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mcgiggle 15 Feb 2009 17:45

Tee hee :D:D There's only love in this camp :D

Dodger 15 Feb 2009 18:48

It's all relative ,my son has described the HUBB as "rather like an old people's home" as nothing interesting ever happens here .
I don't agree but maybe I am a geriatric old fart .
There is the occasional spat once in a while ,sometimes about BMW vs The Rest and sometimes just nasty trolls , the mods jump in quickly and sort it out and there have been some bannings .
Some members have been rehabilitated [some more than once ] and others have simply vanished - Herbert Meek where are you now ?

The problem [and perhaps the great virtue of this site] is that it has a worldwide appeal and many subscribers have English as a second or third language and may not understand what is going on .Therefore I think it is quite proper for the mods to crack down heavily on trolls and the like .

I haven't noticed any increase in nastiness on the HUBB but maybe I need my eyes testing .:eek3:

Caminando 15 Feb 2009 21:27

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Originally Posted by Dodger (Post 228824)
It's all relative ,my son has described the HUBB as "rather like an old people's home" as nothing interesting ever happens here

I haven't noticed any increase in nastiness on the HUBB .:eek3:

Glad you agree the site isn't nasty. - and some of your other points were well said.

Sorry your "son" doesnt like the HUBB. Is he registered here BTW? There are two Dodgers, but maybe "he" goes under a totally different name .....??:scooter:

baluchiman 15 Feb 2009 21:31

I've never seen any nastiness on hear, good ole banter, yeah.

Caminando 15 Feb 2009 21:59

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Originally Posted by baluchiman (Post 228848)
I've never seen any nastiness on hear, good ole banter, yeah.

Spot on Baluchiman. :thumbup1:

baluchiman 15 Feb 2009 22:03

Ta La. I meant 'here' not 'hear'.

Dodger 15 Feb 2009 22:21

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Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 228847)
Glad you agree the site isn't nasty - my words exactly. - and some of your other points were well said.

Sorry your "son" doesnt like the HUBB. Is he registered here BTW? There are two Dodgers, but maybe "he" goes under a totally different name .....??:scooter:



There are indeed two Dodgers to my knowledge on the HUBB ;
Dodger which is me and The Dodger who is someone else - no connection at all .

My son has his own identity on the HUBB and he does not dislike HU or the HUBB .

I hope this clears up any misconceptions you may have had .

mollydog 15 Feb 2009 22:34

Speaking of Ill feeling and Trolls.....
 
This is yet another guy doing a race, flying through a region and making sweeping statements and spending money like a Drunken sailor.
$110 hotel in Nicaragua? Obviously NOT a budget traveler.

Caminando 15 Feb 2009 22:43

Oops! sorry! Dodger! It's just that you said he felt the "HUBB was an old people's home where nothing ever happened", I thought that meant he didn't like it.

As for the multiple Dodger identity problem, what you explained was like reading a John Le Carre "Smiley's People" complicated spy novel. It's too much for me.....:eek3:
A father and "son" team.:thumbup1:! good!

Anyway, get that bike ready for spring!:cool4:

Buen viaje

markharf 16 Feb 2009 01:08

Mollydog, I was tempted to respond again on that particular thread, but managed to hold myself back. If there's a tolling element in the posts, he'll fade quickly in the absence of responses. If serious (which is my guess), he's addressing an audience which differs substantially from me. So what's to gain by responding?

FWIW, my questions to myself when trying to decide about such things are: will my response add value to The Hubb? Will it be helpful to me personally? Will it help the person I'm responding to in some way? Not always in that order, of course.

When I answer "no" to all three questions but post anyway, I generally regret it....especially when I'm feeling even slightly moralistic about my response.

Mileages vary, sometimes drastically.

Mark

mollydog 16 Feb 2009 01:32

Thanks for the feed back Mark.

Threewheelbonnie 16 Feb 2009 08:31

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Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 228878)
Thanks for the feed back Mark.
I've called plenty of places "shit holes" in my travels but these days, try to see the positive sides too.

Usually means you haven't seen enough of the place IMHO.

I hate Manchester (God Damn it, Terry Christian and all his little wizards). There is nothing there that couldn't usefully be solved with tactical nuclear weapons (preferably while said Terry Christian was on air). There are other people who will no doubt go on about it's better side, but they are obviously not trying to get past the ***ing place without the aid of satnav on a bike that can't go on the motorway. (BTW, what's the point of signposting **** like "Library" and "Sports Centre" but not the next major town up the road? Don't people who live there know where their own library is? If Mancunians are that daft, will they be able to understand the signs?). I'm sure given more time I'd be less inclined to nuke the rat hole, but that's usually the crux of it, time and the willingness to wade through the bad to get to the good.

Andy

Warthog 16 Feb 2009 08:47

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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 228901)
Usually means you haven't seen enough of the place IMHO.

I hate Manchester (God Damn it, Terry Christian and all his little wizards). There is nothing there that couldn't usefully be solved with tactical nuclear weapons (preferably while said Terry Christian was on air). There are other people who will no doubt go on about it's better side, but they are obviously not trying to get past the ***ing place without the aid of satnav on a bike that can't go on the motorway. (BTW, what's the point of signposting **** like "Library" and "Sports Centre" but not the next major town up the road? Don't people who live there know where their own library is? If Mancunians are that daft, will they be able to understand the signs?). I'm sure given more time I'd be less inclined to nuke the rat hole, but that's usually the crux of it, time and the willingness to wade through the bad to get to the good.

Andy

LoL!! Do you fell better now?

I could actually warm my hands from the monitor screen while reading that post!

Threewheelbonnie 16 Feb 2009 09:31

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Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 228908)
LoL!! Do you fell better now?

I could actually warm my hands from the monitor screen while reading that post!

Glad you enjoyed it. Couldn't resist getting a nice rant going in a thread about rants. :oops2:. Still, it's good for the soul or something.

Andy

Xander 16 Feb 2009 10:21

An unfortunate truth
 
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Originally Posted by tedmagnum (Post 228723)
Have we had an influx of new angry members ?? Has everyone just gone a bit mad recently with all the financial problems and bad weather ???

It just seems that every thread I read, there is someone at someone elses neck. People getting wound up and drawn into pointless arguments which really have no place here. .. There's just no need. This isnt visordown.com !

This is a great forum and kept great by its members who are 99% of the time, fantastic, friendly and laid back folk who won't be drawn into pointless internet "baiting".. (Traveller qualities I guess)..

So people, lets all just count to 10 and smile and keep the Hubb laid back and cool

! :Beach:

I have to say that i have noticed the increase in rants and agro on the HUBB myself (including the personal attacks).. AND I know that I have had at least one rant to my name.. and for that I am saying SORRY TO ALL ON THE HUBB for bringing any ill will to this place..

The rants IMHO are the lessor evil though.. (everyone deserves to blow off steam once and a while).. it is the personal attacks that I feel need to stop. There is no reason for this at all. I have even read a few attacks on new people asking broad questions, and feeling lost amongst the mass of information, (okay maybe the information is available in other places, but this is no reason to attack). This attitude almost made me leave the HUBB. I would like to point out that one of the new members that was attacked responded to the post and has not been seen since! I have spoken to them and they now reluctant to ask anything else.

In general this place is great and a safe haven, as someone said 99% of the people are nice and helpful. We are all human and can get excited when there is topic close to our hearts or hits a nerve. I don’t think debates should stop, every story has 3 sides (his, hers, and the truth) however the language (words) we use are very important, it is all to easy to use emotive words with out realising it and thus not portray what you meant to say. In text it is extremely hard to hear tone of voice (so it is easy to write something that sounds okay to the writer but a reader will "hear" something else) emoticons simply don’t help.

A simular thing happened last year and resulted in a group of members having to have their posts checked by the moderators before they were allowed to go on the HUBB, this is not what anyone wants. So lets stick to the Golden Rule.. If you don’t have anything nice to say… don’t say anything at all!!


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