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Chris Scott 5 Jun 2020 23:05

AQIM chief Al-Qaeda chief Abdelmalek Droukdel killed
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52943692

Nabbed just as they rested in a oued, we are told.

budric 8 Jun 2020 14:55

Shame he could not have been taken alive. The trial and sentencing would have potential for the forces of good. To kill him is to make him a martyr for the causes of evil. The same with Bin Laden.
Yet, end of an era, insha'Allah his replacement is nothing like as influential or effective, or as good with explosives.
All quiet here in Mauri,
Zoubir el Inglizi

priffe 8 Jun 2020 21:05

Amazing it took 16 years to get him. And perhaps not surprising it was in Mali.
Not much going on in Algeria anymore, jihad-wise. At least not in the open.
No attacks, no statements, no videos, nothing.
But it was exported to twenty other countries.

Enjoy your day in Chinguetti, Zoubir.

Chris Scott 8 Jun 2020 22:26

It is amazing. Hard to think it's possible to travel from eastern Alg where they say he hid, all the way down to the Mali border undetected.
Anyone might have thought he was protected in Alg.
As long as he made his chaos over the border he was left alone or maybe even helped to do it there.

yours sincerely

J Keenan

priffe 9 Jun 2020 12:44

So somebody gave him up, and the french were waiting for him.
The end of Aqim then, all leaders gone and defeated on Algerian soil.
Perhaps Algeria will become the next safe place to go in the Sahara?
Some more details
https://www.theafricareport.com/2948...illed-in-mali/

Chris Scott 9 Jun 2020 14:40

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I read that earlier but found it failed to live up to its title.
It mentions Abu Zeid's death in 2013 like it was somewhere else.

... in the Adrar des Ifoghas, the mountainous massif in the extreme north-east of Mali.

and not just 50km from where Droukdel got caught. Maybe something more detailed will emerge later.

You'd think Iyad Ag Ghaly must be top of the list by now.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200608...qaeda-is-group

Hard to think that Droukdel's death will open up Algeria for tourism as we knew it
More detauls: http://lignesdedefense.blogs.ouest-f...dal-21233.html

priffe 9 Jun 2020 16:11

Well not just his death but the defeat of Aqim.
The rest is politics.
They could open up today if they wanted to.
I hear even Kabylie is pretty safe these days.
They've had a massive military presence since the poor French bloke lost his head.

gdz 14 Jun 2020 11:19

As long as there was no DNA test, I cannot trust the french.

gdz 14 Jun 2020 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Scott (Post 612003)
It is amazing. Hard to think it's possible to travel from eastern Alg where they say he hid, all the way down to the Mali border undetected.
Anyone might have thought he was protected in Alg.
As long as he made his chaos over the border he was left alone or maybe even helped to do it there.

yours sincerely

J Keenan

Just read the article above:

While he was said to be hiding somewhere in eastern Algeria, holed up with his close guard in the dense scrub near the Tunisian border, or sheltered in Libya, Droukdel was shot after he had just crossed the vast Algerian desert to seek refuge in Mali, which has become a sanctuary for Islamist activism.

He was hiding on the Chaambi mountains, from Tunisia, he could then easily go to Libya and from there to Mali.
I honestly believe he went through Niger where there are american drones, and probably from there the french intelligence with the help of the US got information about his position

priffe 19 Jun 2020 00:37

They did DNA testing.
He was found by the Americans using voice recognition.
Tipped off the French.
Unclear if it was a convoy or just one vehicle.
And if a drone was used.
https://sahelblog.wordpress.com/2020...oukdel-strike/

https://twitter.com/SimNasr

gdz 21 Jun 2020 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by priffe (Post 612283)
They did DNA testing.
He was found by the Americans using voice recognition.
Tipped off the French.
Unclear if it was a convoy or just one vehicle.
And if a drone was used.
https://sahelblog.wordpress.com/2020...oukdel-strike/

https://twitter.com/SimNasr

The article you cited mentions the use of a drone by the U.S.

Quote:

According to this source, the U.S. identified Droukdel’s voice and located him when Droukdel placed a phone call, and then turned that information over to the French. According to the same source, an American drone fired the first shots at Droukdel’s convoy, lighting the way for French helicopters that then destroyed the convoy.
Knowing that the U.S has a military base in Niger for surveillance and they use drones massively, I believe that the path Tunisia -> Libya -> Niger -> Mali is the correct one, but anything can be possible

Chris Scott 21 Jun 2020 22:07

I read that he never ever ever used the phone.
That's how he survived so long.

But the quote in the link from Geoff Porter explained a lot.

Chris Scott 9 Aug 2020 19:44

Six French [tourists] aid workers among 8 shot near Niamey
 
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https://www.france24.com/en/20200809...-governor-says

Happened at a giraffe reserve near Kouré, 60km SE of Niamey and possibly along an axis designated as requiring only 'added vigilance', (yellow) according to the French govt MAE map below.

Some say ISGS were behind it.

priffe 9 Aug 2020 22:27

Was there in 2014. Amazing and very sad the number of places in WA I have been over the last 12 years that are now impossible to visit.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fZ...-no?authuser=0

netllama 15 Aug 2020 04:50

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Originally Posted by priffe (Post 613539)
Was there in 2014. Amazing and very sad the number of places in WA I have been over the last 12 years that are now impossible to visit.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fZ...-no?authuser=0

The world has become an increasingly unstable place in the past 20 years, unfortunately.

Do you happen to have more photos from that trip that you can share somewhere?


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