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marky116 22 Apr 2009 22:04

Hi
try this link to les ivecos have directions on how to fit an intercooler thanks for the offer of the snorkel but if it leaks sounds like i am better adapting a landrover one. Think of fitting intercooler myself

thanks mark

Translated version of http://bernard.debucquoi.com/iveco.php

Luke 23 Apr 2009 07:38

Gosh!
 
Here's the exact thread with the instructions: BMH Story's forum • Voir le sujet - INTERCOOLER pour moteur 8140 23
you'll have to work out the french bit yourself.
Looks like the intercooler is the easiest bit, he really struggled with the injection pump.

I recently bought a 2003 Ford Ranger; its 2.5l electronic injection intercooled TD produces 109 hp for around 10l/100km unladen, this makes me realise that the Iveco 2.5 with 100hp for 13.5l/100km VERY heavily laden is a well specced engine already.
The french chap says that on the tar the modification helps save fuel, which makes a little sense; the more power available the less you force the foot to the floor, so you could end up using less.
But in the soft stuff he noticed 15% increase in consumption.

The daily's not for people in a hurry anyway, if you want a dune raider get a 4.2l lc80 and tune it. Even with 200hp the daily's handling and height make it an intrinsically slow vehicle.
I followed an unladen series across some very difficult terrain in mine without any problems once, you've just got to play with the tyre pressures, have really good tyres and keep the revs high.

Funny thing about revving; on the motorway you don't hesitate spending hours on end at 3000rpm, but in the soft stuff it sounds scary because there's much less other background noise. The daily's geared for it, the cooling system can cope with it, so go ahead and get that italian screaming! (I'm married to an italian I know about screaming italians ;-))

Sam Rutherford 23 Apr 2009 12:09

Hi Luke,

I do have another snorkel in the warehouse at the moment (has not yet been fitted to our last truck). I can give it to you if you want. I am coming over to London in about 2 weeks, so could drop it off somewhere I suppose. We're going back to Tripoli in October so I can get another one then.

They are a pain to get watertight (read ni-impossible) using the standard system. Running an inner tube (the corrugated, flexible type) up into the snorkel would probably do it though.

I would strongly suggest, however, that you avoid water deeper than the standard intake level anyway. They are great machines, but they were never designed to be Land Rover/Unimog etc. direct competitors. Don't forget that they are already surprisingly high.

If you really want to go swimming, then you have a lot of work (all the breathers, the electrics etc.).

Let me know if you want our snorkel, otherwise it'll go on our truck as planned!

Sam.

adri 23 Apr 2009 18:08

Luke + Mark,
many thanks for the very precious info.
Mark, the reason for getting the original Iveco snorkle was that it is so neatly designed that no one would notice if you don't get the upgrading of your vehicle documents after installing it, while a normal "pipe-shaped" snorkel is obviously a retrofit, if I can call it so. Sealing is just a matter of 30' additional work, but if you intend going into 120 cm deep water then there will be other problems in addition to the snorkel.....

Luke,
Fuel consumption on motorway at 90 Kmh is nearly 8 Km/l on mine (2800 engine) so this is very far from what you mention, but, as you say, height and big tyres play against low fuel consumption. And I try to stay in the range of 2500-2700 RPM when I can.
If I have more power and can get through the same stuff at 1000 RPM lower I think the engine will be so grateful........ :)
I have already done what you mention last summer for approx 4000 km across most of the libyan deserts. Screaming in low gear at >3K RPM, or stuck. Crawling up high dunes is not a matter of speed but torque at low revv. Good tyres at low pressure require more power to get out from soft stuff, even if it is flat.
That's why I think an increase in power will do. There have been cases where I needed 1st gear low ratio to get out, which in turn means very slow speed once you are out. If you want to float you need to stop, put high ratio on and move again, but 1st gear high ratio wouldn't cope, so......?

I will go and read the stuff now.
Many thanks again

Ciao
Adriano

Sam Rutherford 24 Apr 2009 09:25

Sorry, just read that it's Mark looking for a snorkel. It might be as early as next week - so let me know over the weekend if you are interested or not!

Cheers, Sam.

marky116 26 Apr 2009 22:26

Hi Sam
thanks for the offer but Im going to fit a mantec/lr system as the iveco ones seem a little leaky. Thanks again its offers like yours that make this forum such a great place to be

all the best Mark

Luke 27 Apr 2009 12:41

All saints!
 
Hi Sam, the offer got to the right person eventually.
Whoever had the leaks in the snorkelm must be missisng the rubber bit that seals the existing intake to the outer sqkin of the wing. I've looked at the parts CD and that bit is reused; I don't see why there should be any leakiness, but your experience shows otherwise.
Deep wading's well out for me, I'd swamp the generator :cool4:
Sam, Id' love to take that snorkel off your hands but it would be poor form as I'm currently trying to sell my Daily (shameless plug - see the for sale section) so I'll leave it up to the buyer to see if he feels he needs one. IMHO it's at its most useful when convoy driving on dusty roads.
cheers
Luke

marky116 27 Apr 2009 18:21

Hi luke nay chance of getting a copy of the parts cd you mentioned.

thanks mark

Boanerges 27 Apr 2009 22:15

Hi Luke,
I would also be keen to get a copy of the parts CD. I have not heard of one outside the dealers before. I would be happy to cover you costs.
Cheers, Andy

IVECO_PT 11 Sep 2009 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodybloo (Post 228602)
Hi where in portugal are you as im in maroc at moment but will be portugal in march with my iveco that has 900x16 on. maybe possible to meet up:Beach:


I am sorry but only now read this. Thank you for your help! Any
way, already installed the tires 9.00x16 and did not need to change much
thing.
Now I am building the box. :D

rclafton 11 Sep 2009 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by IVECO_PT (Post 256527)
I am sorry but only now read this. Thank you for your help! Any
way, already installed the tires 9.00x16 and did not need to change much
thing.
Now I am building the box. :D

Why do you put 900x16 on ?

0.75 inch ground clearance extra ? up the gearing ?

i'm glad to get away from that tyre size onto a size that can be sourced anywhere and at a reasonable price

what tyres are you using ?

rich

IVECO_PT 14 Sep 2009 15:08

Old tires was 235/85 R16 more or less the same diameter as a
7.5R16. With 900R16 think the ground clearance rose 1.5 inch. On the other hand, my IVECO is light less than 3.5 ton and gearbox is very short with
900R16 improved a little. 900R16 tires are cheap at € 150 each in Portugal, for long distances I have to carry spares.
a photo of the tyres:
Picasa Web Albums - vantunes
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_X6Y_zG2UsfY/Sg...0/DSCF0915.JPG

Quote:

Originally Posted by rclafton (Post 256608)
Why do you put 900x16 on ?

0.75 inch ground clearance extra ? up the gearing ?

i'm glad to get away from that tyre size onto a size that can be sourced anywhere and at a reasonable price

what tyres are you using ?

rich


Sam Rutherford 28 Oct 2009 11:32

Iveco for sale on ebay...

Iveco 45.10WM.4x4 diesel 10 seat utility vehicle

Safe travels, Sam.

Phil Flanagan 3 Nov 2009 16:19

parts cross reference
 
Hi.

Some of you already are members but for those that are not then you may like to know that there is a group on yahoo exclusively for iveco 4x4, it has been ingeniously named : ivecodaily4x4

I have just created a 'Database' there for all to use as a posting point and reference point for cross referencing part numbers for spares.

Please Use !

Phil.

rclafton 18 Nov 2009 18:20

cheap iveco daily 4x4 for conversion

IVECO 4X4 on eBay (end time 23-Nov-09 12:55:34 GMT)

looks like a lwb version too


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