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camnz 12 Apr 2008 22:57

cheap panniers!!!!
 
has anyone seen or tried theese panniers?found them after a google serch,their not tourtech or anything fancy but they look like they do the job.
Bykebitz Motorcycle Accessories Ltd ALPOS CASES AND FITTING KITS

:thumbup1:

scottdc 13 Apr 2008 01:05

I'm pretty sure those are the same panniers that I have but mine were from Daerr and have their logo on them, etc. I'm happy with mine but the one thing I highly suggest is to reinforce them on the side they mount to the racks. I dented mine where the rack contacted the box in a minor tip. Reinforcing them with 2mm alloy plate has fixed this, attached with a combo of pop-rivets and epoxy. They do dent easily but the dents come out with a couple whacks from a hammer.

Dodger 13 Apr 2008 02:45

Some people love them , some hate them .
I have a Zarges which looks identical , I have used it as a top box ,it has never been dropped and has always leaked .
Silicon would no doubt cure the problem .

You will need to have a strong reinforced mounting system [ as stated in an earlier post ] ,but other than that they should be fine provided you don't drop the bike too often .
My personal preference would be for something a little stronger .But for the price they look very good value .

Matt Cartney 13 Apr 2008 15:37

I have a set of these and while quite thin they are pretty good value. They have thick aluminium rims top and bottom which help the strength a lot. Mine have been thoroughly abused and involved in more than one crash but are still going strong. Mine have never let in water and I quickly gave up keeping my camera in a poly bag inside. They are easily as good as Zegas in my opinion and much cheaper. Something like Metal Mules are a fair bit more robust but that is reflected in the price.

MAtt :)

Matt Cartney 13 Apr 2008 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottdc (Post 184305)
I'm happy with mine but the one thing I highly suggest is to reinforce them on the side they mount to the racks. I dented mine where the rack contacted the box in a minor tip. Reinforcing them with 2mm alloy plate has fixed this, attached with a combo of pop-rivets and epoxy. They do dent easily but the dents come out with a couple whacks from a hammer.

I have reinforced one of mine in this way after a crash and it is now stronger than ever. I agree with this statement about their general robustness.

Matt :)

camnz 13 Apr 2008 16:21

they definitly caught my eye,priced with locks and brackets they come in under $250!!still need a frame to mount them on have found some on ebay for around £100 so it looks like a go for me.will beef them up before fitting them and maybe add a piece on the bottom to hold an extra jerry can??:thumbup1:

Matt Cartney 13 Apr 2008 16:45

You might find that doesn't give you much ground clearance, although I suppose it depends on how high you mount them.

Actually, that's a good point. I mounted mine relatively low, thinking it would improve stability in rough stuff, but actually wish I'd mounted them higher as I now have to watch my heels when I put my foot down, the pannier catches the heel if I don't lift my foot quickly enough, if you see what I mean!

Matt :)

camnz 13 Apr 2008 18:18

yeah i see what you mean about getting your feet caughton them,i thought of welding a piece of aluminium cheker plater along the bottom rear end of the pannier sticking out about 8 inch like a "shelf"for a jerry can to sit on??having never ad panniers before i didnt think about the pros and cons on how high to mount them.is having the top of the pannier level with the seat to high??

Dodger 13 Apr 2008 20:05

I like having the top of the panniers level with the seat , it makes a nice flat area to spread a large duffel or dry bag across - unless of course your bike has a very high seat .

You might want to check the thickness of those ally panniers before you get too enthusiastic about welding checkerplate to them for fuel cans .

camnz 13 Apr 2008 21:03

hmm i didnt think about that.maybe not such a good idea.was keen on jerry cans aux tanks are sooo expencive.:thumbup1:

Matt Cartney 14 Apr 2008 11:45

You could probably weld to the reinforced lower rim no problem, it's pretty thick, but I don't know anything about welding aluminium so I wouldn't say for sure.

Mounting the boxes level with the seat shouldn't be too high, and as said gives a flat platform to stick a duffle on. Having said that, you would have to remove the duffle every time you wanted into the boxes, which might be a pain.

One way to judge the height would be to take the empty box prior to fitting the mounting kit and duct tape it in the place you think is right, then try walking the bike over a short distance and see if your heels get caught. Then repeat until you get the postion just right.

I know what you mean about big tanks. Having said that, despite having reservations before I bought mine, it was undoubtedly the best/most useful adaptation (after luggage of course!) that I made to my bike.

Matt :)

UTS Rich 21 Apr 2008 10:04

has anyone been able to take a proper look at Motech's new luggage, Trax?

Bykebitz Motorcycle Accessories Ltd TraX Side Panniers

they look like they might be pretty good, but i can find hardly any info on them.

mr moto 21 Apr 2008 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by UTS Rich (Post 185774)
has anyone been able to take a proper look at Motech's new luggage, Trax?

Bykebitz Motorcycle Accessories Ltd TraX Side Panniers

they look like they might be pretty good, but i can find hardly any info on them.

i have been looking at these as well , but since they have only been for sale for all of two week,s i think it will be a while before we hear of anyone who has bought them .

Viking Compass 22 Apr 2008 18:10

These people only deal in Triumph. Squaredeals Motorcycle Accessories it looks like their Triumph customers score a great saving on Trax luggage prices! Check them out. :clap:

Viking Compass 1 Nov 2008 12:39

Trax Alu Boxes Trax Luggage Best Prices
 
WWW.HONDA-ONLINE.CO.UK just found Trax luggage, Trax panniers, Trax topboxes etc here, much cheaper than anywhere else.

Caminando 1 Nov 2008 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by camnz (Post 184424)
hmm i didnt think about that.maybe not such a good idea.was keen on jerry cans aux tanks are sooo expencive.:thumbup1:

Dodger is quite right -Alpos boxes are thin. But you can rivet on or bolt on a doubling plate in areas you wish to strengthen. I have done exactly as Matt has done. I think they are great for the money, and the Alpos boxes I have are fine. I made my own frame so I cant speak for the Alpos frame. Wont be as ugly as the one I made...must make a new, neater one...sometime.

Caminando 1 Nov 2008 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by camnz (Post 184402)
yeah i see what you mean about getting your feet caughton them,i thought of welding a piece of aluminium cheker plater along the bottom rear end of the pannier sticking out about 8 inch like a "shelf"for a jerry can to sit on??having never ad panniers before i didnt think about the pros and cons on how high to mount them.is having the top of the pannier level with the seat to high??

You cant weld there anyway -you'll melt the seal, and the heat may distort the alloy. Why chequered plate anyway?

Bronze 11 Nov 2008 20:38

I got mine from here:

Reisebedarf und Expeditionsausrüstung bei Därr Expeditionsservice in München

Around £100 for a pair delivered (to the UK)

Looks like they've gone up (but are thicker):

Zu bestellen bei Daerr.de: DÄRR- Motorrad- Box BIKE, Aluminium in 1,2 mm - Heavy Duty (Därr)

90 euro a piece isn't too bad though.

maxwell123455 25 Nov 2008 20:09

Hi guys

Ive looked at the boxs and thing im probably going to get a set (still havent decided on 36 or 42ltrs yet) but im making my own pannier frames and ive sorted out a way to attached the pannier to the frame including extra support but can any one tell me the thickness of the aluminimum used for the pannier??

and also any body got any piccies of how they got their panniers attached??

Bronze 26 Nov 2008 19:41

Not sure which make of panniers you mean. Mine are 0.8mm (which is thin). 1.2 - 2mm is typical.

I don't have any photos of mine but they're based on this touratech mount (all 4 are like the top mounts shown) with an extra aluminium sheet on the inside to add rigidity:

http://www.touratech-usa.com/instl/l...onto-frame.jpg

maxwell123455 30 Nov 2008 16:30

Cheers Bronze

Thats the type of picture i wanted, still not too sure on which way im going to attach my panniers

ive thought about possibly having just 4 bolts that come from the side of the pannier (with inner pannier strengthening) that go into 4 holes within the pannier rack then 4 nuts on the ends tighten them up and away you go. I will place some rubber between them to stop the vibes but i cant see how that would go wrong apart from the bolts and holes have to line up perfectly!!!! (Amature engineering):oops2:

Its that or have the lower lugs like bronzes picture then have 2 bolts up top that go through 2 holes in frame, bolts etc etc.


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