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mj 27 Aug 2010 10:56

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 303038)
I have to admit, these were mostly F650's (no need to ask my opinion of these) but there were a couple of 1200's too. Starter motor failed on one guy and the other guys shock (new bike) has collapsed. In 6 months, seeing hundreds of other bikers (on some really old high mileage hacks), I didnt see any other breakdowns !

That's very interesting indeed. I always thought the old F650 Rotax single was very reliable simply because it didn't have any bells and whistles.
And did I get that right: you didn't see any bikes other than BMWs break down? Not a single one?

*Touring Ted* 27 Aug 2010 11:08

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Originally Posted by mj (Post 303055)
That's very interesting indeed. I always thought the old F650 Rotax single was very reliable simply because it didn't have any bells and whistles.
And did I get that right: you didn't see any bikes other than BMWs break down? Not a single one?

I am really thinking very hard and I really can't think of any other mechanical/electrical breakdown... Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but I didnt see or hear of it. My XT had a issue with a clogged carb filter if that counts though ???

The F650 engine IS reliable and a good one. It's the reg/rect, waterpump, ABS, general bits falling off, plastics breaking etc etc Do a search, theres plenty to read about. Going a bit off topic here though aren't we !! ??

T.REX63 27 Aug 2010 11:48

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Originally Posted by mj (Post 303055)
That's very interesting indeed. I always thought the old F650 Rotax single was very reliable simply because it didn't have any bells and whistles.
And did I get that right: you didn't see any bikes other than BMWs break down? Not a single one?

Staying off topic, my '06 F650 was dead-bolt reliable. Did my first Alaska/Canada trip on it, completed my first "Iron Butt" ride on it. Just a great bike all the way around. Nothing has fallen off either :clap:.

And, I don't take my bikes to a dealership, because that's where I have made consistently bad experience :(.

*Touring Ted* 27 Aug 2010 11:53

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Originally Posted by T.REX63 (Post 303063)
Staying off topic, my '06 F650 was dead-bolt reliable. Did my first Alaska/Canada trip on it, completed my first "Iron Butt" ride on it. Just a great bike all the way around. Nothing has fallen off either :clap:.

And, I don't take my bikes to a dealership, because that's where I have made consistently bad experience :(.

Glad to hear it !! Of course, they don't/can't all go wrong ! Just a numbers & statistics game isn't it !!

Caminando 27 Aug 2010 20:02

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 303054)
My dear Caminando.. You are the master of exageration ! :blushing:

I don't hate any bike nor do I ejaculate over a particular brand just because it happens to be in my garage !

I see bikes as machines/tools/piece of engineering ! I don't get particularly excited about lawn mowers, electric smoothy makers or inkjet printers either !!

I didnt "slag off" the Africa Twin. I just pointed out its failings which are fact. The dude asked, I told him !! I'll tell you about my DRZ's failings too if you'd like ?? :cool4: If I didnt like them, I woudn't of bought three of them lol.

If you don't just concentrate on the nagatives, you will hear equal or more praises for most bikes than critisisms !

Just caus I say Suzukis rust, doesn't mean I dont like them, does it ??? They do rust, the finish IS poor. Again, its just fact my friend !

What do I approve if ?? Does it matter ??? People are free to take on to ignore information at their lesuire... :smartass:

Last time I checked this was an OVERLAND motorcycle forum, aimed for people who like to travel overland on their bikes, so for me I'd say any bike which is:

Simple for the average rider to maintain, affordable to buy and have readily available spare parts, reliable, economical, have a sturdy well built chassic to hold luggage, be built of long lasting components and be simple to convert into a good overland machinne.. Branding has NOTHING to do with it !!

If you're asking me which bike id recommend for a track day, trip to the pub on, or posing outside starbucks on, surely thats for a different forum altogether.... Like visordown etc ??

Moto tech: I did 4 years F/T in college, C&G 1 & 2 and IMI 1, 2 & 3.. Used to run my own wreck - restoration Ebay business too. Also worked in the largest multi francise dealership in North of England in sales and occasional tech (better money). I didn't do an apprentiships as I prefered to be taught properly and not be someones "bitch" for pocket change.

:scooter:

Thanks T/Ted,:cool4: glad you could clear that up. In fact though, you have passionately slagged ATs something rotten which is quite legit, but then you bought three. 'Nuff said?

You spoke of ejaculation, about which I will say no more! Each to his own....:blushing:You could post that on Visordown maybe?
Anyway, buen viaje, have fun:scooter:

*Touring Ted* 27 Aug 2010 20:05

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Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 303123)
Thanks T/Ted,:cool4: glad you could clear that up. In fact though, you have passionately slagged ATs something rotten which is quite legit, but then you bought three. 'Nuff said?

Sorry, can't agree with that at all !!! Over the years i've promoted them to what must be 1000x more than i've ever criticised them.

Caminando 27 Aug 2010 20:09

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 303124)
Sorry, can't agree with that at all !!! Over the years i've promoted them to what must be 1000x more than i've ever criticised them.

Sure T/Ted,:thumbup1: I only refer to your recent post when you got a little bit emotional in slagging ATs. But that's OK!

:mchappy:Buen viaje!

Caminando 27 Aug 2010 20:20

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 302981)
If you want to see rust !! Get a Suzuki ! Worst finished bikes to come out of Japan !!

Everyone I've had looked like the Titanic.

So you like Suzukis.......:stormy:

*Touring Ted* 27 Aug 2010 20:23

I'm just bipolar !!! Then again, so am I !!!

Caminando 27 Aug 2010 20:35

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 303127)
I'm just bipolar !!! Then again, so am I !!!

Hi TouraTed
Bipolar doesn't mean schizophrenic BTW. :rolleyes2:

Could mean "very inconsistent"?

Now wot abaat those Suzukis - do ya love 'em or hate 'em? And those BMWs? and those Hondas; and those KTMs? and, and...:thumbup1:
Please don't ejaculate over anyone's bike though; he might get nasty...

Anyway, bye for now!:mchappy:

mj 27 Aug 2010 23:21

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Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 303128)
Please don't ejaculate over anyone's bike though; he might get nasty...

Yeah, stay the hell away from my bike. There's rust all over it already and absolutely no need to make things even worse :taz: :rofl:

*Touring Ted* 28 Aug 2010 08:45

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Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 303128)
Hi TouraTed
Bipolar doesn't mean schizophrenic BTW. :rolleyes2:

You should know I guess :smartass:

Mental disorders aren't really my strong suit !


If you wan't to know my opinions on all brands of bikes, buy my book which is out at the end of the month !!

WhiteyUK 28 Aug 2010 09:25

I've had R100GS, R1100GS, R1200GS, R1200GSA. All great bikes, no major problems with any of them. 1200GSA was the best of them all

*Touring Ted* 28 Aug 2010 09:46

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Originally Posted by WhiteyUK (Post 303202)
I've had R100GS, R1100GS, R1200GS, R1200GSA. All great bikes, no major problems with any of them. 1200GSA was the best of them all

At least we'l know how to spot you at the meetings !!

http://vistabmw.com/mm5/graphics/000...mwCap_Mesh.jpg

:Beach:

Caminando 28 Aug 2010 14:45

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 303195)
You should know I guess :smartass:

Mental disorders aren't really my strong suit !


If you wan't to know my opinions on all brands of bikes, buy my book which is out at the end of the month !!

TouraTed! I truly don't want your opinion on bikes:laugh:, but very glad to hear you have a book coming out:thumbup1: Good man! That's not easy to do, so well done that man!

Tell us more, come on, you're not usually shy about such things! Hope you had a good proof reader for all those spelling and punctuation mistakes.....

But let's have some details on your book.....Send me a copy and I'll review it.....


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