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Sam Manicom 2 Aug 2013 07:46

I always wave at Brit bike cops. Nice bunch. They always look surprised - well body language says so - I imagine the expressions under their lids :) and they always wave back. Good!

OOgie 2 Aug 2013 12:46

Meaning
 
The acknowledgement of our sharing the road on two + wheels is as natural as saying, "hello."
For myself, it signifies that I will pull over if you are stuck or broke down.
Driving on the 'right'side of the road makes that acknowledgement easier .
Obviously safety first. The concentration on the turn, intersection, or the bike takes an obvious priority And then there are times when I just happen to be focused elsewhere.

charlietbird 3 Aug 2013 11:57

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Originally Posted by Sam Manicom (Post 431253)
I always wave at Brit bike cops. Nice bunch. They always look surprised - well body language says so - I imagine the expressions under their lids :) and they always wave back. Good!

I've always found the bike cops a decent bunch around here. 9 times out of 10 they wave first, and when they stop for a chat they are genuine bike enthusiasts

Charlie

Mac-1769 3 Aug 2013 13:09

Kyrgyzstan
 
Here in Kyrgyzstan the wave is something new. If you wave at folks on the street most of them will just look at funny. Bikers seem to be more into it. I will honk, wave, or nod at anyone. It does not matter to me if they ride an old rusty moped or a brand new BMW. But what I have seen now is more of a division. My son rides a sport bike and I ride an old, slow, KLR! A lot of his buddies don't think to wave at me, that is till I get a hold of them. The mopeds don't wave at the bikes nor the bikers to the mopedist.... I just wave at them all and keep on keeping on. :scooter:
Mac

brclarke 10 Aug 2013 18:36

I try to wave or nod, but frankly, with the way many cagers drive I'm usually too busy focusing my attention on the surrounding road to bother!

mountaincadre 10 Aug 2013 20:41

Alas this has been something that has been becoming more and more common, my own take on this is that for a lot of these people it is just another mode of transport the same as there BMW/MERC/ YADDA,YADDA,YADDA. I wave and nod to anyone and there brother, I don't care if they drive a nifty 50 or a full blown custom street fighter, I have found that a lot of the teenagers on mopeds don't get it but at least smile, where as the type who don't, look at you like they wouldn't pee on you if you where on fire, hay-ho it's they're loss not ours, keep the smile on your face, wave to the guy on that model of ducati that you don't like and ride it like you stole it.:mchappy:

markharf 10 Aug 2013 21:02

A few quick observations:

If OP is looking for my nod, he's going to be disappointed. I wave--always have, probably always will--and since I'm looking for waves I might not notice his nod. Sound worth complaining about? I don't think so.

I lived for almost two decades in an area where car drivers wave at each other--there are only a few cars, and it's expected. Much of the rural USA still does this. During the summer there was always an influx of people who didn't know local customs, and didn't wave. We used to complain a lot about this (although before the internet, so not publicly).

I was raised to say hello to people I pass on foot or bicycle--walking on trails, on sidewalks, on rural roads. In much of the world, people don't say hello--in fact, in some places I've trekked it's expressly forbidden to even show any sign that you've seen the other person, particularly between men and women. In other places, people stop, indulge in elaborate handshakes and greetings, and spend time establishing where each party comes from, what their family affiliations are, and who they might know in common.

In other words, there are no universal rules. What's more, customs change over time, and no one posting here is the final arbiter of what's right or wrong, what's to be considered appropriate or not. In fact, many of us here are getting on in years, and the ones who actually do make the rules are much younger. Anyone hoping to live happily during their declining years (sic) had best get used to it, and focus more on doing what works for them rather than worrying about whether others live up to their standards.

Barely even two cents' worth, but I'll accept voluntary contributions.

Mark

ullukk 18 Aug 2013 08:19

Always try and nod to oncoming bikers/scooterists etc, i'm not bothered what people are riding to be honest, me thinks we are too much of a minority to be splitting ourselves into divisions anyway. On the plod nod i do this as well and more than often get one back.

MilesofSmiles 2 Sep 2013 19:51

Here in the good ol USA, Los angeles area, Almost all bikers (with exception to Harley, Indian and Goldwing) wave at each other, no matter what size the bike is. It will happen going the same direction on the frwy, mountain roads, deserted desert highways. Everybody tends to wave unless conditions don't warrant it. We also pat the top of our helmets to warn for upcoming problems like a cop or an accident.

jazzmd 12 Sep 2013 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentfallen (Post 430533)
Out on my XT6E (red) today in this lovely weather (30 degrees). Did a short trip from Sheppey to Bexhill in Sussex and back (100 miles).

Bit hot and sticky in my full leathers especially at lights and jams. But it was glorious. I just love my single cylinder torquey bikes.

During the ride I tipped my head to a vast number of other riders passing me by on the other side of the road. This practice comes naturally to me and I have done it since I started to ride in 1980.

Nearly wiped out by a young girl driver (T boned). Good thing I was riding defensively and left a wide berth.

I can report here that about 50% of riders totally IGNORED my gesture and went speeding past without reciprocation. :thumbdown:

I have always considered us bikers to be an elite on the road - members of an exclusive club where we all help each other out if things go wrong. We also show car drivers how to drive properly particularly on rounderbouts etc. I have always considered that riding on 2 wheels improves your driving skills on 4 wheels too.

I found that riders of small capacity bikes (mopeds and learner 125's) were more inclined to reciprocate.

Yes I always tip my head to mopeds/learners and large capacity riders alike - We all started out on these things and they are on two wheels taking exactly the same risks as the larger capacity bikes.

What has happened to bikers? Have half of riders lost their manners or, did they never possess them in the first place?

AND why are car drivers not using their indicators? I noticed a driving instructor not using them and even a bloody police car!

AND why do many car drivers do right turns on rounderbout's using the LEFT hand lane?

Got my moaning head on, sorry.

Interesting...

I'm probably biased but I think that in Portugal and Spain I'm more frequently ignored by small bikes. Maybe because they're more frequently ridden by high school kids :)

Very Seldom a GS or Triumph, etc ignores a compliment (normally we just open our left hand)

All the best

jazzmd

RoadTrekker 18 Sep 2013 19:55

Fingers and Feet now
 
I live in the Czech Republic and here every biker always give each other the downward pointing left finger as we pass each other its a common salut as in a lot of Europe. Another thing we do here is that when a driver pulls over to let a biker past we stick out our right boot to say thank you. Drivers here are very biker friendly and about 75% will move over to let you pass safely so its only right that you encourage the behaviour and say thank you. Good manners on the road goes a long way to making the roads safer. We do not discriminate between scooters, cruisers or sports if you are on two wheels then we are all members the same club - bikers.?c?:scooter::scooter:


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