Helmet Visor - Shade strip for low sun ?
 

Hi All - I've just got a great deal on a Caberg Justissimo Flip up type helmet, it's brilliant, it has an inner shaded visor a main clear visor and at low speed I can leave the chin guard up and this acts as a peak ( illegal but the police do it ! ) My only problem is that I'm used to an Arai tour X which has a peak, so I was wondering does anyone put a strip of tape or something across the top of their visor to cut out the low sun ? All suggestions gratefully recieved ( sensible ones anyway )
Cheers Mike

yes, try this
 

go to a sign maker ( any place that do vehicle graphics or window tinting too ) try the Yellow Pages or similar and ask for a strip of 'static cling' film in green or blue this will stick on to your visor and can be trimmed with a blade, but will pull off and can be reused many times.

or try Cherwell Sign Supplies phone no is 01280 840297 they should sort you out

I used to use a Justimo, and I stuck black tape along bottom inch of the inner 'shade', when the sun was low, I just lowered shade a little 'till the sun was blocked out. When the inner visor was pulled all the way down, the bottom blacked out inch wasn't in line of sight. If you have both the clear visir and shaded visor down when the sun is low in your eyes, you get twice the light scatter, and twice the muck,snot and other crud reducing your vision (x3 in my case as I wear glasses as well)
Went on to a TourX later.
The police use BMW helmets with the chin guard up 'cus they are certified (the helmets - not the police!) for use with the chin guard up or down.

Bill
I had the problem some years ago of regularly being stopped by police about the 'open' flip helmet. So I wrote to BMW for clarification.

As expected, they would not give an unequivical written reply about legality or complying with British Standards with it open. They dealt with my letter by phoning, saying in their opinion it would be safer and advisable to keep it closed.

How helpful these people become once they have your money!! Grrr

Bill,
That's a great idea Bill - I hadn't thought of putting tape on the inner visor! I'll give it a go - what's the bet that the sun stays in ...
Cheers Mike

What sort of tape and is it removable again without residue should it get tatty?

I've used a Shoei Syncrotec since 2004 and I always have it flipped up under 40mph-ish. I thought it was legal and I've never been stopped by the cops - maybe my luck's about to run out. But it's definitely more fun with the wind up your nostrils.

Motor racing drivers (car), a few years ago, used to put black tape across the top and bottom of their goggles leaving a narrow strip of clear directly in front of their eyes of an inch or so.

The idea was to exclude both the sun from above and glare from below (coming off the car bodywork and track surfaces) - as well as not seeing anything which might distract the concentration away from the job in hand.

I have considered doing this on the top of a full face helmet visor, but not done it.

Simon
I did say years ago. The very early BMW flip front helmets were not even BSI approved to a road use standard until about the mid 1980s.

I continue using flip fronts, as you, open in towns (so as to be more aware of sounds around) and must admit not having been stopped for maybe 18 years for it.


By the way, how do you get the Quote section in a box?, TIA someone.

You should have a "quote" button at the bottom left of each post..

I did an instructors course in the UK last year. The official line is that flip-up helmets are certified for use in the closed position. So riding with them up is, technically, riding with an uncertified helmet. That's how they view (the law) view it.

Whether certain manufacturers choose to run through the certification process twice (once for closed position, and once for piss-pot style) is up to them. Given a helmet is a commercial product, I suspect manufacturers would not go above and beyond the very minimal to be legal.

I've never seen a cop riding with the helmet open. You could always try a citizens arrest?

Agree with Simon, there's nothing like having the wind and grit on your face. But with the option of keeping the locusts off if required.

Simon. Thanks.

It was never there when writing a reply! You have to do it before.
Actually the Quote button should read "Reply with quote".

But it works! Watch me go now!
Thanks again.

ooh - I like this system!!

Dougie

I often do see them in London but prefer to keep quiet and not risk the time taken for a complete inspection of my bike.

I do intend, one day, taking a photo or two of them to keep and , if necessary, use 'in mitigation'!

i am using black electrical isolate tape on top of the outher visor and it helps a lot. easy to remove if needed but i have never removed it. see picture please..
it was my instructor advice while doing the cbt in the UK.

I recently changed from an open face helmet with peak for one with a screen. I find the new helmet noisier and too bright when riding into low sun, but warmer and safer for flying debris. what would be ideal would be some way to fit a peak 'and' the screen as I had in teh sixties.
I can get rid of teh noise by installing a taller screen for my fairing.

I've got a Nolan N84 which has the sun visor over the top of the main visor. I chose this helmet as I was also using black tape at the top of my visor. Even half closed so it's acting as shade, it's effective but you must keep it spotlessly clean if using it fully closed.

http://www.helmets4u.co.uk/images/N8....Silv%2031.jpg

I saw some visor strip a few years ago with...

"In the event of an accident, please do not remove my helmet"

... written across it. Seems a good idea to me. Joe Public tries to be too helpful sometimes

peak and visor
 

The TourX can be used with both peak and visor, just the visor, just the peak, no peak and no visor, EIEIO
(with thanks to Old McDonand)


JCBP, I used ordinary black plastic electrical tape for the strip

Bill

Hi All, Thanks for all of the tips and points made, I have now got a 30mm strip of black tape on the top of the outside of the outer visor and this has transformed the helmet - just the same effect as the peak on my Tour X. Out of interest one of the reasons I bought the new helmet was that the chinstrap on the Tour X was getting frayed, I mentioned this to the sales guy at Hein Gericke and he has sent the helmet back to Arai who are replacing the strap and checking out the rest of the helmet FREE OF CHARGE! Result!! The helmet is about 2 and a half years old and been worn for about 25,000 miles.
Cheers Mike

if the helmets not certified to use without the chinbar locked down why do caberg sell a kit to turn it into an open face? (and supply it free with some helmets)

the new shark evoline is dual certified as both a fullface and openface, i'll be getting one soon so the police can kiss my hairy sweaty smelly arse.