Iveco Daily 4x4
 

Thoughts on ability (in Sahara)? Experiences?

Sam.

iveco4x4
 

i have just bought a 40-10 4x4 flat bed that i will be converting to a camper, well what I am thinking of is bolting a caravan on the back as this will be a cheap option and I can take the van off and I have transport wherever I am. I have spent a lot of time and money in the past converting a 608 merc to go to india and dont wont to do it again!

I would love to hear from anyone with a 40-10 to share tips so the desert/off road suitibilty interests me as well

Graeme

i,m on my second iveco 4x4 now,only sold last on as swb & needed more room.My only concern with fitting caravan on rear is how long it will last once your on the corrigations but a cheaper options than full build(i've converted a merc 508 too along with a iveco 4x4)Ive had no problems with there off road ability in sand or mud but once stuck they take some digging out(4 ton),so, make sure you have a good compressor,spade & plates.Good luck & go 4 it.

raised air intake
 

Where can I find one of these for an Iveco 4x4?
Sam.

This is just a suggestion as I have no idea what they are really like, but I've often wondered about the possibilities of converting a 4x4 Ford Transit. Worth looking into?
Matt

In Transit
 

Hi Matt
I did buy one of these as they are a good size, and cheap and easy to get bits for. But because they are monocoque, I could see the dampers coming through the cab floor after a day of corrugations, (and they arn't called Dagenham dusbins for nothing) so bought an Iveco, as its mounted on a solid chassis and much better built.
Happy Travels
Bruce

thanks for the tips, I know what your saying about the caravan falling to pieces on courogated roads, but I am thinking that I can always repair stuff and it is so cheap. If I spend £1000 I can get one in good condition and new enough to be light. I am thinking to take the body of the Iveco so I can cut down the wieght. I have heard of someone india with one on a truck and I have seen it done in the uk.
Graeme

Hi,
I’ve had one since 2000, coachbuilt onto the 3.2m wheelbase chassis. The box is grossly overweight so mine will never see the high dunes, but in the gently rolling dunes of western Mori it was very well behaved, plodded along with the engine screaming. Our guide in his 4.2l Jeep kept on getting stuck but I think he was a bit too heavy footed (a case of too much power for sand?) and on 15” tyres. I didn’t dare stop to help him, the sand was way too soft to take a stop-start.
They’re very tough, and popular with the German Saharians. No need for any of that LR after market protection bunk, they come with a sump and transfer case guard strong enough to jack even my 5.5t version on.
The 2.5 TD is great, it has a timing CHAIN in a water and sand proof casing, bloody noisy though. At only 100 hp it’s worth looking at tuning options.
With a bit of grinding you can get 9 x 16 tyres under the civvy cab, and the gearing’s designed for them; my workshop manual shows a stripped chassis version with the same ratios but 9x16 tyres, and the military ones have that as standard.

Issues:
The outside CV boot seems to be a bit fragile and requires extra vigilance.
It’s a mini HGV chassis, and as such it’s the chassis that twists first, rather than the suspension (there’s a good photo on exremecamper.com). I’ve seen a Daily van that had to be extensively rewelded and reinforced around the front doors and our furniture unscrews itself from the walls because of the flex in the body.

Graeme, I would recommend a diamond style mounting similar to the Mog system. The caravan lends itself quite well to that: hard mount the caravan’s axle part transversally and then attach a single pivot at the front (and rear if there’s enough chassis) of the caravan. The caravan will follow the twist at the axle level of the truck, and the pivot will allow it to.

Happy preparations
Luke

3
 

I've actually bought three now (they're difficult to find though - got them in Belgium, France and Italy!!).

They are great, looking forward to trying them in the rough stuff. BUT you don't want to be in a hurry (and mine are the 2.8L)!

Sam.

snorkels
 

Sorry, saw an earlier post of mine.

Raised air intakes are a standard IVECO part - and not even that expensive!

Sam.

Hi Sam, forgot to mention, that battery tray cantilevered out as it is doesn't like corrugations.
It's only spot-welded in place and pulls off quite easily under a decent battery; might be worth your while investigating relocating them under a cab seat.

Leaves a perfect space for a compressor (which is lighter).
Happy trails
Luke

caravan mounting
 

Hi Luke, can you explain what you mean by diamond mounting like the mog , is that unimog?
Graeme

Unimog three point
 

It is a Unimog, and it is a three point system that supports the rear load bed(not 4).

Sam.

The long and short of it
 

True, the short payload attachment is a simple triangle, allowing the chassis to flex but not transmitting it to the payload bay/box.

Unicat and the like use a 4 point fixing on the 6x6 Mog and other long boxes (MAN, Mercedes etc.). Applying the same principle of the triangle, but with two of them back to back (can triangles have backs?) So that two opposing points are at each end of the payload area of the chassis, halfway between the longitudinal chassis members and form a central load bearing pivot, and the wide part is midway along the payload area, rubber block mounted giving the box lateral stability.

Make any sense? I think there's a photo of a chassis being twisted at www. extremecamper.com in which you can see the back pivot.
Happy trails
Luke

Hi Matt/Sam, So it is not really making sense! I get the bit about two triangles back to back. So what do you mean as for fixing...should I make a chassis for the caravan that is the two triangles and then fix that to the chassis of the iveco in only four places, one at each point of the what is now a diamond.
I am not sure if I am getting this!? it it possible for you to post a diagram? or email me?
I really want to take the caravan off of its own chassis as to make it as low as possible.

thanks graeme

attached is a sketch of where to put the four fixing points for an off road truck with open U section chassis rails. The some of the axle articulation comes from the flex designed into the chassis.

Tubular chassis rails like LR, Bremach, Tatra (well sort of) give significantly lower flex and you can get away with direct or rubber bush mounting along the rails.

Keep some of the caravan chassis, it will be less likely to fall apart if it's on its original support structure. You can always twin the rear wheels if you feel the track is too narrow for the height.
Luke

How's parts availablity for Iveco engines in north Africa?

Hi,
The engine block is a Sofim, the same as the peugeot /citroen/fiat Boxer jumper ducato.
The turbo is either KKK or Garrett; a standard model for most non-jap 2.5 TDs
The injection is Bosch
The timing is by chain so you don't have to think about that.

The starter is F'ing hard to get to without dismantling the exhaust system, but it's a Magnetti unit
The alternator is a fairly standard magnetti marelli job, I found an 80 amp one that fitted for not much in a car parts dealer.

Clutch is a big and expensive hgv one, if you're a novice dune basher it might be worth taking one along. We set off with 40000kms on our clutch without a spare; 30000kms later around WA there was no difference. In most of Europe it's a 4T truck derated to 3.5T, but it's the same powertrain that's mounted on the 6T 4x2 Dailys you see in the UK; ours weighs 5T.

CS's book talks about what spares to take, add the injector piping that is specific to that engine layout, take a few sets of filters and you should be fine. (FYI an oil filter at the importer in Togo was double the European price!)

Tip to save fuel filters/injection pumps: fit huge tanks, then you can be more choosy about where you fill up :)

I prefer to rely on DHL and a dealer at home, if you're careful you should be able to avoid breaking anything big.

I must stop going on about how good they are.
Daily 4x4 fan
Luke

Hi Luke, thanks for the sketch, as I have not bought a caravan yet I have no idea what the original chassis will be like, although I am presuming they are all roughly the same as the ones I have looked at. these seem to have the wooden floor of the caravan bolted directly to the said chassis, can I not take it off of that and then make my own diamond (two triangle) chassis bolt the caravan to that and then bolt the diamond as you suggest to the Iveco chassis? Should I use rubber mountings and if so what type? I have seen other boxes with rail type chassis bolts to the truck with u-bolts like leaf spring u-bolts. Am I looking for something as flexible as possible?
You seem to be very knowledgable on this subject, is it something you have done yourself?

weight
 

Luke whats the plated weight of your iveco? As mine weights 5 ton too.

weight watchers
 

It's plated at 3.5T!
I keep on wondering where the weight is, as a camper van's essentially an empty box!
It must be the marine ply the guy built the walls from, although the 2x130l fuel tanks, the 150l water tank, the winch, the genny/aircon and its 60l tank don't help :-)
To take the load he swapped the rear studs for the long version (standard Iveco 2wd part) and twinned up the rear wheels. Makes it 2.2m wide which helps for stability too.

Luke

I spoke to iveco uk on friday, who said i can upplate to 4.5 ton(£265 for a paper exercise).but as leaving uk tomorrow so will have to wait till i get back next spring.Have 900x16 xs tyres which can carry the load but a bit twitchy on corners.but hoping to change to xzl's when back from trip,anyone got experience with xzl's on iveco?

iveco questions help any one
 

Hi folks

just bought seconed hand swb 4x4 iveco 1993 hope fully will transport me and partner on two year in 2008. A bit concerned about room thought of cutting off rear body of van and replacing with grp body to try and get extra couple of feet on rear and six inches on sides. Grays world did you ever fix on a caravan body and how did it work?

Sorry if Ihave butted in on someone elses thread but couldnt work out how to start new one. Luckly my parctical skills are better than my computer skills.

cheers Mark
suffering the daily grind to fund a life of adventure

chop shop
 

Hi, welcome to the in hurried half deaf crowd :)
structurally you could cut off the back and put something else on, as they have a real chassis so the body isn't structural.
It's not something to take lightly; the DVLA might have something to say about it, but then seeing what Foley and others do with LRs there must be a way to keep them happy.


XZL tyres under an Iveco: I only have experience of the 7.5x16 and 235x85x26 on 5.5 rims and I'm happy.
Very good up front, wobbly as a high tyre is they are progressive so you get plenty of warning that you're pushung an OR tyre too hard on the tar.
On the back I've mixed 2 XZY inside and 2 XZL outside in 7.5 x 16.
The combination would have done well over the 60000 oddkm it had already done if I hadn't blown out one of the Y's (thank you Hassan :(
Put another Y in its place (off the front so same kms) and we're still on them (just)
What I like about the Ls is there are no steel radials to fatigue when you run them soft, so the shell is supple and bends around angry rocks rather than piercing.

Pity they're so expensive, but I suppose you get what you pay for.
Enjoy the planning
Luke

As most of this type of vehicle are regarded as commercials, inc Land Rover the DVLA, police etc expect the bodies/bodyworkk will be played with - read chopped about. And will poss morph with different owners, so as long as the vehicle can pass an mot you will have no problems on that front.

Chris

ahhh the iveco !
 

Well people we may be in the minority (land cruisers and landrovers everywhere!) but we know we've got the best !
So i got my ex RAF 4x4 finally converted and very happy indeed with the little beasty.
Now having read the threads i reckon that you experienced users may be able to help me a little.

wheels & tyres ?
running Michelin XZY's are these preferable to the BF Goodrich All terrain 235/85 ?
split rims ? i am being told these will be hell to fix out in the field ? any body got advice on this ? should i perhaps be looking to change for more standard ? either way i only have 5 and 6 would be better - anybody know location of 1 ?

handbook ? being ex military i got nothing, does anybody have copy of any form of handbook (std or workshop manual), maybe a scanned or digital version if not an original - bloody annoying when don't know what warning lights mean !!!

raised air intake ? where can i buy one from ?????

Speedo is playing up, was intermittent but now stopped altogether, anyone know is it electronic or just a cable (i've been told both !!!!) ???

Anybody know of any tips to tune engine and improve that power slightly ???

I need a compressor !!!!! ????

Thanks
Phil.

Having been considering getting something soon to overland in I was reading through this thread two days ago.

Suprise, suprise, I saw an Iveco 4x4 pulling out of a nearby supermarket yesterday afternoon on local plates (11) all ready for an overland trip. Looked as if it had been converted to a unimog type box on it.

Couldn't see much more without causing an accident; it was dark green or blue - does it belong to someone on here who's in France?! I was extremely jealous!!!

Kira

iveco
 

Tyres i ran a/t's (colways bfg remoulds & cheaper) for 4 mths around maroc with only 1 flat & as on spit rims easy to change.I took 6 tyres & 5 rims as your unlikely to destroy 1 rim let alone 2(saves weight too).
I've tried air tanks (2 heavy) ended up using 2 fan assisted truck pumps i brought off internet(will post details when i find them)
Air intake iveco part only about £160,also ask service dept, if you can photocopy some pages from manual.
Speedo electric usually sensor fault at g/box.
Not tried any tuning or chipping YET!(any advise welcome).
Is yours 1 of the ex mountain rescue panel vans or ambulance?

Daily workshop
 

Hi Phil, which bit of Taffy land are you? I have a full set of workshop manuals you can copy. I agree with moodybloo, 5 rims are fine and splits are easy, (but practice!) Can't fault Michelin. The 2.5 isn't chiped so the only way to make more power is to open up the fuel pump and increase boost or intercool, only the latter will not affect reliability.
Regards
Bruce

Thanks
 

The thing I like about HUBB is it works !!
"thankyou" - to both 'MOODYBLOO' & 'CEDAR'. Clarified some of my questions.

My 35-10 was one of the RAF mountain rescue vehicles, body work little rusty and certainly the paint looks worse for wear BUT that's all just cosmetic, very sound where it counts ! take a look : http://www.travel.uklinux.net/piccies

MOODYBLOO : thanks for the speedo problem suggestion, is this something you've had problems with & solved ? looks a right awkward spot to get to and wondering if worth effort to 'attempt' a fix. Would appreciate input from anyone who has actually fixed before I go digging in !
Air Tanks - yep appreciate info when you have chance to find.

CEDAR : 'taffy land' ? right in the middle my friend, nearest town is Welshpool (mid wales) about 45mins from Telford. BUT - i'm not there ! on route to Turkey at moment (via Switzerland) ! I could really do with the user manual (cab copy) if possible, but unfortunately difficult to get to me ! can suggest either you could scan and send, or possibly if photocopied have address in UK where it could be sent to.
I realise this is an absolute 'pain in the' and don't worry if it's too much hassle, many thanks for offer and of course if you did get done i would obviously pay for any costs incurred - cheers.

BOTH - thanks for info on 'split rims' you have reassured me that perhaps they are not the terrors I was thinking ! You both suggest that easy to change, any tips ?

Thanks again guys, cheers.
P.

Hi

whenever changing a tyre with split rims, always, always make sure that you have a retaining strap around the rim - they are known for flying off under pessure, partiularly when airring up the tyre after a repair/replacement.
Saw a local in Africa loose a large chunk of his scalp and skull - and he was lucky to be alive - when inflating a tyre, because he airred it up to quickly, without a retaining strap - a ratchet strap or a retaining strap will do the trick.
I used both on an LC when changing tyres and was thankful at least once when rim popped off the main rim - do NOT cut corners when doing this, you may not live to regret it.

Be careful out there!!!

Chris

speedo
 

Speedo sender is on the (uk) n/s of gearbox look at your transfer box photo and you can see it.Quite a common fault on iveco's & easy to change.

Nice photos.

Saw all 7 ex raf vans at auction in 2005 at withams but i'd just brought a iveco 4x4 hi top.

Cant agree more BE VERY CAREFUL when re inflating spilt rims,If your not sure take 1 to a tyre fitter & get them to show you how.

It would be wise to take all your rims down to a tyre fitter because if the wheel hasn't been taken apart for a while the rim can rust solid to the main rim and getting them apart in the middle of nowhere can be a complete s*d. The other thing is that because these things are not that common these days you will need to find an 'old hand' to show what to do or, more importantly, what not to do.

Q

Split rim wheels, tyres
 

My Iveco WM has military split rims which I have changed tyres on without problems, although a strap round is a good precaution I agree. Just make sure the ring is well bedded in as you inflate, I check as I inflate, tapping with a hammer all round as I go to make sure it's staying in the groove. You can change a tyre with the wheel still on the truck but it's safer flat on the ground. Mine are tube types but some split rim wheels can be tubeless with a separate rubber seal like a big 'O' ring. My mate's Dodge RB44 camper has these but he's had problems with tyres going down and new seals were expensive. The military Iveco wheels are wider than standard (only 1/2") but also very thick metal and weigh a lot! 65kg for spare wheel + tyre.

I've been using Mich XZL's for a few years now, the later pattern which are metric size. It came on 9.00x16 XS tyres as standard but the new size is 255/100x16. Slightly smaller. I think the smaller sizes of XZL only come in the 'old' pattern with chunkier edges. The new pattern are great, good on the road and on piste and will drop right down for sand. Wear rate is reasonable and the ride is very good. Quiet, too, and reasonable grip even on wet tarmac as long as you don't be silly.

Phil - I have a copy of the Daily 40.10 4x4 owner's manual, I was given one with my WM. It's quite a bit different from my truck's controls etc, but it kept me going until I managed to find the military user manual. I already have the service data/speeds/lubricants etc pages scanned. Let me know if you need them.

Nigel

manuals
 

Forgot to mention might be worth emailing witham sv to see if they still have the manuals that came with the vans.

Already scanned
 

For those of you who already have the paper version of the 40-10 W (civilian) official workshop and electrical manuals, I can save you the bother of scanning it all as I've already done it. All in PDF form with an active index (just click on the section)

A little something towards the postage (from France) and the CD and it's yours.

Again, for copywright reasons you must already have the manuals in question.

PM me if interested
Luke

Hi Luke I would like a copy please but cant pm you until I have 15 posts....one more after this!!

thanks Graeme

Linking tanks
 

Has anyone got experience of linking fuel tanks?

Thanks graeme

Linking tanks
 

Hi Graeme
I have no experience but would not recommend it. You have far more connections to leak, if you get dirty fuel it contaminates both tanks, if you get a leak you loose the lot. I have another tank with a tap which is high enough to get a Jerry underneath, drop it into that and pour it into the main tank. It's simple reliable and can be done in a tea break.
Bruce

cedar, not sure if I'm misreading your suggestion but what's to stop you linking the two tanks but have a control valve on the link so you can keep the two loads of fuel isolated until the main tank is empty then open the valve to let the additional fuel through. You quote seems to be suggesting this but via manually dropping it into jerry cans and loading it into the main tank. The cost of a piece of pipe and a valve plus fitting it is fairly minimal and should lead to a lot more user friendly experiance.

eBay action
 

Dear all,

Item 200043494906

If it goes for anything like the present price, it's a steal!!!

I'd buy it myself if I didn't already have 3!

Sam.

Thanks all for tips regarding split rims - especially the ratchet idea (thanks Chris).

Fuel tank linking - I found a 120litre plastic tank. Fitted it in existing rear compartment (mines the ex RAF version) where they held compressor. Linked two via bit of pipe work, included isolator valve, shoved small pump in top tank (sometimes needed to start the flow then gravity takes over). Works a treat. Now able to buy 180 litres of fuel when price is good !!!

Hey Sam - that iveco is over the £10k mark now, I reckon it will go for £15k. !!

Luke : yes please would appreciate copies - I'm in Switzerland at moment, where in France are you ? maybe meet up. I don't need paper copies, in fact easier to have as PDF files. Can you post on a site for me to download, or send via e-mail ? I'll pm my email address to you.

Nigel - good tip re, rusted rims, just found set of Cooper AT tyres so will be changing all next week.

Phil.

Handbook
 

Phil - and anyone else interested - as well as a civilian operator's handbook for the 40.10 Daily I also have a file of a pamphlet on offroad driving tips for the 4x4 TurboDaily. It is in German, and has some nice line drawings of offroad Ivecos including a camper. It's 3.15Mb .pdf file, 32 pages.

Nigel

yes please!
 

Nigel,

If you're happy to email me the guide, that would be great!

sam
a-in-a-circle
prepare2go
dot
com

eBay Iveco went for GBP12100, which if the mechanicals were good is a great price...

Sam.

Offroad driving tips
 

Sorry Sam - I'm not allowed to send you an email until I have enough posts as I've only just joined.:(

As soon as I've found some other things to say (not usually difficult for me!) and I can send it I will.

Nigel

hm?
 

I included my email, so you can email direct rather then sending as a PM?!

But I'm in no enormous rush, so no worries!

Sam.

sam
a-in-a-circle
prepare2go
dot
com

Oh, dear.....
 

Sorry, Sam.

Of course you did. Sometimes we can't see what's under our noses....!

It's sent.

Nigel

Hi Nigel

Yes Please !

I have sent you an email.

thanks
Phil.

manual
 

Nigel can you send copies to my email too.

Thanks

spam
 

dont want to teach anyone to suck eggs but I have been told that it is not a good idea to post your email address up on a forum as there are robots that trawl for them and then you will get loads of spam.

Graeme

no message
 

Sorry, Phil, received no email yet. Can you try again?

Nigel

soory i know this is a repeat but . . . . .
 

Posted earlier in this thread questions regarding split rims so thought following could be useful to any who may be subscribed to this one.
Sorry, I know this is a repeat of a posting in the original thread, but thought it good info and don't know of any way to connect the threads (so to speak !)
Anyhow, my day of brake fluid and tyre change has come to an end !

Nigel - thanks for info regarding weight, very interesting (not boring atall !), it clarified a slight question I had; I.E my under bonnet tag stated 40.10 but my exterior bodywork logo states 35.10. Now from what you say the 35.10 means 3500kgs MGW, whereas 40.10 gains me another 550kgs.
I'm figuring that this military spec 4x4 is plated at 4050kgs MGW but the original 'std' bodywork is for the bog std turbo daily van rated at 3500kgs.
That's my logic and i reckon it makes sense for me.

Of course the slight issue is that if I top up both my diesel tanks (180litres) and my water tank (100litres) and put the girlfriend on board (won't say !!!) my MGW goes to 4200kgs, ok, yes technically i'm over the 4050 limit, so i'll just run little light on liquids (and maybe leave Angie at home !!).
The ironic problem here though is, you most likely need that stock of liquid when you head of into those shall we say 'out of the way' places, exactly the sort of places where breakdowns ('break'!!) will occur and exactly the last place you need to be stuck.
AHHHH - the dilemas of adventure travel, - 'seat of pants, what pants ? ! !'

so back to todays repairs:

brake fluid was absolutely useless, filthy, knackd, no good, surprising I could ever stop really. All brake fluid now replaced and brakes are working fine (how good ? I'll let you know after my next downhill with my 4200kgs)

tyres - 5 good, but not new n spanking, cooper 235/85 AT. should get me through the snow.

split rims : well it took approx 1 hr per rim for the garage (who have the kit and slightly more knowledge than me), but biggest problem appeared to be initial breaking seal of rim and just getting that first bit flipped up, problem caused by excess corroding (and probably not helped by my painting). Now these rims have all been removed, cleaned and greased a bit the shouldn't (i hope) be such an issue if i need to run a repair in the field.

that table data and balancing of pressure stuff i was worried about?
thanks to the manual supplied by Luke & Graeme (cheers boys) i found info i was after. but with the explanations above regarding load adjuster and function of I realised that adjuster is almost certainly at max open (coz of my weight) and so pressure will be balanced. in other words decided not to spend axtra money checkin !

so, 7 hrs of work (swiss prices), 2 litres or so of brake fluid, 5 decent tyres, 1 new tube, 2 spare s/h tubes, little bit of shopping ('snatch' rope, 9m rated for 8000kgs and a simple but neat 2.4m x 2.5m awning) came to £305.
I hate spending money, but I think I did ok today.

Thanks all for help, suggestions, knowledge, & info.

Liechtenstein tomorrow, via the hilly bits.

Phil.

good price to the right person?
 

eBay 270074888346

Sam.

ebay item
 

Hi sam

took a peek at the ebay one.

Nice idea of being a tipper ! easy to clean out the debris after long haul across the desert !!!!!!!

& of course excellent way for the other half to make sure I am up for breakfast !

BTW - Happy New Year all the best for '07

phil.

snorkels
 

Sam,
I'm interessed where to get them. I need one for my 35-10
Rob

manual 35-10 or 40-10
 

Luke,
I might be interested. 'What's actual the difference between 35-10 and 40-10? At the side of my Iveco is written 35-10, in my papers however 40-10!
Rob

Your Iveco dealer
 

Hi Rob and welcome.
Although most visits to the Iveco dealer cost an arm and a leg, the snorkel appears on their parts cd and doesn't end up being that expensive.

IMHO unless you drive in convoy a lot (like Sam's trucks) it's not an essential accessory. The intake is already at shoulder height.
In 30000km around West Africa I checked my air filter at every oil change (I did 4). I've still got the same filter, there was virtually nothing to tap out. The sheer size of the HGV filter means it'll fill up slower than a car's filter.

The difference between the 35-10and the 40-10?
You can't drive the 40-10 on the newest EU licences.
It's not legal to load the 35-10 up to 4 tonnes (I just hope I never get pulled onto a weighbridge)

There's no mechanical difference, it's just a paperwork operation to fit into certain insurance and licencing classes.

happy trails
Luke

snorkel and 35-10
 

Luke,
Thanks for your quite response. Just got the message from the dealer (Nijmegen, The Netherlands) that he can't find a snorkel for the 35-10 of the age I have (1989). Actually I'm happy with your experience. There does not seem a need to install one.
I do have a copy of a manual (in dutch). Do you know if they are all the same (fe. english)?
Cheers,
Rob

manual
 

Luke,
I would like to have to CD. How to pay you? Sending some money in an enveloppe is OK? Your address?
Rob

check your PMs
 

sent you one
Luke

manual
 

Luke,
Sorry to jump in another conversation. You sent me a message about the manual and suggested if my 35-10 might be too old. Mine has the round head lights. How can I see your in avatar? can you send it by zip file? I can't send you a private message. Can we communicate through witteadelaar@hotmail.com?
Rob

frustrated which way to go
 

Hi folks
just before I start once I have info to provide I will contribute as well as ask at this time Im stuck Ihave 40.10w 1993. Intending to carve of back , replace with grp box. hopwever chasis still very short. Does anybody know if I can purchase normal classic iveco and change running gear and engine to gain longer distance between wheels. I have seen some ivecos that look like they are longer bewteen whell centers or is it my imagination:confused1:
cheers Mark

wheelbase
 

there are two different wheelbases but I think I am correct in saying the van only comes in short. I am lucky that I have a long wheelbase chassis cab version. Luke is very knowledgable so if you hunt down his posts I think there is info there.
I think you would be taking on too much work to convert a long wheelbase van.

Graeme

the long and short of it
 

Hi Mark
They are either 2800 or 3200. If you extend a short to give you a lot more usable space, the overhang will give poor departure angle, depends where you are going. Also too much weight behind the rear axle will make it uncomfortable, but with a bit of planning it could work. I have just made a box on the back to carry all tools, wheels etc and inside is bed, sink, fridge, cooker, thats all you need.
Bruce

It would be a lot of work
 

Hello Mark,
Welcome.
The Daily 4x4 comes in 2 wheelbases: 2.8m and 3.2m (the short one corresponds to 110 inch)
The 4x2 vans come in a multitude of lengths, some of which would have been nice to see on the 4x4.
As Graeme says, the 4x4 van only came in SWB, the LWB came in different forms of chassis cab or bare chassis (both of the latter are even rarer than the van) and yes, the van is small to live in

If you're gifted in the workshop department the only thing stopping you doing such a transfer might be the regulations (and I don't know anything about those)

The bodies are the same, but the 4x4 has a body lift kit to fit the taller tyres in, you'd have to transfer that or your tyres won't fit (have a look under the wheelarch to comare the two). I believe the wiring looms are different too, and that's where it would get complicated for me.

Have you thought about adding an axle and extending the chassis?
There are a few companies who do 6WD LR conversions, they'll know about the admin side of such a mod.
As the Daily has similar power and weight to the LR, the 6x6 transfer case would handle the job ok, and you'd have a free hand in the suspension choice for the third axle (if you can find one :).

I've often thought it could be a good way of expanding the capacity of a Daily, but when you see the prices of some of the 4x4 HGV on mobile.de, maybe the conversion isn't that financially viable (you still have to build the box too).

Enjoy the planning and dreaming
Luke

p.s. Rob, your Daily isn't covered in the workshop manual that I have, sorry.

You missed one Bruce!
 

The TOILET!

In the middle of a city it's reassuring to know when the seat was last cleaned (even if it was months ago at least you know who has used it since)

In the middle of nowhere it's relaxing to be able to sit down.

In between the two it's a pleasure not to have to go behind the bushes and tread in what's left by all the others who've been there recently.

Sticky subject ;)

Luke

Thanks all

its gave a lot to think about, do any of you iveco owners ever meet up in uk
it would be great to see what people have already done as I dont believe in reinventing the wheel. Aaprt from that every one I speak to apart from my dad thinks Im mad,
Mark

Hi folks

just contacted BT about purchasing a used grp boxs they use on transit, I believe the height gap of cab may be different, but hey lets see where its goes. Does any body know if there are are any regs regarding shape of bodies especially in regard to rear end. See some mogs and ivecos have steped rears. Might get luton body shorten and turn around

thanks Mark

Bog standard
 

Hi Luke
You are right, as my wife endlessly points out! I have a bucket with a sealed top which works fine, and I prefer it to the chemical option, but I am looking to buy a LWB and fit a fridge box with loo and shower just to get some peace.
Bruce

chassis change
 

:confused1: :cool4: Hi all
just been in touch with iveco technical they seem to think the running gear from10.40w wont transfer on to road going 2 wheel drive chassis. however folly engineering will cut your frame in two and extend to any length you require aprox price 3000-4000 grand. My van is 1993 and me 1300 quid does any body know at what price kitted out this year vehicle would be worth trying to work out when it becomes financialy unviable.

Also asked about 3rd axle approx price 10000 grand not going to happen



mark

I say spend your money on travelling. you will spend too much doing a conversion. either go as is or buy a bigger vehicle if you need one. £4000 will get you half way round the world!!

Graeme

iveco dailly 4 by 4 cant find supplier for a towbar can anybody help
 

iveco dailly 2.8. shortwheelbase towbar required can anybody help I am in Scotland

Where can I buy one?
 

I'm curious to know where you can find these trucks.

Sam, How the hell did you end up with 3?

It seems that most come from the italian or swiss army. Is that right, are there any other places where they can be found?

Which governments bought these in big numbers?

Thanks for your help.

just looked in the warehouse
 

All our trucks are back at the moment (July and August are our dead time)!

We have 2.8, 3.2 AND 3.7m wheelbases! 2.8 is standard van (but with 7 seats, the other two are 7 seat crewcab with big boxes behind them.

One is from Belgium (Iveco Belgium were very excited when I brought it in for some spares - they didn't know there were any in the country), one from France and one from Italy. All were/are fully civil versions.

They appear occasionally on eBay...

'later, Sam.

If you want to go for the military version of the 4x4 Iveco (40.10WM) they are occasionally available surplus from the Dutch Army and the Belgian Gendarmerie. Italy, Pakistan and Canada's Armies use them too, and the Chinese do a copy of the WM for their military, but the Dutch and Belgian ones are easiest to find.

The WM differs from the 35.10W and 40.10W civilian 4x4's inthe following ways:
Cab is in glassfibre with 2-piece screen, looks similar to the old 'square' Dailys with round headlamps.
No front freewheel hubs but lever to select front diff lock, not push-button.
900x16 (255/100x16 metric) tyres instead of 750x16 (235/85x16) with lower diff ratios. Much bigger clearance under square arches.
3-piece very thick split rim wheels in 6.5" width instead of 6"
24 volt electrics.
Two-stage paper/oil bath air filter and twin fuel filters.

Quite a lot of minor details too. All are LHD except for eight British prototype ambulances from the early nineties. Basically they are rather spartan - typical military - but a bit tougher if you want it. No frills (pull cable engine stop) but easier to work on (one-piece lift up front).

A RHD WM camper conversion failed to sell on eBay ealier this week, see
eBay.co.uk: expedition overlander not unimog 4x4 motorhome (item 170127128283 end time 11-Jul-07 18:00:00 BST)

Happy hunting!

Nigel

iveco 4x4
 

Iveco 4x4 on ebay now relisted with a buy it now price £21995??
What do you think of that?:nono: :thumbup1:

looking for a box for my Iveco
 

Hello all,

I am looking for a box for my Iveco having given up on the caravan idea, I am looking on e bay but if any one has any ideas for me or knows of one or commercial breakers in the south please let me know, my chassis is 12'6" long plus I want to go over the cab. I have thought about building my own, has anyone done this or now of any links for advice . I think I want to go for grp ply for strength but am a little worried about the weight.

all advice welcome!

Graeme

Hi, I ended up going for a styrofoam sandwich shell - much lighter than metal framed ply and very rigid, as well as having superb insulation properties:
Picasa Web Albums - cj - wales

cheers
cj

IVECO 4x4 - New rims
 

Hello I am new in this forum I live in Portugal and I just broth a IVECO Daily 4x4 the civil cab version, it has split rims and mounts 7.50R16 tyres. I want to change to normal rims and mount 9.00R16 tyres. Any body knows if there are normal rims that can fit the Daily? Do i have to modify any thing to fit the 9.00R16 tyres.
One other thing, anybody has scanned a copy of the user manual that can send me?

Thank you,

rear box for iveco
 

Hi, We travelled with a German couple who built their own back onto their Iveco. You can view the build pictures on his site aroundtravell - Home
He is currently back in Germany and building a body for a G wagon for a Norwegian guy. Feel free to email him- his English is good!
Good luck with your plans.
Dave
PS He has 900 r 16's on his Iveco.

Nice truck and nice pic's. If I'm not misstaken just down the road from the Pen y Gwryd Hotel?:thumbup1:
Lived and worked in that part of the world not so long ago.

:clap::clap::clap:
Very nice job!!! I will ask him but his IVECO is a different model, maybe is that the military model? If so it has 9.00R16 tyres as standard.
Thank you Dave.

You can see my IVECO here:
Picasa Web Albums - vantunes - IvecoDaily

Hi y'all,

Just finishing a Zanzibar-Namibia trip with two of our Iveco 4x4 Dailys - they have done really well (particularly considering how grossly overloaded they both are!). One is full of film kit, the other is full of hot air balloon and gear!

Anyway, just wanted to post that they are great vehicles!

If you want to sell your 7.50 R16 rims, then I'm interested - although how we get them 'cheaply' from Portugal to Belgium remains difficult! Let me know!

Our user manuals are either in Dutch or French - so perhaps not so useful to you?

Safe travels all, Sam.

I think that will be very expensive to send the rims to Belgium as they are very heavy. Any way till now have not being able to find other rims that can fit the iveco :(, if i found them i will inform you.
The french manual will be nice, do you have a pdf version?

Thank you,

Hi where in portugal are you as im in maroc at moment but will be portugal in march with my iveco that has 900x16 on. maybe possible to meet up:Beach:

Hi Kevin,

did you get to meet up?!

I'm interested in the standard rims (although the ones I bought from you are great!).

I don't have the user manuals in 'soft' - only in paper format I'm afraid.

Just to say, also, that I have found brand new snorkels in Tripoli for Eur80 if anyone wants one!

Safe travels, Sam.

Hi are the snorkels iveco specific can i get one delivered to uk

thanks mark

Iveco snorkels
 

Hi, yes, they are for the Ivecos.

They are sold by IVECO Libya.

I don't know about sending them - they're big (when they're not attached to a truck!).

I am back in Libya in October, and can get one to London relatively easily if you like.

You will need some little bits and pieces (nothing bigger than a bolt or credit card piece of flat metal) for mounting (or you can order these little bits from Iveco in the UK).

Safe travels, Sam.

Hi Sam
only problem is i leave for Asia start of June do you think they will still be that cheap regarding the drop in the pound, price here is apprently 200 quid now.

thanks for the offer wonder is there any other way of getiing it here on the cheap by june or wonder if it would be chaeper in Poland or turkey

thanks mark

hi Mark hi all,
I bought my snorkel Iveco directly from iveco in Torino Italy. Don't see why you shouldn't get one if providing correct item #. If you like I can try find out which was mine and post it. The only thing is that I am not particularly happy with it. The way it is mounted allows the air contained in between the body layers (external and internal) of the body panel to flow through. Will never get to the water that high but plenty of dust raised by the front wheel gets sucked up. Will have to fix by sealing in a connecting lenght of plastic tube (I was thinking with foam...)

Has any of you guys tried to increase the power at low RPM, that is the real pain of this engine, even more so with 255/100 tyres? I was thinking of adding an intercooler, but cannot find any info on how to do and/or commercially available kits. All suggestions welcome.

Many thanks to all repliers

Ciao

Adriano

Hi
try this link to les ivecos have directions on how to fit an intercooler thanks for the offer of the snorkel but if it leaks sounds like i am better adapting a landrover one. Think of fitting intercooler myself

thanks mark

Translated version of http://bernard.debucquoi.com/iveco.php

Gosh!
 

Here's the exact thread with the instructions: BMH Story's forum • Voir le sujet - INTERCOOLER pour moteur 8140 23
you'll have to work out the french bit yourself.
Looks like the intercooler is the easiest bit, he really struggled with the injection pump.

I recently bought a 2003 Ford Ranger; its 2.5l electronic injection intercooled TD produces 109 hp for around 10l/100km unladen, this makes me realise that the Iveco 2.5 with 100hp for 13.5l/100km VERY heavily laden is a well specced engine already.
The french chap says that on the tar the modification helps save fuel, which makes a little sense; the more power available the less you force the foot to the floor, so you could end up using less.
But in the soft stuff he noticed 15% increase in consumption.

The daily's not for people in a hurry anyway, if you want a dune raider get a 4.2l lc80 and tune it. Even with 200hp the daily's handling and height make it an intrinsically slow vehicle.
I followed an unladen series across some very difficult terrain in mine without any problems once, you've just got to play with the tyre pressures, have really good tyres and keep the revs high.

Funny thing about revving; on the motorway you don't hesitate spending hours on end at 3000rpm, but in the soft stuff it sounds scary because there's much less other background noise. The daily's geared for it, the cooling system can cope with it, so go ahead and get that italian screaming! (I'm married to an italian I know about screaming italians ;-))

Hi Luke,

I do have another snorkel in the warehouse at the moment (has not yet been fitted to our last truck). I can give it to you if you want. I am coming over to London in about 2 weeks, so could drop it off somewhere I suppose. We're going back to Tripoli in October so I can get another one then.

They are a pain to get watertight (read ni-impossible) using the standard system. Running an inner tube (the corrugated, flexible type) up into the snorkel would probably do it though.

I would strongly suggest, however, that you avoid water deeper than the standard intake level anyway. They are great machines, but they were never designed to be Land Rover/Unimog etc. direct competitors. Don't forget that they are already surprisingly high.

If you really want to go swimming, then you have a lot of work (all the breathers, the electrics etc.).

Let me know if you want our snorkel, otherwise it'll go on our truck as planned!

Sam.

Luke + Mark,
many thanks for the very precious info.
Mark, the reason for getting the original Iveco snorkle was that it is so neatly designed that no one would notice if you don't get the upgrading of your vehicle documents after installing it, while a normal "pipe-shaped" snorkel is obviously a retrofit, if I can call it so. Sealing is just a matter of 30' additional work, but if you intend going into 120 cm deep water then there will be other problems in addition to the snorkel.....

Luke,
Fuel consumption on motorway at 90 Kmh is nearly 8 Km/l on mine (2800 engine) so this is very far from what you mention, but, as you say, height and big tyres play against low fuel consumption. And I try to stay in the range of 2500-2700 RPM when I can.
If I have more power and can get through the same stuff at 1000 RPM lower I think the engine will be so grateful........ :)
I have already done what you mention last summer for approx 4000 km across most of the libyan deserts. Screaming in low gear at >3K RPM, or stuck. Crawling up high dunes is not a matter of speed but torque at low revv. Good tyres at low pressure require more power to get out from soft stuff, even if it is flat.
That's why I think an increase in power will do. There have been cases where I needed 1st gear low ratio to get out, which in turn means very slow speed once you are out. If you want to float you need to stop, put high ratio on and move again, but 1st gear high ratio wouldn't cope, so......?

I will go and read the stuff now.
Many thanks again

Ciao
Adriano

Sorry, just read that it's Mark looking for a snorkel. It might be as early as next week - so let me know over the weekend if you are interested or not!

Cheers, Sam.

Hi Sam
thanks for the offer but Im going to fit a mantec/lr system as the iveco ones seem a little leaky. Thanks again its offers like yours that make this forum such a great place to be

all the best Mark

All saints!
 

Hi Sam, the offer got to the right person eventually.
Whoever had the leaks in the snorkelm must be missisng the rubber bit that seals the existing intake to the outer sqkin of the wing. I've looked at the parts CD and that bit is reused; I don't see why there should be any leakiness, but your experience shows otherwise.
Deep wading's well out for me, I'd swamp the generator :cool4:
Sam, Id' love to take that snorkel off your hands but it would be poor form as I'm currently trying to sell my Daily (shameless plug - see the for sale section) so I'll leave it up to the buyer to see if he feels he needs one. IMHO it's at its most useful when convoy driving on dusty roads.
cheers
Luke

Hi luke nay chance of getting a copy of the parts cd you mentioned.

thanks mark

Hi Luke,
I would also be keen to get a copy of the parts CD. I have not heard of one outside the dealers before. I would be happy to cover you costs.
Cheers, Andy

I am sorry but only now read this. Thank you for your help! Any
way, already installed the tires 9.00x16 and did not need to change much
thing.
Now I am building the box. :D