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graysworld 3 Jun 2007 21:58

am I doing something wrong?
 
So I tried today to split my wheel.....well it took two of us, one with experience!! my Iveco rims are just two piece and the ring was incredibly difficult to lever over the edge. am I doing something wrong I thought split rims were supposed to be a one man job.

Nigel yours you said were easy are they different on the WM version?

More advice please!!??

Graeme

nigel_all 3 Jun 2007 23:45

Two piece? Mine are three piece, that is, the wheel, the outer rim, and the split locking ring. Once the tyre is deflated, lay it flat, outer uppermost, a couple of well-aimed blows with a rawhide hammer should free off the outer rim, hold it down with a tyre lever down so you can get at the end of the locking ring which should have a notch in it into which you can put the end of a suitable lever (prybar is good) and firkle the end of the locking ring over the wheel. Mine also has a small chamfer to get you started. It's a knack but once started the ring should come off progressively easier as you go clockwise. Then lift off the outer rim and turn the wheel over, a few more blows with the hammer/tyre lever should dislodge the inner bead and the wheel falls out.

However I'm beginning to think my WM wheels may well be different as eveyone else seems to be struggling! My mate is a big Iveco fan with several Dailys, 2WD and 40.10's and I know he changed some tyres recently; I'll give him a ring tomorrow and let you know what he said. In the meantime I have one more wheel tomorrow to do so I'll take some pics if it helps - I still have your email address from last time we communicated. But we are off to Germany for the Bad Kissingen meet on Tuesday so apologies if I don't find the time to do the pics. Back the week after, though.

Cheers

Nigel

moggy 1968 4 Jun 2007 12:41

A few tips from my experiences of TLC splits
These were rusty old second hand rims and the on the first change even the garage struggled to seperate the rims! since then life has got easier. One thing I found was that you have to remove the valve core to ensure the tyre is absolutely empty, otherwise it tends to grip the rim. Now I have a bead breaker I bought on ebay which is great, before that I tried the highlift thing, but didn't like it, the force is very localised and I was sure it must be doing damage to the tyre wall. I tried driving over the tyre, which kind of worked, but driving up a piece of wood resting on the tyre was better, but bead breakers are definately the way to go.
with regard to your ring exploding (ooh matron!) I just rest the wheel against one of the wheels on the truck so that is the ring blows off it will harmlessly batter another wheel.
I only use commercial tubes and heavy duty tyre flaps which seem to help with punctures.
we ran two landcruisers thorough west Africa, one on tubed splitties, the other on tubeless steels and there was no real difference in the number of punctures.
Andy
TLC H60
eBay UK Shop - Captain Moggy's Surplus Store: military Trousers, Webbing and Rucksacks, Boots

graysworld 4 Jun 2007 23:04

They are different!
 
Hi Nigel, My rims are different than yours, they are only two piece! a later version so I am told, that is earlier split rims were 3 piece. What a drag if it makes them more difficult. I remember a friends magirus deutz being really easy, just like you say yours is.

Graeme

nigel_all 4 Jun 2007 23:33

Hi Graeme

Ah, there we go! I had a feeling I was different from everyone else (been like that since I was about three......)! It certainly makes life easier for me when it comes to tyre swaps! I've emailed you the pics of mine anyway although it's only of acadamic interest now.

I didn't manage to get hold of my friend today but I'll try again, he has the 'civilian' Daily 4x4 like yours so probably the same rims, and did swap some tyres a week or so ago. I'll see if he has any good tips.

Cheers

Nigel

graysworld 5 Jun 2007 22:59

two piece rims
 
Has anyone got experience with two piece split rims? it seems to be a lot harder than three piece

Graeme

marky116 6 Jul 2009 20:16

tyre help desperatly needed
 
Hi
Im confused just had a friend around whos been fitting tyres for 20 years for a national firm and infomed me the xzl s I have bought have the wrong angle to go on my iveco civie splt rims. also said that I lorry tyres are tougher? Want to be leaving the country next week for india. What should I do new wheels new tyres splits or solids.

Van weighs in at 4.12 tons edging towards the limit of 7.5 xzl any one got any comments.

thanks mark

rclafton 6 Jul 2009 23:25

Well i'm taking them (zxl) off the split rims on my truck so I guess luke wore them out on the split rims

What does he mean by 'wrong angle'

I've got both the 2 piece and 3 piece splits on my truck - havn't had an issue with them (well taking them to bits - havn't reassembled them yet) - they are easier than my unimog rims on the 101 landrover which were one piece but big tough tyres to remove

Load index is 116n (1250kg) so 5 tonne on 4 corners on xzl - the military are major users of these tyres so i'd guess they are pretty strong

I have xy's on my truck on the split rims and they are fine

Peter Girling 7 Jul 2009 16:32

Want to try doing the splits?
 
Hi all,

FWIW, I've got a set of 5 split rims & tyres for sale. Brand new, 5 stud genuine Toyota fitted with brand new 7.50-16 tyres.

Happy trails,

Jojo

Bundubasher 7 Jul 2009 17:37

...Pesa Ngapi?

marky116 8 Jul 2009 07:43

Hi All

Let me be a bit clearer, my mate and his colleagues are saying that the

1. the angle on the inner edge is will not be suitable for iveco split rims.

2 The height of the ring is to great and will project up the wall of the tyre to far.

Going to phone iveco and and michelin today for clarification. But it appears that the proof is in the driving and people appear to have got on with them ok.

thanks Mark

rclafton 8 Jul 2009 10:20

I've just been to look at spare tyres i have in the garage

The Avon Rangemasters I have are exactly the same angle and rim space as the xy sitting next to it so I don't see what they are looking at. Ive also checked the xy against the worn xzl and they are the same

I havn't got a landrover rim without a tyre on it at present so i can't compare them

Interesting link on rim types Rims, Tubes and Flaps :. Bridgestone South Africa

Can you post a picci of your wheels ?

Rich

uk_vette 8 Jul 2009 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel di pietro (Post 137185)
Driving tubeless from Netherlands to Cape Town along West coast with ZERO punctures.

Cheers,

Noel Di Pietro
exploreafrica.web-log.nl

.
Hi Noel,

BFG A/T by any chance ?

'vette

Peter Girling 8 Jul 2009 12:17

Jambo!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundubasher (Post 248997)
...Pesa Ngapi?

£300 the lot (tyres are new Dunlop SP Qualifiers)

Nakutaia siku njema

marky116 10 Jul 2009 20:58

Hi great little explanation on how to change tyres on a spilt rim

Split Rims

time to try it I think

Mark


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