little alien to me.

Hi Dean

No problem! Language is a slippery thing anyway - and among linguists you have the prescriptive school as opposed to the descriptive school. I really dont want to see you on a Harley anyway!!!

Confused by the sound of it....both of you.
Caminando! How can you say "spot on,Stephano" and then go on to question his choice of tense.......?

Hi
No problem here either..........i did actually work as a Head of Studies in a language school for 5 years many moons ago.I left because i was bored shitless.

ps. I can´t ride a Harley anyway.....i always fall asleep as soon as i get on one.

Dave, he is suffering from "Munchausens" Methinks
 

Cammy, you attacked the fact that I suffer from Bipolar Disorder & Depression. FACT.The Hubb member stated in Deve edes post was, as you know ME. You have a very short memory.

So your a SPEECH THERAPIST, you TEACH "BACKWARD" KIDS & your a DOCTOR you must be on what? 100,000 quid a year plus, Cammy?

Dave Ede didn't use ANY extreme language, as you can see from his post which I have copied below for you.

Originally Posted by dave ede http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...s/viewpost.gif
You teach what?

You are either a liar or totally unprofessional to use a phrase like that !

Also a while back you made unsavoury comments when a hubb member said about a mental medical condition he suffered from.

Whose been upsetting my good MATE Martynbiker ??????? :nono:

"FIGHT bottle him, Kent BOTTLE HIM!"

LMAO play nicely kiddies else Daddy will have to spank your hairy little bottoms.

Why are cars 'parked in the river? :rofl:

This is turning into one of those threads......
Stand by for verbal warnings and bans.
Still nothing better to do since it's raining and I can't take my nice shiny Harley out in the wet.

When the points,bans and infraction notices get dished out it will be myself and Martynbiker that will suffer as per last time. When Caminando got abusive and got a 3 month ban he whinged to Sue Johnson and it was reduced to 4 days. :thumbdown:

Dont forget I also took a couple of YOUR points and a couple of CAMMYS point out of goodheartedness ( yes I asked Uzi for em) and the Dennis didnt even have the grace to say Ta!

Oh well I personally couldnt give a stuff Dave....... I KNOW I contribute more Good to this site than Caminando and all he can do is critisize...

Martyn

Riding in the rain ---- try again
 

Why can't the Harley go out in the rain? :rolleyes2:

(I can't see a flag for "on topic" so, Not :offtopic:)

Indeed you do Martyn, Indeed you DO!

No need to react, just ignore em...

I have to live up the image all harleyriders are branded with. If I told you they still worked in the rain you might all want one.

Itchy Piles!
 

He's Like Itchy Piles! Hard to Ignore!. :rofl:

I can feel a :ban: Comin on! :eek3:

Nevermind Martyn if you get a ban (which you don't deserve), you can always listen to this.....

YouTube - ERIC CARMEN - ALL BY MYSELF

or this if you get bored...
YouTube - new 2007 crf50 fmx minibike euro fiddy sano filp yard video

cheers mate!
 

Thats "Music to Slit your Wrists By" that is! :hang:

or you can just create another userid - it's been done before......

LMAO not when they Ban your IP address boys.

I've re-read the posts what am I missing?
Why is Cammie so P*ssed?

Can't we all be friends I mean it's making me a bundle of nerves. LAMO

Never mind the US constitution, the present perfect, soggy Harleys, or Eric Carmen, this song's much more on topic.

YouTube - Helen Shapiro - It might as well Rain until September

Enjoy.

P.S. Anybody heard of, sorry, has anybody ever heard of Akito jackets? Do they stay waterproof?

Ah, we're back on thread
 

So, Adv950, do you have a trip report on riding in the rain/sleet/snow? (with pics maybe?)

Now there is an accessory .. A GPS with weather avoidance radar .. like they have on planes .. mix it with the traffic avoidance stuff .. you'll be in the Shara in no time!

Personally I find rain on a long trip nice. The locals stay indoors and I get less traffic.

Now fresh fallen snow is another matter .. I find the front wheel rolls over it ok, but then the rear wheel rolls over near ice .. and tends to want to slip side ways ...

As for black ice .. best left alone.


Bernard - you need to go on one of them 'off road train courses'. After riding in mud and creeks you'll think rain is easy. Nothing like relativity to put things in their place.

You may be right! YouTube - Billy Joel-You May Be Right
I may be crazy.

But a still road my motorcycle in the rain.

dam your songs are boring and depressing.

ive already told ya!
 

Lee, you Can also change your IP address on your Wireless Router ( Bet Grant didn't know that?) the Conceptronic C54 APRA2+ wireless Router also acts as its own "SERVER" thereby having an individual IP address....... which you can change at will........ :thumbup1:

I wil PM you on the other matter!

martyn

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like the sound of your own voice Cammy?
 

Quoting yourself now Cammy, thought you were the type of geezer that likes the sound of his own voice.... that just proves it!

And you DONT ignore our comments Cammy, you come back for more. admit it Man, You LOVE IT!!! :thumbup1:

Hardly Lightweight!
 

At 140KG I'm Hardly a Lightweight, thats 22 stone to you, Dave Ede is 18 stone so no lightweight either!
And I'm not a Troll, I can count past Four, ( You HAVE read some of Terry Pratchett haven't you?)
"Pissed "is only an Americanism if used by an American. It is actually a PRINTERS term to mean the type is not straight. See, I even educate you Cammy and you want me to go away......

we live in a "Global Village" now thanks to the Interwebnet! so I can use whatever euphenism I like Dude!

And if you want to make me go away...why not try asking Nicely?

Oh and on a last note......"I" don't have a "Gang".