Warthog said :

" Sporting purposes: great fun and I'd love to have a go. Cardboard for me not flesh and bone...
Whether people carry a gun at home or abroad, I sincerely hope they never have reason to consider using it... "


Good sentiments there mate , I wholeheartedly agree .

Cardboard, clays and game for the cooking pot .

How behave in such a terrble manner?
 

As an American, I take offense to your statement.

If the quote above is indeed true, then you sir, are a small minded bigot. The truth is that far and wide most all Americans are honest peace loving people, just like anywhere else in the world. Why would you want to spread and inflame the fires of baseless hatred?

If someone asks me why people "hate" (Israelis, Greeks, Muslims etc), I respond by telling them the wonderful stories of the people I have met in or from these places and about the hospitality, kindness and assistance the have shown me.

Go ahead, hate our politics (can´t blame you), hate our corporations, be disgusted by certain aspects of our various cultures, but don´t cast and encourage widespread hatred toward people you don´t even know!

Didn´t your mother teach you "two wrongs don´t make a right"

Heh
 

If you were old and drove a Bmw,you,d probably hate every thing too!!!
Albert theturtleshead

Then again, if I had to ride a BMW, I´d certainly want it to be a very old one. At least the old ones are kinda cool. ;-)

I am about to buy my second Dominator. I will be ordering a large bore hunting pistol with it, to avenge the buttock trauma caused by the saddle. If you wish, you may pry my Honda out of my cold, dead arse.

That did make me laugh, although the mental image I was left with did ruin my late breakfast.... thanks a bunch! Do you have a licence to use those adjectives?!

Sweet, get the Ruger over the Smith. Stronger action.

So can I have the gun?

First of all, I have re read my original post.. Sadly I neglected to make it clear I was replying to Dongo, not the original poster. You ought to consider all of my post, not just extract a part of it. We have been asked a few times on this forum ( mostly by Americans) why they are disliked. They are not diskiked, but sometimes because of the gung ho attitude to the sensibilities of others they can be difficult to love.
Many years ago when I was much younger I watched a program on TV, Starsky and Hutch.. This particualr episode was set at Christmas. Some petty theif stole a christmas tree worth £5 and was making off with it. The uniformed cop with them Shot at the thief..Well, ok so it is all make believe, but the fact that killing a petty thief for such a little thing did not seem disproportunate to the film makers says a lot about the culture in which the film was made.

As it happens I could have made some use of a pistol today, had I been riding with one in my hand, but then I would not have been able to use either the throttle or front brake. which is why carrying aweapon is mostly useless. A deer ran out in front of me and stopped in the middle of my side of the road. Clearly unsure whether to continue or return. I chose to steer towards the gap between his blunt end and the grass verge..as I did not fancy crossing over in front as a lorry was coming towards us and I suspected ther was a higher chance of him running that way. At the last minute he ran the rest of the way and crossed the road and nobody got hurt.. I spent some time analizing what I should have done, eventually deciding that aiming for where he had been was probably the best strategy.

Fair enough, I consider dongo`s attitude to be offensive as well. More than likely, he was just trolling.

I did consider all of your post. Actually, after re reading it maybe I should have not gotten so hot. Especially, considering that you meant that you would point other people from the states to the thread. This was not clear in your original post. On the other hand, I don`t believe I took your quote out of context. Had you said "other Americans" I probably would have left it alone. On a third read, actually, "rest of the world" does passively indicate that you were referring to other Americans. Apologies.

To be clear, the word "hate" in the states carries much stronger connotations than perhaps in Europe. We are still suffering from the lingering effects of bigotry to a much greater degree than many European nations. Thusly, we use the the word for "hate crimes" and other things that most of us take very seriously. Unfortunately, we still suffer from a small percentage of the population that still retains notions of bigotry.

I have also been surprised how much bigotry exists in many nations of the world. It´s shocking really.

I have on occasion, been subjected to bigotry toward Americans while traveling. It does not feel good to be told that someone has preemptively made a decision to hate you individually based solely one where you were born-

My impression world wide is that we are more often disliked for the destruction that our failed American foreign/environmental/economic policies have wrought upon the world than due to a "gung ho" attitude, which I have even heard many people speak of with admiration.

Fortunately, most of the world`s people can separate the actions of a government from the people that reside there, since in the majority of cases they do not associate themselves with the actions of there own governments.

Ah, American Media violence. Do you know that most American violent films make much more money internationally, than they do in the states. In fact the Europeans love em. In S Am, they absolutely swoon over them. I don´t think this says anything about "their" culture. Far and wide, the Hollywood producers do not feel any social responsibility toward their audience (this was not always true), they only care about sales and violent programming sells. In the states and internationally.

No, it does not say anything about our culture. It is more a testament of how mega corps no longer feel as they have any social responsibilities to their consumers. When pondered on a global scale, it is indeed frightening.

In conclusion, sorry about the bigot comment. It was unwarranted, I may felt a little as though people were piling on the generalizations and perhaps picked you to vent upon. Again apologies.

It is no problem. Drongo wound me up, and i just wrote from the hip.

Often it is easy to misunderstand someones intentions from their posting either because the writer did not fully explain ( I often do this , tend to draw the dots and leave the reader to join them up) or the reader thought along different lines to teh writer. Language is a poor medium for communication. Just try describing a taste to someone who has not actuallly tasted what you are trying to describe.

I do very much separate people from their respective governments. generally disliking governments, they all seem to try to get away with whatever they think their electors (If they have them) will let them get away with.. Badly phrased I know. Problem is they are learning more and more how to manipulate the electors emotions and perceptions by lies and misrepresentations. As do commercial concerns.

A moment of relaxing
 

This is the ideal bike for travelling the pampas with good proteccion!Diferential and tracted 3rd weehl,nice handy not concealed fast shooting weapon,you will be admired at every border!
And a little cart for extra ammo.And above all it is not us made,no you know its european,hahahahahaha
Enjoy,relax and reply with a joke.
Its asado time for me now.
Adios

Europeo?
 

Viene de Russia!! Los Urales! (Yo tengo una sin la proteccion! En negro, naturalmente: son los mas rapidos!!)

Yes europeo amigo mio
 

That is the original R-75 "elefant" from ww2.Its a 43 build!The russian and chinese models are cheap knock off kopies.(what the ruskies "took" from berlin after the end of war hahahaha)
Still i would consider bike and gun as weapons because you don´t know wich one of both will explode first.
Saludos a Estonia

WHAT?!?!

I should attack you with my unlicenced, concealed tube of very strong mustard for that remark about my lovely, dependable, 150bhp Ural!!

Alwas waned a Ural now I see why! Think of the kit I can pack in that!

Wonder how the shaking is when your shooting that big gun must be loud to wonder if it saves lives like the Harly pipes do. :rofl: