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Tim Cullis 7 Mar 2014 10:50

Hana Ptackova of Motoadventours is taking nine client bikes in the next few days and says she will report back.

I wonder whether there's a difference according to who owns the vehicles? Maybe the problem only arises when they are all your own vehicles and if they are client bikes it's OK?

Foxy V-Strom 10 Mar 2014 08:51

Thanks Chris,
looking forward to visiting Morroco http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...s/biggrin2.gif

pera 10 Mar 2014 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 457253)
Hana Ptackova of Motoadventours is taking nine client bikes in the next few days and says she will report back.

I wonder whether there's a difference according to who owns the vehicles? Maybe the problem only arises when they are all your own vehicles and if they are client bikes it's OK?

If the owners of motorcycles are with her, she´ll have no problem.

A friend works as guide in Morocco and he had to bring ATA carnet for each bike, it cost more or less 90€/bike.

str3tch 21 Apr 2014 10:55

I've just posted my positive experience of bringing two bikes through Ceuta in my name, see http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...t.php?p=462959


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Martin Janseus 16 Dec 2014 23:34

So what is the final verdict?
 
Hi guys,

Was looking though the threads and this one got me somewhat nervous. Me and my brother was going to drive to Quarzazate from southern Sweden with;
1. Mercedes Vito (owned and registered by me) loaded with...
2. Yamaha TTR (owned and registered by me)
3. Yamaha XTR (owned and registered by my brother)
... and hopefully pass though customs on 1/1 2015 but from what I read in this thread that could become troublesome :cursing:

From what Tim is describing initially, this would not work as I understand it but from pera and str3tch last posts it seems like it it could if you bring a carnet.

Could someone please reassure us if this will work, and possibly indicate what documents/arguments to bring to get the least amount of hassle?

samyonboard 8 Jan 2015 22:16

How did it go? I entered I car, one trailer, One Bok on Trailer and one KTM Bike on my name last winter via Tanger Ville. Took a while and the boss had to come out of his office (he noticed that the Trailer and box were not connected permanently) But he somehow squeezed everything on that sheet of paper and got me in... Patience will get you in and back out ;-)

Welcome to Africa...

Pippo De Santis 17 Oct 2015 09:15

Temporary import moto and trailer to Morocco
 
Hi ! anybody knows if Ata carnet works when if I pass through port med tanger custom with car trailer and 4 motobikes without the owners?
Any adress or mail of reliable local guide or person than can help me in this mess?
I will appreciate!
Thanks

africanik 11 Jan 2016 20:21

Does anybody have fresh info on this?

I plan to drive through Morocco with a car and two bikes (one on my name) on a trailer, to go to Mauritania. I'd be arriving at Tangier Med.

I know for first hand experience that D16ter's and whatever procuration will (most probably) not make it. A few years ago a friend was denied access with a van loaded with 3 bikes, including mine, so I and the other fellow had to fly to Tangiers. There was no problem to enter with van+1bike on one passport, more was apparently not allowed at the time, or at least not in the mood of officers. And things have been evolving for worse apparently...

So the open questions are:
-Any fresh experience on using an ATA carnet for bikes, as per pera's suggestion?
-If the bikes are on the carnet, will the trailer be counted as a separate vehicle, or they don't care about it? Are they strict with the one passport, one veichle rule, in particular for what regards trailers?
-Any experience on handing the ATA carnet on exit at the border with Mauri, and when entering back? (I wonder if the Mauri border post handles carnets at all. Maybe one has to stop by the customs offices in Laayoune or Dakhla)
-Any other recently tested recipe?

Thanks!!!
Nicola

africanik 15 Jan 2016 17:26

So I sent an email to the customs, and this is the answer I got:

"Suite à votre mail, je vous informe que le véhicule, les 2 motos et la remorque seront admis sous le régime de l’admission temporaire moyennant la souscription via le site internet de cette administration : www.douane.gov.ma de déclaration d’admission temporaire de moyens de transports D16 Ter. Ces déclarations seront présentées au service de la douane accompagnées des cartes grises originales du véhicule, des motos transportées et la remorque.

Les motos seront annotées par le service sur le corps de la déclaration D16 Ter accordée pour le véhicule.

Considérations distinguées.

africanik 16 Jan 2016 14:15

I wonder if this isn't exactly what they did in samyonboard's case ("squeezing" all vehichles on the car's D16ter)?

I must say that in my email I specified that I'll just carry the bikes for transit to reach Mauri (which should imply that I do not intend to drive them in Morocco). No idea if this makes any difference though.

Anyhow, it remains to be seen if officers at the border agree with this kind of workaround. Of course, if necessary I can now show a printed copy of this email, which is sent by a named officer of the central administration and with the"Chef de Service" in cc. So something more formal than an answer from a random guy of the information office.

I will post when I will figure out the hard way...

Andrea XR 23 Jan 2016 21:17

Hi to all, I'm planning a trip to morocco next april with some frineds of mine
We will send the bike with an our friend with his toyota and a trailer with 6 motorbikes on it

problem with customs, papers or something else ?
i know about "original cart gris" and the D16ter module
other things to be know ?
My friend will be able to import temporarly 6 motorbike with his toyota ?

thanks in advance
Andrea

Grandru 27 Jan 2016 15:12

to make it easyer, i have asked it last sunday at the border and they told me: one vehicule + one motorcycle nothing more. ????
Otherwise you have to be with more people in the car.

I was also planning to take some bikes into morocco:(

africanik 27 Jan 2016 16:02

Thanks for sharing. What border was it?

It's pretty confusing at this point, I even got a notification that the answer to my question (see my post above) was archived with a reference number, and I can see it online in the customs website...
There's a field for a followup, I can use it to report what they said to you and ask for a clarifcation; just let me know which border so that I pretend I know for sure from a friend.

Grandru 27 Jan 2016 18:05

It was Tanger

africanik 27 Jan 2016 19:11

Thanks. Posted a follow up request for clarifications.

PS: as I mentioned I specified clearly in my original question that I just wanted to transit to Mauri, that is maybe seen as different than bringing half a dozen bikes for a group of people to fly in and ride them within Morocco. Though of course there's no way to demonstrate that this is your real intention.

I'll let you know if there is any answer.

Cheers,
Nicola


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