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Jake 12 Mar 2015 20:57

Let the Liberal Lefties suppress the truth why let a good story get in the way of the facts

Seems to me once again the Mob are out - sod the need for a hearing, sod the facts known or otherwise - we will get some hearsay, exaggerate it and just hang im anyway maybe even worry about the trial afterwards.

In law you can not take his past behaviour (even though much of it has been inflated and exaggerated by the liberal nazi's in any case) into account until he has been judged on this case and found guilty of it.

More so if he has or had punched someone ( a proper punch - you know causes pain, bleeding bruising that sort of thing) then I think the proper Police would have been called and be lifting him for assault - that's not happened.

I am not defending him - nor his actions but then again I do not know the facts - so can happily sit back and wait. Oh silly me i am almost being fair balanced and just - tut tut. (just won't do for an ex copper would it).

As for Top Gear if he goes i would think it goes - no one can replace him without his say so - he owns 30 odd % of the top gear Brand.

As for him being a buffoon - he is actually quite a clever, rich and by all accounts very pleasant buffoon, whereas his persona is maybe not.

Someone mentioned Benny Hill, he wasn't a pervert his tv persona was sort of - don't judge the man by what you see on the telly - it's not all true you know.

As for TV management I have little doubt the powers that be are so far to the left they have almost gone back round to the right.

I would think they wield considerable power along with maybe a huge dollop of influences of some degree on some of the far left attitudes and political over correctness within the BBC / TV industry. (Clarkson clashes with this a bit as we all know - so he must be a threat even though a huge worldwide following see him as he is - acting as a overpowering, overgrown knob.

However Clarkson does have quite an ability to put complex matters into words on paper in a simple readable and somewhat jaunty manner - may well be a threat - more so to some of the deep lodged top blokies (and ladies - lets not be accused of sexism - and of various nationalities - and races - think I covered the racist card there as well !)

Now sitting back, battening down the hatches - and waiting !!!! :stormy:


Skål jake.

Mezo 12 Mar 2015 21:38

Check out the odds & who` tipped favourite to replace him if the punters are wrong & he does go, HERE.

To Replace Jeremy Clarkson as Top Gear Presenter: 2/1 Chris Evans, 7/2 Johnny Vaughan, 6/1 Steve Coogan, 8/1 Chris Moyles, 8/1 Tiff Needell, 12/1 Jimmy Carr, 12/1 Jodie Kidd, 16/1 James Blunt, 20/1 James Nesbitt, 20/1 Jay Kay, 25/1 Rowan Atkinson, 25/1 Patrick Kielty, 33/1 Johnny Vegas

Mezo.

Walkabout 12 Mar 2015 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 498338)
Let the Liberal Lefties suppress the truth why let a good story get in the way of the facts

Seems to me once again the Mob are out - sod the need for a hearing, sod the facts known or otherwise - we will get some hearsay, exaggerate it and just hang im anyway maybe even worry about the trial afterwards.

In law you can not take his past behaviour (even though much of it has been inflated and exaggerated by the liberal nazi's in any case) into account until he has been judged on this case and found guilty of it.

More so if he has or had punched someone ( a proper punch - you know causes pain, bleeding bruising that sort of thing) then I think the proper Police would have been called and be lifting him for assault - that's not happened.

I am not defending him - nor his actions but then again I do not know the facts - so can happily sit back and wait. Oh silly me i am almost being fair balanced and just - tut tut. (just won't do for an ex copper would it).

As for Top Gear if he goes i would think it goes - no one can replace him without his say so - he owns 30 odd % of the top gear Brand.

As for him being a buffoon - he is actually quite a clever, rich and by all accounts very pleasant buffoon, whereas his persona is maybe not.

Someone mentioned Benny Hill, he wasn't a pervert his tv persona was sort of - don't judge the man by what you see on the telly - it's not all true you know.

As for TV management I have little doubt the powers that be are so far to the left they have almost gone back round to the right.

I would think they wield considerable power along with maybe a huge dollop of influences of some degree on some of the far left attitudes and political over correctness within the BBC / TV industry. (Clarkson clashes with this a bit as we all know - so he must be a threat even though a huge worldwide following see him as he is - acting as a overpowering, overgrown knob.

However Clarkson does have quite an ability to put complex matters into words on paper in a simple readable and somewhat jaunty manner - may well be a threat - more so to some of the deep lodged top blokies (and ladies - lets not be accused of sexism - and of various nationalities - and races - think I covered the racist card there as well !)

Now sitting back, battening down the hatches - and waiting !!!! :stormy:


Skål jake.

We have come some distance from the JC views on motorcycles (as per the title of this thread) which themselves are all part of his public media persona, but no one appears to mind.

Jake,
There is reporting that JC sold his rights to the Top Gear brand to the BBC some time ago; combine that with other reporting that he is out of contract with the BBC in about a month and I don't suppose he could give the proverbial damn about a BBC disciplinery enquiry.
They, the BBC, could, for instance, sack him one day and offer him a new contract the next, thereby saving face for the BBC.


Based on the tone of your post I think you might enjoy the information and exchange of views contained within my earlier link (which does not link into ABR in fact).

Jake 13 Mar 2015 01:16

Walkabout - Dave , quickly read your link - yes its got a few good points - i quite like the way its been put together.

As for JC view on motorbikes that's fine - why should he like them he does not have to nor does he have to withold his views. would any of us like our positive views limited and suppressed i think not. On another note my mother hated them - my elderly next door neighbour hates them and is terrified by them, even my wife dislikes them - now - even though she's traveled a fair bit on one. Why do people have to like them they can dislike and voice that opinion as much as we like / love/ live for them and god can we spout off and talk about them and how wonderful they are. Simply differing views and experiences- its a good thing.

I wasn't aware Clarkson had sold his shares - local press stated today he had 30 odd % - so maybe again unsubstantiated semi facts from the media - and i was taken in by them.

As for Clarkson what happens to him one way or the other matters not a jot to me - I have other things that directly affect my life if he moves on it won't affect anything at all in my small world.

That said i don't like to see the pre judgement and lynch mobs getting themselves worked up into a frenzie at the smell of easy blood.

However i very much think all big institutions like the BBC, NHS, Police, etc need someone within the ranks constantly fighting back and pushing boundaries as a counterbalance to the oppressive regimes that manage and wield power.
In a country where it seems everyone is or can be offended even when things are not directed at them, the suppression of words, thought and the distortion of quotes /history / facts is becoming the way of life - and it seems many folk can't see it - the words racist, homophobic, Hero etc are bandied about and misused to such a degree that they have largely lost meaning and are used out of context or without thought. Someone pushing against this and upsetting a few people really can be a good thing. Getting physical in the workplace is not acceptable but it happens - i have certainly seen it at times in the careers and places i have worked in.

On another note some people (and i do not point the finger here at anyone in particular) sometimes really deserve a good bop on the nose.

As for ABR i think Chris must have a bee in his pants about them at the moment - but on the other hand he's a really nice chap to sup a beer with as long as you don't mention ABR or CCM :) .

Jake. Freedoms are in peril, they need defended with all might

anonymous1 13 Mar 2015 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 498344)
Check out the odds & who` tipped favourite to replace him if the punters are wrong & he does go, HERE. Mezo.



Dunno about the lousy odds! Oh to see Rowan Atkinson hosting Top Gear :lol2:

Mezo 13 Mar 2015 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwnite (Post 498391)
Oh to see Rowan Atkinson hosting Top Gear :lol2:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...pspfifyrb4.jpg

All we know he`s called Mr BEAN.

Mezo.

Walkabout 13 Mar 2015 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 498369)

I wasn't aware Clarkson had sold his shares - local press stated today he had 30 odd % - so maybe again unsubstantiated semi facts from the media - and i was taken in by them.

I probably got that report from the comments that are appended to the Problem child blog; I don't quite recall where I read that.
But, the writers in that blog - there is more than one - tend to do their research before putting pen to paper/fingers to keys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 498369)
That said i don't like to see the pre judgement and lynch mobs getting themselves worked up into a frenzie at the smell of easy blood.

However i very much think all big institutions like the BBC, NHS, Police, etc need someone within the ranks constantly fighting back and pushing boundaries as a counterbalance to the oppressive regimes that manage and wield power.
In a country where it seems everyone is or can be offended even when things are not directed at them, the suppression of words, thought and the distortion of quotes /history / facts is becoming the way of life - and it seems many folk can't see it - the words racist, homophobic, Hero etc are bandied about and misused to such a degree that they have largely lost meaning and are used out of context or without thought. Someone pushing against this and upsetting a few people really can be a good thing. Getting physical in the workplace is not acceptable but it happens - i have certainly seen it at times in the careers and places i have worked in.


Jake. Freedoms are in peril, they need defended with all might

Take a further dig into the web blog; there is considerable food for thought on your themes herein.
The most recent writings show up below whatever the current blog is showing in the home page and all of the earlier blogs are contained in the drop down menus at the top.
Some contributors have axes to grind, others wish to express the truth based on their own research and considered thought process - something like the HUBB then, but with a wider remit :thumbup1:

chris 13 Mar 2015 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 498369)

As for ABR i think Chris must have a bee in his pants about them at the moment - but on the other hand he's a really nice chap to sup a beer with as long as you don't mention ABR or CCM :) .

Jake
Thanks for the character reference. :helpsmilie: My mention of ABR a few posts ago wasn't negative. I go there to read the gossip and be entertained. Clearly Walkabout does too. Around the time he was posting statistics regarding how many people have allegedly signed pro/con JC petitions, the same topic was trending on ABR. No useful content over there = no useful content over here = no problem.

Hope you're at Danny's MMM at the end of the month Jake.

Walkabout: Are you coming too?

Jake 13 Mar 2015 21:42

Hi Chris

I won't be making Dannys do im afraid, i am in the process of training in Motorcycle wheel building - with a view to starting a small business from home - I will be doing my practical exams around then and hopefully getting my tickets to trade and as such am pretty busy with a very steep learning curve.

Catch up later in the year Cheers. Jake.

chris 13 Mar 2015 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 498471)
Hi Chris

I won't be making Dannys do im afraid, i am in the process of training in Motorcycle wheel building - with a view to starting a small business from home - I will be doing my practical exams around then and hopefully getting my tickets to trade and as such am pretty busy with a very steep learning curve.

Catch up later in the year Cheers. Jake.

A catch up will have to be before the summer. I'll be out of touch for a while after that. Shame you're not qualified already: I would have sent some work your way. :oops2:

moggy 1968 14 Mar 2015 00:05

I would like to know who made the complaint, was it the other party, I suspect not, there is a supposed facebook convo going around between the 'victim' and another saying that he wasn't punched and the press have just built it up to be something from nothing.

So far, I have seen not one shred of corroborated evidence, just hearsay and opinion of the 'I knew a bloke once who was there' variety.

Personally, I think someone has the knives out

BTW, the way Clarkson has made money from running a production company and selling the rights is not unusual, lots of celebs do that, It's how Chris Evans made his money (Ginger productions) and I believe Tarrant had the rights to Millionaire. There are plenty of others.

Mezo 14 Mar 2015 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by moggy 1968 (Post 498485)
So far, I have seen not one shred of corroborated evidence,

Well his mate thinks he punched him "bit of a dust up" he says.



Mezo.

moggy 1968 14 Mar 2015 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 498488)
Well his mate thinks he punched him "bit of a dust up" he says.



Mezo.

He also said he wasn't there, and wasn't that serious!

I think you just showed the dangers of selective reporting!

Mezo 19 Mar 2015 23:06



Mezo.

ridetheworld 1 Apr 2015 02:05

Jeremy Clarkson view of motorcyles
 
Would it be as funny or acceptable if some Libyan Clarkson type went to Scotland and made snide references to the Lockerbie bombing?


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