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In case anyone else stumbles across this old thread, here is my most recent experience.
Baikal Complex (linked above) were zero help. I put my bike on the russian post train from Irkutsk to Moscow today. Had loads of help from Alexei, aka Monster. He won't mind me passing his details on. I'm taking the TranSiberian train in a couple of days. Always planned to do this, just don't fancy the boring ride west over the same highway. Heard lots of good things from other travelers about the train journey. Plus, I wiped out the other day on some wet tram tracks, so I fancy a few days resting up. Anyway here's his details: +7 950 0844465 mrmonster[at]mail[dot]ru Sorry, but it seems that Alexei can no longer be reached on these contact details, and as we didn't stay in touch, I have no other way of contacting him. He's a biker and a top bloke! He's helped peeps in the past and he apparently knows RTWDoug from his time here a few years ago. http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...a/IMG_1458.jpg Had to do it officially, I don't think its possible to do it unofficially anymore, at least not here, maybe at another smaller station. I tried to do it Doug style... It cost me 200 roubles for every 10kg, not inc crate building and loading/unloading by the dock guys, which was 3000 roubles. I paid 9400 roubles all in (£180). Unloaded bike (F8GS) was 233kg (inc 1/2 tank fuel), luggage (inc TT Zega boxes) was 43kg. Got charged for 300kg (that included the crate). Your supposed to drain the fuel but the dock guys said don't bother, as long as you keep it schtum, they know your f@$ked at the other end if you do. Will probably need to pay the dock guys in Moscow to unload and dispose of crate. Hope this helps someone. It's not an adventure if you don't have to crate the bike at least once, LOL. Steve bier |
bob66, you can as well send the bikes from Germany directly to Ulan Bataar by truck. I will do it next summer to ride the road of bones.
it costs about 1100 euro one way, here is the contact. Say that David Zimmermann gave you the contact, I already had a few emails with this guy, very helpful. Andreas König Pan Europa Transport (Süd) GmbH Bietigheimer Str. 62 71732 Tamm Tel: +49 7141 97487 35 Fax: +49 7141 97487 29 www.pan-europa.de |
We put our bikes on the train from Omsk to Ulan Ude this summer. Easy as too. Just rocked up at Omsk railway station, found the help desk, told them what we wanted to do, and it was fine. No bookings, no hassle and it was 'official' too. Cost about £78.00 for both bikes. They went on a freight train the next day whilst we went on the passenger version, and much to our surprise ( and delight) they arrived just two hours after we did, and just like the man said. Neither of us speak Russian either, but the whole thing was very easy. :thumbup1:
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Make sure you know all the requirements for freighting (rather than riding yourself across a land border) that Mongolia Customs put in your way. You'll require an ATA Carnet (not a Carnet de Passage). One of the stipulations is, if it's a motor vehicle, it cannot be used on a public road!:funmeterno: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...t-carnet-58804 I freighted my bike this year to Almaty and the bike is now parked in UB, Mongolia. In early/mid July next year I'll be heading for Magadan. What are your plans. Maybe PM me or send an email (address in my website). cheers Chris |
Hi Chris,
very strange what you tell me about the fact that it is not allowed to be driven on public roads? I already was in Mongolia in 2011 and I really wonder if anybody is caring for that. I think I even never saw a policeman. My plan is to start my journey in UB mid/end july 2013 and ride to Magadan trought the old summer road. Then Probably trying to sell the bike in Vladivostok or ride back to UB and sell it there... or ship it home, not sure yet... I will contact you per email zimiontheloose.ch | Rock'n'roll Motorcycle Adventure! |
Since last year the London Chamber of Commerce has changed their wording for issuing ATA Carnets. It is now even more unambigous:
The London Chamber of Commerce A carnet may not be used for:
I received your email, thanks. I will reply, but I'm flying tomorrow morning back to the UK and then at work on Monday where I'll be real busy for a couple of weeks. So I might not have time to chat right away. Things will settle down though, I hope. |
As I've had a couple of follow-up questions, thought I might share the info here.
If you want some assistance sorting out yourbike shipping and ticket purchase just send Alexei an email, he's a lovely guy, I'm sure he'll help you out. His details are here. Sorry, but it seems that Alexei can no longer be reached on these contact details, and as we didn't stay in touch, I have no other way of contacting him. It took a couple of days after I arrived in Moscow for the post train to arrive. Finding the place to collect it was a nightmare: I didn't speak Russian, they didn't speak English and the women have no interest in helping you they just want to get rid of you. I stayed at at the Chillax Hostel, not far from the station, you could easily walk it or get the Metro, which is only a couple of stops. I eventually found it though, its a bit out of the way: about a mile from the main Yaroslavsky station. The GPS co-ordinates of the cargo depot are 55.782652, 37.655773 the depot entrance is at the end of 'Krasnosel'skiy tupik' here is the google map link. There's a couple of great guys there that will help you. Here's a street view of the place: http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...Russia/1-3.jpg |
stephen, thanks for the info, that's helpful, even for someone living in Moscow.
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BTW: they didn't charge me to unload the bike in Moscow or dispose of the crate/frame. Don't know if they simply forgot, but was chuffed not have to pay more. My bike was actually 1 of 4 on the train, there were 3 Swiss KTMs to keep my girl company.
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www.jde.ru -delivery of freights by rail
www.pecom.ru -delivery of freights by truks On a site there is on-line calculator of calculation prices |
I was trying to get Contact with Baikalcomplex.
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At the moment I still dont know i i drive back home to vienna all the way from UB ore take the train to moscow. If i take the train to moscow, i would go from moscow over Lithuania and Latvia back home. Which seems also interesting. Lets see, if i dont find a transport, i will drive and haver fun too |
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i wrote an email to mrmonster
now waiting if i get information THX |
Stephen, thanks but:
mail = no answer phone is not working... So Alexei is either on holiday or no longer available... Anyway, did it all by myself officially, and will make a new post about this in a few hours with pictures and coordinates on how to do it from Irkutsk going West or East. |
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