Thanks to all in this thread for some good information.

Paul: Email Sent, I'm flying into Santiago in 3 weeks to buy a bike, some help with this RUT would be great, i'll report back here with my findings on the paperwork situation - Nice way to join the forum!:thumbup1:

Ok, thanks for all the information. Although I dont have a RUT number yet, it is always good to know you are not the only one with a specific problem.

And thanks a lot to Paul, who offered his help here.

Just wanted to share a link from a lawyer, that I found today. I dont know that guy, just found the information that he organises a RUT for foreigners even if they are not in Chile:

https://www.spencerglobal.com/privat...oreigners.html

So as I said, I dont know him, just share the information for the very desperate among us :)

By means of an update, The process of obtaining a RUT is still basically as simple as in Latchy's original post, you just need a Chilean/Resident Representative and that will likely be the tricky part from here-on out for gringos. The consensus seems to be that the form is just scary legalese and the person signing on your behalf is not responsible for fines etc you may incur. Chileans do love their bureaucracy

Visit the local Sii office (The one for Providencia is located at 281 General Del Canto, open between 9AM-2PM) Ask for a "Poder Administrador Representante O Mandatario" and a 4415.1 form http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/F4415_1.pdf

Find someone to come to the notario with you, you bring the above template letter (attached) and your passport, they bring their Chilean ID card, the process takes only 15-20 minutes and cost me 3300 pesos, someone else i spoke to it cost only 2000.

Once you have the notarised copy of the letter, and the photocopies of your passport and the helpful persons ID card you take these with the completed 4415.1 form back to the Sii office and they will give you a temporary RUT number with which you can buy a bike (You can do this portion by yourself)

A tip for the Providencia Sii office is that even though the main doors open at 9PM, if you walk round the back the rear entrance is open earlier so you can jump the queue and go straight to the first floor and be one of the first in.

Dear travellers!

Arrived today at Santiago from Berlin/Germany with my girlfriend. We already found a 4x4 car which we could buy immediately. Only issue: We dont have a RUT number yet :/

Dear travellers, locals or residents, any help would be highly appreciated! We would also compensate for any effort.

Thanks!
Rolf

great thread guys, very helpful and informative!!

me and my girlfriend will be flying into Santiago at the 17th of november and will be looking for Honda XR250 or 400 or sth similar.http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...es/scooter.gif

Booked into language school as well for the basics ;)

PAUL, i just sent you a PM.
Your help would be highly appreciated, as we have no ideas how things work in South America.

But we are excited as and can't wait!

Cheers,

Hannes

Hello Travellers,

Some useful data: to buy a motorbike or accesories, the most popular place here in Santiago is the Lira street. You will need to know some spanish tough. Another good webpage to buy/sell your bike is Clasificados yapo.cl - Avisos Clasificados Gratis en Chile: Vehículos, Motos, Casas, Departamentos y otros productos., it is a popular page with a lot of bikes (and many other stuff).

hi all,
we have just managed to get our RUT's. Can confirm that the SII office in La Florida (Avenida Irarrazavel) is still handing our RUT's without the need for a chillan resident. Only thing to what out for is you need an address in the local area, so be prepared.
Also there are a few bike shops on Avenida Las Condes that are worth looking at

I just went to ñuñoa today to try the same, with no luck! The man at the desk was about to start the paperwork when his colleague interrupted and told me I needed to go to a Notaria with a resident!

So far I have tried Providencia (Av Suecia), Centro and now ñuñoa and all times been asked to go to the Notaria.

Now I am searching for a resident to assist, will keep you posted

Just a few words of advice for those looking to purchase a second hand bike from a private seller in Chile:

1) In Santiago, many notaria will not be comfortable processing the sale with your temporary RUT. One notary that was willing to do it was "Maria Soledad Santos Muñoz" (just north of Plaza Constitucion in central Santiago)

2) Be sure to pick up the contract of sale before leaving Santiago, as you will not be able to claim your Padron at a Registro Civil without it. I had to wait a few days to pick this up from the notaria.

3) I tried to pick up my Padron a week after the sale was processed by the notary but was told it would take 1 month from the date of sale.

4) If you cant wait a month to pick up your Padron (I definitely wasnt hanging around) youll need a Poder from the seller to say you can leave the country on a bike that is still technically in their name. This can be done at a notaria and will cost about $3000 for a few copies.

5) After the bike has officially been transferred to your name, you can pick up the Padron from most Registro Civil.

6) Be sure to collect your permanent RUT card, youll need it to sell the bike.

but... what if you are selling?
 

First off, this was a really thorough post - thanks taking the time to make it.

I'm from the Seattle, Washington and have ridden down to Santiago over the last 6 months. My plan is to ride down to Patagonia and back up here to sell the bike before fly home.

My question for you guys is: do you know the procedure for registering a foreign (read: US registered) bike in Chile? I have a commited buyer who is a Frenchman and need to know what necessary documentation is to sell the bike to him. I've looked into maintaining the US registration and transfering the title to him remotely, however after talking to the Washington State Department of Licensing it's apparent that I won't be able to do that (without a lot of creativity and paperwork via snailmail). Anyhow, I am hoping to figure this out before leaving Santiago. Do you guys know what needs to be done here? I'd seriously appreciate any pointers before I wander into a Chilean government office and asking in my broken Spanish...

hey guys,
is it maybe easier to buy a motorbike just from another traveller? or do i have to undertake the same steps as described above? is there a thread about it? i couldnt find any.

Buying 2 bikes in Santiago Early August 2016
 

Hola amigos!

Seamus here from NSW Australia. Heading over to Chile (Santiago) with a mate on the 28th July for 7 weeks and looking to buy two bikes and do some touring! Looking for dirt bike/dual sport. It's good to hear that some offices are still handing out the RUTs without the need for a Chilean resident having to vouch for you.

If anyone has had some recent experience with obtaining an RUT and can advise of areas to get one without the need for the extra step it would be greatly appreciated. Or if any of our Chilean brothers and sisters are keen to help us that would be equally awesome.

Also if anyone has a bike (or two) for sale around this time it would be great to meet up and see if we can do a deal! Or impart some advice over a cerveza or three.

Happy travels :)

notario/ chilean resident
 

Just to confirm

for the last year you need a chilean resident (or foriegner with resident status) to sign a form with a notary stamp to say - well i'm not sure what but it means you can return to the oficina de impuestos to get the RUT after this.

office are open 9-2 weekdays
apparently the central office is more relaxed than others, you would need to use an chilean address corresponding to this municipality

address of office

santa roas #108, corner of alonso ovalle


in the process so will update on how it goes

So for a RUT you need the following

1/ a chilean to sign your form with their RUT number and to get this stamped by notary

2/ photocopy of their residency photocard and photocopy of your passport- these have to be stamped by notary also.

3/ 2 copes of the RUT form

with this it was very simple and quick to get the RUT at the office listed above

now all I have to do is find a bike . . .

Hi Everybody! I'm an Italian guy who will land in Chile in 12 days (1st June), I had some Italian friend in Chile, living temporarily there, but they do not have any auto/motovehicle, so they do not know how to address/help me. I've read all previous posts. My question is: may I ask them to do something in advance to help me in fasten the whole process?

Thank you!

P.s.:This thread is amazing I will sure post everything I did to obtain the motorcycle, because is fundamental for unexperienced travelers like me :)

So glad this thread is still active! Thanks for all the detailed info. I have been itching to do this for years, to go to Santiago de Chile and buy a small bike to ride around the continent, ever since coming across a youtube video of a czech guy named Ondrej Jurik doing just that. I will realize the dream this fall, I am hoping to arrive in early October 2016. It would be great to connect with some of you locals and share some stories and advice on how to find a Chilean to help out with the process.
Here's hoping they don't change the rules any further in the next few months!

Cheers
-Fred

here's the link to that video in case you're interested: https://youtu.be/zX4RYxah0eA

Am i right about this. Even if you get the temp RUT the main problem is to actually find a notary who will stamp the purchase with "only" a temporarily RUT?

And is it in someway easier if you just buy a brand new bike from a dealer?

Buy a motorcycle in Chile
 

Hello! Being completely new to travel in Chile, not to mention being the first time travelling outside of North America or Europe, I naturally have questions! I want to do a 3 week motorcycle trip in Chile this upcoming October, and am open to different options of how to do it. I want to determine the best option for price- rent a bike in Chile, or buy one down there and sell it after. From what I have read on the forum regarding bike purchases in Chile, there is alot of paper work involved to purchase a used bike. Is it less paperwork and therefore less time and effort to buy a new bike instead of a used one? As well, are the costs alot higher for a new bike than a used? I live in Canada, so I know the Canadian dollar will take me a long way.

As well, I am wondering if anyone has bought a bike in Chile recently, in case the rules regarding motorbike purchases have changed recently?

I have heard wonderful things about the folks on HU, and, being a newcomer to the site (altho I registered 3 years ago and this is my first time using it), am looking forward to meeting new people here, and as always, making new friends which ALWAYS leads to enriching, rewarding life experiences.

Thanks for your time!
James

3 weeks ????

Don't buy, rent. Otherwise you will spend 15 of yours days buying/selling.

TRy Ride Chile, Ride-Chile.com | Home Go for the 400cc (Falcon) bike if price is an issue. Or uprate to the KLR650. Both are perfectly suitable for a Patagonia trip.

I agree - renting tends to be cheaper for the first five or six weeks.

Bruce, I am also from Victoria, BC! Would you mind taking a minute to PM me, if you have time I'd love to meet and buy you lunch to learn more about your experience in Chile!

moto
 

hello, send me a pm and help you with your queries.
regards

I'm just back from my 3 months trip, if any of you have any question just ask, I want just to notify you that in 1 day going at the SII you can have your RUT following these steps:
1) Go to SII, in Providencia and ask (in spanish) for a temporary RUT, they will provide you a list of all the things you need
2) Get someone who own a RUT to sign a paper for you, that says that he can guarantee for you in the next 3+ months, this document has a specific name that I forgot (could be a stranger, for me was a Colombian friends, who need to have a national RUT)
3) Go in a Notaria to have everything certified (everything is done in half an hour at the cost of 7€/8$)
4) Go back and get your RUT printed in a white paper

Than you can go to buy your motorbike.
Here I have to important suggestion:

People in South America, are very friendly but many times, they do things without paying too much attention to details. And it can be very boring and sometimes dangerous for a foreigner. So make sure they put your RUT and not your passport number when you buy the bike, otherwise you will not be able to sell it: it happened to me.
Second each time you cross the border make sure they stamp your passport and they give you back a paper that shows that your bike can circulate in the country. To be fast normally they only regularize you and not the bike, as such you'll be in serious trouble when you have to get out: it happened to me.
Finally, whatever happens bring with you dollars, you'll be always able to "solve" litigation with police with this currency ;)

Hope it will help someone, as you helped me!
Since I enter this Forum rarely, for any question: luketzr at hotmail dot it

Suerte!

hello all
very useful information in the post
i want to ask if i want to buy a motorbike from a foreigner person and the bike is from Europe and i want to buy it in Chile to start my trip riding North ,
how i can have my name on the bike documents ?? so i can cross borders with ease ,thanks

This was posted on the AllChile.net Chile Forum by the web admin who knows a lot about this stuff.
Bad news for anyone who wants to buy a bike or car in Chile and travel around SA.
As always in Chile it may not be implemented in a uniform manner.

New regulation by Chilean aduanas in regards to the temporary export of cars and foreign owners.


This has NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGNERS WITH RESIDENCY IN CHILE!!!!! You can still come and go from the country with your Chilean registered car.


This only applies to people coming to Chile with tourist visas, and buying a car with a temporary RUT for foreigners, and intending to leave Chile with there car under a temporary export permit. We are still looking in to how this applies to the rental car industry, but that is a different problem.


O.k., the original regulation required a non-resident foreigner that owned a car, to just have a "RUT", without distinction between a resident with a permanent RUT number and a foreigner with a temporary tax payer ID RUT number, in order to do a temporary export of a car to say drive in Argentina, Bolivia, and so on.


Well, for all the neighboring countries, the benefit is by treaty to temporarily import a car, was in fact only meant to be extended to Chilean citizens or residents. It is essentially a temporary tax waiver between the countries. Chile has been very strict about enforcing this on foreigners. If you bring a foreign registered car in to the country, you have like 90 days and you either have to leave or formally import the car and register it.


Well, I guess it was not happening the other way around for years, due to that little blooper in the regulations. We get foreigners all the time that bought cars in Chile, say drove to the United States, and then are trying to sell the car. Cars were going out, under the temporary import benefit to neighboring countries, and for one reason or another never coming back. They essentially had an exit stamp, but no entry stamp, for the car papers.


So, for now, a foreigner that does not have residency in Chile must formally export the car in order to leave the country with it.


So, for all those tourist that were planning on buying a car in Chile, driving around South America, then returning to Chile to sell it. Sorry.


Is it stupid? yea. Will they fix this? Probably not any time soon. That is a very small part of the car market, with very specific circumstances. We are not sure what this means for the rental industry however; and, they might be the first to do something about changing this.


We are also looking for a legal work around, but also a very, very small part of our business too. So not a major priority.

That is sad news. Thank you Dmwbmw for sharing this information.

What is currently the best alternative to Chile for buying a motorcycle in South America?

I would say Peru is the most straightforward.
Which also makes a good central location to start your travels.

don´t panic guys.

you can still travel as a forgeigner with a chilean car/motorcycle over borders.

nothing really has changed, you just need one more paper of the notary. and the car/bike has to be back after 6 month, but this hasn´t changed.

also good news, i heard you do not need a chilean person or resident to get a temporary RUT.

Best wishes and save travels!

Hey, we just heard about this new law from a couple who decided not to buy a car after a local told them about it.
I'm in santiago with my brother and were actually planning to buy a bike here tomorrow.
Would you have more infos pickypalla? What kind of paper from the notaria?
We're going to go to the aduana tomorrow to ask but I'm not sure they'll know anything about it.
We also got our temporary rut last week at the registro civil of la serena and they first told us we didn't need any sponsor. But when we went back after having filled the forms, we suddenly needed a sponsor + poder and photocopies from a notaria so... Not sure what to do :)

ask the notary for a "promesa" it´s like a promisse.

everything should be done in a day inclusive the rut...

if you need help there a some people who of services for this in santiago.
ask me for a contact if you need.

Promesa
 

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this forum, it has been my bible for planning my trip.

I am in Santiago at the moment and got my RUT yesterday with no problems, i plan to buy a bike and take it into Argentina, so i guess i need to get the Promesa, the question is, do i need to get this when i get this when i buy the bike or can i get it anytime?

Also does the 6 months start from when you leave Chile or when you get the promesa from the notary?

Thanks in advanced guys!

It starts if you will leave the country.

To buy a bike you will be at the notary, so do it at the same time...

Thats great!

Thank you pickypalla for your help. I am picking my bike up on Monday fingers crossed.

I will post when i cross the border, hopefully everything goes to plan :)

Hi guys,

This news has rocked me slightly as I am planning a trip to drive from Santiago to Mexico starting in October.. The plan was to buy a bike in Santiago and sell it at the end of the trip before flying home but it looks like this may not be possible anymore.

Does anyone think there will be a way around this? If not I see my options being:

a) Buy bike here (London) and ship over to Santiago for the start of my trip
b) Buy bike in Santiago and sell it at the end without papers, and therefore sell cheaply
c) Buy bike in Santiago and ship it back to a buyer in Chile at the end of my trip (within 6 months).

I would appreciate any guidance from experienced travellers to Chile or anyone currently in the country!

Thanks, Richard

Go with a, and ship the bike back home. Continue to use the bike, with all it's stickers :-). I am still riding the bike I rode from Canada (2010) to south America and back to the UK. It has since round the World (northern hemisphere) and Morocco.

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Thanks BruceP, yes I am swaying toward that although I have heard from one of the shipping companies that you cant get used bikes into the country. Apparently you can only ship brand new bikes in... this seems unlikely - any thoughts on that?

There is a hostel in Valparaiso, Kunterbunt IIRC. They deal with shipping bikes all the time. Have you contacted James Cargo about flying?

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I was staying at Villa Kunterbunt last november and had them helping me with shipping my bike in to Valparaiso and so where several others too both bikes and cars and all vehicles were used/second hand and it wasnt any problems with that whatsoever (except that the custom staff were on strike and it was difficult to get the bikes through customs)

So unless there are some brand new rules or regulations about this I think it should be no problem to ship a used bike to Chile.

Buy or Ship
 

Thanks both, I have got a quote from James Cargo, Motofreight and Gravel Road, also waiting to hear back from Hostels Villa Kunterbunt and Casa Matte. Between all of them I should be able to get enough advice to make the decision. If anyone has any other contacts or recommendations in Chile please let me know?

It looks like the cost of shipping to Chile is roughly £2k once you include cost of getting through customs etc, this is a big chunk of our budget so I am still exploring the option to buy the bike in Santiago and try to sell it on at the end of the trip in Central America. Recognise this will probably have to be at a loss based on the illegality of selling outside of Chile now, but it may still work out cheaper than shipping in.

Does anyone know if I will have problems getting over borders as I get closer to the 6 month limit?

You can't take bike out of Chile anymore.
 

Hi,

I have been traveling around SA on my bike which bought in Chile for sometime. During my nearly 9 months long stay in Chile I went in and out to Argentina. The last time I wanted to do though I wasn't allowed due to the recent change in the law - unless you have a permanent residency you can't take any vehicle out.

If you have already bought one I advise you to try to escape by Passo Roballo in Patagonia. There is just one lonely looking border worker who does not care. At least did not 2,5 - 3 months ago. May have changed even there. Also heard that paso Agua Negras in the mid north was safe to leave. But better avoid buying there all together. Every time I cross the border I get questioned and have to play silly.

V.

Please keep us informed on this as the issue develops...

Any updates?
 

Does anyone have any recent updates on this issue? I will be there in October and still debating what to do.

2 options I have been given are :
- buy a bike from ridechile and ship it back to them at the end of the trip for an agreed cost - driving as a rental therefore eligible to leave the country.
- make sure that you purchase a non Chilean registered/plated vehicle, then you are good to leave with it.

Has anyone tried these options or similar?

Update on taking bikes out of Chile
 

I have spent the last two months trying to deal with this problem, I will give full details of what i have done below but the short version is that it is no longer possible for foreigners to take any vehicle out of Chile by any means.

What i have done:

Firstly i purchased my bike new in Santiago with a local friend helping me get my RUT. Once i had all the paperwork back i attempted to cross the boarder but was turned back because of the "foreigners cant take bikes out" rule. That was the end of that!

Following this i went back to Santiago a little confused so i called the Aduana (boarder patrol guards) They told me that it was possible to take the bike out of the country if it was registered in a Chileans name. He can then make me out a poder (Which allows me to use the bike and take it out of the country). So another week passed while i transferred the bike to my Chielan friend and got all the paperwork back. Eventually headed back to the boarder, turns out (according the the Aduana at the boarder) That what i was told by the other Aduana inst true and that only Chilean residents can cross the boarder with a vehicle and they refused to let me out, i tried three different times at two different boarder crossings and was turned back each time.

This is the end of the trip for me, i am now heading back to Santiago to sell the bike and get out of dodge.

From my experience it is game over for Chile, there is no way to do it. I have spent more than two months in total trying to no avail.

Note for Rrichardfrost: From my personal experience unfortunately neither of your ideas will work. The issue is not with ownership, it is with you being foreign. So it doesn't matter if you rent or buy (i have effectively done both) the issue of being foreign will still stop you crossing.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for anyone reading this, just trying to avoid someone else wasting all the time & money that i have!

It will be interesting if someone was to check with Ride Chile. It is part of their business to allow foreigners to rent and go to Argentina

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Thanks for the message Daniel - sorry to hear that the end of your trip has been affected by this law change but I appreciate your advice to hopefully save me and others the same trouble.

I had spoken with Ridechile prior to your message about shipping back to them at the end of the trip, they were confident that a rental would be possible to get over the border but now I am not so sure based on what you say. I will speak with them again as I guess people are only just starting to get used to this change.

If not, the only option will be to buy a non Chilean registered bike at the start of a trip although I imagine they are relatively hard to come by.

Thanks, Richard

Not sure if this helps, but I'm trying to sell a US registered KLR in Chile in Sept 2017. Could you take that over the border?

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...650-sale-92375

Hi fatmouseworldwide - i am interested, just responded to your other post.

I tried to visit that web page, but:

"This page can’t be displayed

• Make sure the web address http://www.susisantiago.com is correct."

Perhaps you have the address spelled incorrectly..?

Google is your friend. It is Suzi, not Susi.

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Ah. https://www.suzisantiago.com/

Selling a bike in Chile not Argentina
 

Hi, I'm reviving this thread for selling a bike in South America rather than shipping home. With Argentina being so strict I was hopeful that it may be possible to sell a moto in Chile ?
According to the post in ADV rder: Selling a bike in Argentina. | Adventure Rider
It appears I can sell a UK registered bike legally in the Free [Trade] Zones of Puntas Arenas in the south and Iquique in the north - Is this TRUE?
Many thanks :)

OH just found this thread - processing info now...
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...que-free-70039

I spent a good bit of time in Punta Arenas as my bike broke down there and I was in touch with other travellers that wanted to sell their bikes in the Zona Franca", I was in contact with local bikers and bike shops and even with Aduana.

To sell it to another foreign traveller using a socalled "Poder" is more difficult in Zona Franca than other parts of the country. The reason for that is that the Notariuses down there not willing to write such a Poder for a foreign person to another foreign person. Dont ask me why - I just followed another traveller that tried really hard to sell his bike to another traveller and he was doing the canossa walks to Aduana and all the Notariuses in town several times - in vain.
You can import the bike permanently to Chile which will take at least a month and you will have to pay a whole lot of tax and fees - and according to the new rules the buyer will not be allowed to take the bike out of the country if he is a foreign tourist.

On the other hand - it is possible to sell it to a local citizen. He will still need to import it to the country and get chilean plates on it and the chilean owner will only be allowed to use it in the Zona Franca region but are allowed to take it outside for 3 months at a time.

D-Day
 

Hi guys, my wife and I have arrived in Santiago to start our 6 month trip north. I have two options:
- buy a US registered bike (2009 KLR 650)
- buy a Chilean bike on chileauto through Suzi Santiago who are confident they can get us out of the country.

The US bike would be easier to sell in Mexico, but does anyone foresee any issues getting this out of Chile or any other countries?

thanks

Success..!
 

Following the message above, we bought a Chilean registered moto (VStrom 650) and have been travelling down the Carretera Austral for the last few weeks, as far as the General Carrera lake and then back north to Futaleufu. Today was the big day that we would cross the border into Argentina and I am pleased to say that there were no issues at all. Thanks to whoever suggested using SuziSantiago in the above thread as Noam was brilliant at ensuring that we had all the right papers etc when we bought the bike in Santiago.

If anyone is still interested in buying a motorbike in Chile to travel North, but worried about whether it is still possible to leave the country as a foreigner I can say that it is definitely still possible!

Now we plan to drive North for the next 5 months before selling the bike in Colombia.

:clap:

Thanks for the update. It would be nice to know the details of the paperwork hoops needed to be jumped through.

Hi - I was asked to provide the following 4 documents in order to cross the border out of Chile.

RUT number/screen shot of RUT document, obtained in Santiago using address of a person living in Chile. I used the address of one of the guys from Suzi Santiago, but I met people at Hostel Casa Matte who used the owners address there too.

Padron document this is your ownership document and can take up to 21 days to be available following your purchase of a bike. You can pick it up from any Civil registry office in Chile, which means you can start to travel around while you wait. They just print it off a computer but we got it laminated too to make it look a bit more professional! As I purchased a second hand bike through a dealership, they sent the transferencia contract off in order to start the process for the name change - i think the previous owner may need to do this, but others on this forum probably know more than me about this. NB - I was told that if i needed to leave chile before the padron came through i should be able to cross by showing the transferencia document instead (basically proof that the transfer of ownership is in process, signed by both seller and buyer), but this will depend on your crossing.

Sworn document, (not sure of its name in spanish) this was recommended by Suzi Santiago and they actually had a good look at it on the border. It is a document obtained from any notary that essentially promises that you will return to Chile in order to sell your bike. Apparently there are ways around this if you do not actually plan to return but it seems useful to get either way. This is perhaps the loophole that you are talking about.

International insurance[/B] we bought this online from https://www.hdi.cl/seguros/seguros-d...nacional-rci/#

Hope that helps let me know if you want me to send images of any documents etc.

Buying a bike in Chile. Law Change.

Now, every foreigner must be Sponsored by a Chilean Resident, in order to get a RUT number. You need the RUT number ( Tax number ) to register any bike or car, in Chile.

I'm in Santiago as we speak. The process takes a number of hours, involving going to the local Tax Office and a Notari. ( lawyer )

I used Camilio Riosf. He speaks excellent English and of course Spanish. He walked with me, did the translating and filled out all the paperwork. With the queuing in line, I had my RUT number within 3 hours. Camilio was great to work with, he also runs an AirBnb, with secure parking for up to 8 bikes.In the nicest area of Santiago.Provincia. Tobalaba. It's a 4 bedroom, super modern, open plan apartment. With WiFi for about $15. ( I've been here for 13 days ).

He charges $90 each, to act as Sponsor and will do all the paperwork for you. The Notari is a separate fee, involved a quick stamp and about $8 to the Notari.

You can not buy a bike or car in Chile without a Sponsor now.

Camilio can be contacted on +56 9 77668780.

Email Camilio.rios.f@gmail.com

I hope this info helps as all other ways of registering and buying a bike in Chile, are obselete. Good news, thus guy sorts it all out for $90. O and Colvin & Colvin the local Honda dealership, can speak English and are aware of Camilio and sell the great XR 250 Tornado and CRF range. And offer a buy back facility. It's the cheapest way to ride Cole, as rental is about $140+ a day. Hola.

If you read Danielmolloy72’s posting on side 10 in this thread you will see that buying a bike in Chile isnt a problem as a foreigner. Taking the bike out of the country is.
Anyhow - please update us about how taking the bike through a border is going. I presume that your intention isnt to ride the bike in Chile only...

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Hi guys,


Does anyone know of someone in Santiago who's currently helping with RUT sponsorship?



I was going to send a message to Camilio Riosf, but his e-mail address bounces.



I'll be landing in Santiago in about 10 days and am planning to buy an R1200GS from a dealer, so I need to hustle ...

So, I don't know anyone who's doing it for free, but SuziSantiago is a company that helps foreigners with getting RUTs and all that. If you know someone, it's possible to go through the whole paperwork process, but it'll only take a couple hours if you do it with the company.

If you are buying from a dealer most will help with the RUT to get the sale. Otherwise you can ask Cristian at Casa Matte.

rut.bike
 

Hello, if you need help, count on me.
You send me an email and I could help you without costs for you.
or you could ask for help from cristian de casa matte.
minidirtbike gmail.com .is my mail.
regards

What is this about? I've heard it's not a problem, then that it is a problem for a foreigner to take a moto out of Chile. I've also heard there is a time limit that the moto can be out of Chile.

What of this is fact and what is fiction?

If you read the posting I was referring to you will find a few facts....

Fiction mostly
 

Earlier this year I was in Chile and met up with a number of foreigners who had purchased bikes in Chile and taken them to Argentina, Bolivia and Peru. In some cases a number of times. As far as I can see if the bike has Chile plates in your name (or you have a poder- official permission from the owner) then you can come and go as you please. As for a length of time outside Chile I don't know but it makes no sense as what will the authorities do if you don't come back? Ask the staff at Colvin and Colvin Honda dealers in Santiago. They sell bikes to foreigners and they say it is fiction. Not sure how this idea originated and spread. One of the reasons I spent big money taking my bike to Chile and it turns out to be FICTION

Maybe DanielMoloys experiences from last year is fiction too....:rolleyes2:

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Update on taking bikes out of Chile
I have spent the last two months trying to deal with this problem, I will give full details of what i have done below but the short version is that it is no longer possible for foreigners to take any vehicle out of Chile by any means.

What i have done:

Firstly i purchased my bike new in Santiago with a local friend helping me get my RUT. Once i had all the paperwork back i attempted to cross the boarder but was turned back because of the "foreigners cant take bikes out" rule. That was the end of that!

Following this i went back to Santiago a little confused so i called the Aduana (boarder patrol guards) They told me that it was possible to take the bike out of the country if it was registered in a Chileans name. He can then make me out a poder (Which allows me to use the bike and take it out of the country). So another week passed while i transferred the bike to my Chielan friend and got all the paperwork back. Eventually headed back to the boarder, turns out (according the the Aduana at the boarder) That what i was told by the other Aduana inst true and that only Chilean residents can cross the boarder with a vehicle and they refused to let me out, i tried three different times at two different boarder crossings and was turned back each time.

This is the end of the trip for me, i am now heading back to Santiago to sell the bike and get out of dodge.

From my experience it is game over for Chile, there is no way to do it. I have spent more than two months in total trying to no avail.

Note for Rrichardfrost: From my personal experience unfortunately neither of your ideas will work. The issue is not with ownership, it is with you being foreign. So it doesn't matter if you rent or buy (i have effectively done both) the issue of being foreign will still stop you crossing.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for anyone reading this, just trying to avoid someone else wasting all the time & money that i have!»

I met a German in Argentina yesterday, he bought one 4 days ago in Santiago. It took him 2 weeks.

I didn't ask him what to do, but there is a way.

Ask the Customs
 

I had not read this. In the absence of any new posts I have asked the Chile Customs via their on line service. Will post the reply when I get one. So far I got the receipt

Solicitud ingresada correctamente. Su número de Solicitud es: V476514

What the law says in Chile
 

Here is the link to the regulations in Chile on taking a vehicle out of the country as supplied by the Oficina de Informaciones, Reclamos y Sugerencias OIRS Servicio Nacional de Aduanas in Chile. in Dec 2018

https://www.aduana.cl/capitulo-4-sal...txt_cuerpo_T16
In 17.1 it says that according to the law chapter IV (17) you can't take a Chilean registered vehicle out of the country unless you have either a Chilean Identity card, a certificate of residency or domicile for foreigners or permanent residency all issued by the immigration authority. This applies to countries except Argentina and Bolivia. Section 17.2 covers the exit of vehicles to Argentina under the agreement between Chile and Argentina.

Section 17.2.3 Con todo, en caso que el conductor del vehículo fuere su propietario y tuviere nacionalidad extranjera deberá presentar declaración jurada simple ante Notario, en la cual se compromete a retornar el vehículo al país dentro del plazo autorizado. (Usually 180 days)

This says "In every case where the driver of the vehicle is the owner and has foreign nationality they must present a sworn declaration in front of a Notary in which they promise to return the vehicle to the country (Chile) within the authorised time frame.

Section 17.3 refers to the Temporary Exit and Entry Agreement for vehicles between Chile and Bolivia. It says this is the same as written in 17.1 above

So my understanding now is that unless you meet the residential requirements of 17.1 you can only take a Chilean registered vehicle you own out of Chile to Argentina and then only if you have the appropriate sworn statement (called a Poder). You definitely can't take the bike directly to Peru and I am almost certain you can't take it directly to Bolivia either

The requirements are detailed in a very helpful and accurate post here by Katalyst on 3/1/2019. He also mentions the local people at Suzi and the service they provide which looks to be well worthwhile and value for money
https://www.suzisantiago.com/ I would strongly recommend using this service as they are in constant touch with the day to day reality. I would avoid taking too much notice of travellers who have not been in the area recently http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...santiago-96943

The Question then arises as to if you can take the bike to a third country from Argentina. I think you can provided you have the all the papers in your name. It would be good to hear from other travellers

Why all the confusion? I think the rules are not enforced or followed exactly the same at each border post. This I have seen from entering Chile on my foreign registered bike.

It may be that buying a foreign registered bike in Chile is the easiest way but then you are limited by the 90 days that the bike can stay in Chile but at least you can cross any border with the appropriate poder etc

Poders are easy to get - it's the declaration jurada that I referred to in my original post. It is, as the Chilean government site states, simply a notarised / sworn declaration that you'll return the bike to Chile.


Absolutely obtain one as one of the process of buying the bike, but note that I crossed about 6 borders (Chile -> Argentina; Argentina -> Bolivia; Bolivia -> Chile; Chile -> Argentina; Argentina -> Chile) in two months and never needed the declaration jurada.


The documents that the aduanas/migraciones officers care about are the proof of ownership document and the authorisation (if the proof of ownership isn't in your name).


As for taking the vehicle into countries other than Argentina and Bolivia, I'd guess that the Chilean identity card that the site refers to is the RUT and its associated certificate, which is necessary for buying the bike anyway, so no problems there.

Identity card and temporary RUT
 

They are not the same thing. The temporary RUT is readily available to foreigners who want to make purchases in Chile like vehicles. A Chilean resident is needed to guarantee that if the foreigner incurs any tax liabilities and is not around to pay them then the guarantor will pay.

A Chilean ID card is a more complicated process involving immigration etc. Normally you need a job etc etc. The permanent RUT and the ID card seem to be one and the same thing or at least have the number. I had one a few years ago and it took a lot of lawyer time to get it.

But anyway I don't think you need a Chilean ID card to move from one country to another outside Chile with your Chilean registered bike. Just your passport and Patron or poder (ownership papers in your name or authority from the bikes owner)

Then, which do you think is the safest option to proceed to buy a bike in Chile?
1. Otaining a RUT, buying a new bike and resitering under your name? or
2. Buying a used bike and getting an notary autorization?
thanks

In this case he's refencing buying a used "FOREIGN" bike, IE not a Chilean registered bike. For example people sell American registered bikes in Chile, they usually get a "poder" then either ride the whole of south America on the Poder (whilst never being the actual owner of the bike) and then face a more complicated sale. Or they get someone like Alex Smith of overland title services to transfer the ownership to the new owner and make them new plates.

The service costs $600 usd roughly. And you'll need to still have a poder to cross the first border, at the border crossing you switch the plates to your new ones that Alex would have posted to you with DHL.

To leave Chile with a chilean bike you get a "declaración jurada" station that you'll return within one year. With this they'll give you a permito para circular to leave the country for a year with the bike. But far as I'm aware it's not a big deal if you go over the year.

Exiting Chile foreign resident with Chile registered bike
 

With the declaration you can only cross to Argentina. This is not to say you will not be able to cross to Peru or Bolivia but you are not legally permitted to do so. In the north of Chile people I spoke to had problems crossing even to Argentina but in the south like at Chile Chico it was much easier. Possibly because the only way south in Chile at that point is via Argentina. Once you are in Argentina it seems you can go where you like. As for the consequences I have never heard of any but keep in mind when you got your RUT to purchase the bike you needed a guarantor who was resident in Chile. It is that person who the Chilean customs will be looking for as the guarantee they gave was to cover any tax liabilities you might have in Chile. Since sales staff in some bike dealerships are willing to act as guarantor then you could assume the risk is very small. In my case having my own bike from my home country in my name was the best option, second was buying a foreign bike in Chile and using a poder (plus changing ownership as outlined above if you can) and third option was a Chile registered bike. All options are possible and the preference might change depending on where you are planning to ride. If mostly Chile and the south of Argentina the Chile bike is good as you are not limited to the 90 days in Chile at one time. Anyway this was the situation in March 2019

Amounts I've paid buying a motorbike in Chile
 

Hi All,

I'm fairly new to all this but have been following the forum for a while. I have not seen anyone posting the prices they have paid for purchasing bikes including all fees and accessories to get started traveling and such, so I just want to share mine. I'm sure it can be done for less, but hopefully this will give other people ideas of what expenses are involved when purchasing a motorcycle in Santiago. FYI I ended up with a small Honda XR190.
For the record, my motorcycle knowledge, time of traveling and Spanish language skills are limited which made me opt for some help from a local company Suzi Santiago. They help sorting all the things described in the first post of the thread. They are not necessary, but for me very helpful.

Motorcycle budget:
Suzi Santiago: 160.000 CLP
3 month insurance: 52.000 CLP
Motor Oil and chain oil (of course there'll be cost to general maintenance throughout the journey but this was my upfront cost) : 45.000 CLP
Phone holder: 13.000 CLP
Rack (this took a while to sort out how to add a rack for side cases on the XR. Only place that could help custom build it was JJR) : 75.000 CLP
Side cases: 45.000 CLP
Transfer fee (civil register and fee for Notaria) :102.000 CLP
Rut: 4700 CLP
Local atm fee: 33.000 CLP
Fee debit card: 33.000 CLP
Fee credit card: 48.000 CLP
Total cost without the cost of the MC: 610.700 CLP

The bike cost me 1.600.000 CLP. I expect to have about 15 % loss on it which will then have cost me: 240.000 CLP

Total cost of having purchased the MC: 850.700 CLP

I know these amounts will be different to other people and will depend on if they can buy the bikes themselves, have better ways of obtaining money for the purchase. But hopefully it provides a realistic view of the different expenses that are/can be involved in obtaining a bike in Santiago.
Still cheaper for me to buy it here than ship my own bike, but more expensive than I originally had imagined.

Happy riding!

I also went through Suzi Santiago and my cost were similar and honestly I don't know if I could do it without them. I bought a dr650 slightly used so saved some money from buying it brand new. Also, They have a meetings where they go over border crossings, the best borders to cross and a bunch of other useful info. Highly recommend.

American Plated Moto
 

Do you know if its best to buy an American Titled and Plated moto in Chile or Argentina by an AMERICAN? I am looking for a moto that I can buy, transfer title and plates while I am in the States,

Just buy a Chilean bike. More choice available. Get the paperwork done and ride with less hassle. Or ship your own.

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American Plated Moto
 

I don't want to ship mine, I am now going over my route and plans. I might buy in Chile, Argentina, or Brazil, and ride thru Brazil again, French Suriname, Guyana, and then back thru Lethem, and Boa Vista, Manaus, and back to Belem.OR MAYBE VENEZUELA WILL OPEN UP!!!! YIPPEEE, another reason to own my moto is flexibility as to my routes and drop off points for storage or sale.
I would consider a Chilean moto, but I thought a American plated moto in my name, with title transferred to me would definitely be easier than an American riding a foreign plated moto, especially crossing those borders.
I think a problem would be to transfer the TVIP? Brazil had been lax in issuing some TVIP and confusion if its been required? My thoughts are to transfer title,in the STATES, exit Brazil, and if entering another country get a new TVIP,?

Selling it or riding it back is still open option,, I would love to return again through my favorite country Peru!!!

Colombia
 

I bought a moto in Colombia, and now go on April 7th!!!

Vaccinated and ready to ride!!!
:clap:

Good luck. Hopefully things go smoothly for you!

Wow thank for all the info!

Permanently export Chilean bike?
 

Hello!

Anyone have experience with buying a buy in Chile and never returning it? I want to ride one from Santiago to USA.

Hi all,

Has anyone crossed borders in South/Central America with two vehicles (driven by different individuals) but both of the vehciles owned by only one individual?

My partner and I would like to drive x2 motorbikes from Chile to USA - both bikes are owned by me (so the paperwork is all in my name).

Will that be a problem when crossing borders?

Anyone have real life experience?

THANKS!

Hi Rory,

the owner of the vehicle needs to give a power of attorney to the driver.

Witnessed a vanlife-couple being rejected at the border Perú/Ecuador. She was driving his car. He had no licence. Although both were present, it caused a problem.

Keep sharing your experience. It is super valuable and interesting

Ride safe!
Martin

Hello,

Has anybody bought a bike and obtain all the documents using this process in the past couple of years? I want to check if it is the still same process till this day since the post was published in 2009. I am planning on visiting in Feb and looking to buy a used bike to travel.

thanks