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motorbike mike 18 Feb 2008 19:31

Helmet Visor - Shade strip for low sun ?
 
Hi All - I've just got a great deal on a Caberg Justissimo Flip up type helmet, it's brilliant, it has an inner shaded visor a main clear visor and at low speed I can leave the chin guard up and this acts as a peak ( illegal but the police do it ! ) My only problem is that I'm used to an Arai tour X which has a peak, so I was wondering does anyone put a strip of tape or something across the top of their visor to cut out the low sun ? All suggestions gratefully recieved ( sensible ones anyway )
Cheers Mike

Martynbiker 18 Feb 2008 20:03

yes, try this
 
go to a sign maker ( any place that do vehicle graphics or window tinting too ) try the Yellow Pages or similar and ask for a strip of 'static cling' film in green or blue this will stick on to your visor and can be trimmed with a blade, but will pull off and can be reused many times.

or try Cherwell Sign Supplies phone no is 01280 840297 they should sort you out

Bill Holland 18 Feb 2008 21:07

I used to use a Justimo, and I stuck black tape along bottom inch of the inner 'shade', when the sun was low, I just lowered shade a little 'till the sun was blocked out. When the inner visor was pulled all the way down, the bottom blacked out inch wasn't in line of sight. If you have both the clear visir and shaded visor down when the sun is low in your eyes, you get twice the light scatter, and twice the muck,snot and other crud reducing your vision (x3 in my case as I wear glasses as well)
Went on to a TourX later.
The police use BMW helmets with the chin guard up 'cus they are certified (the helmets - not the police!) for use with the chin guard up or down.

Tony P 18 Feb 2008 22:51

Bill
I had the problem some years ago of regularly being stopped by police about the 'open' flip helmet. So I wrote to BMW for clarification.

As expected, they would not give an unequivical written reply about legality or complying with British Standards with it open. They dealt with my letter by phoning, saying in their opinion it would be safer and advisable to keep it closed.

How helpful these people become once they have your money!! Grrr

motorbike mike 19 Feb 2008 15:22

Bill,
That's a great idea Bill - I hadn't thought of putting tape on the inner visor! I'll give it a go - what's the bet that the sun stays in ...
Cheers Mike

jcbp 22 Feb 2008 17:15

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Originally Posted by motorbike mike (Post 175499)
Bill,
That's a great idea Bill - I hadn't thought of putting tape on the inner visor! I'll give it a go - what's the bet that the sun stays in ...
Cheers Mike

What sort of tape and is it removable again without residue should it get tatty?

Sime66 22 Feb 2008 17:23

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Originally Posted by Tony P (Post 175370)
Bill
I had the problem some years ago of regularly being stopped by police about the 'open' flip helmet.

I've used a Shoei Syncrotec since 2004 and I always have it flipped up under 40mph-ish. I thought it was legal and I've never been stopped by the cops - maybe my luck's about to run out. But it's definitely more fun with the wind up your nostrils.

Tony P 22 Feb 2008 17:34

Motor racing drivers (car), a few years ago, used to put black tape across the top and bottom of their goggles leaving a narrow strip of clear directly in front of their eyes of an inch or so.

The idea was to exclude both the sun from above and glare from below (coming off the car bodywork and track surfaces) - as well as not seeing anything which might distract the concentration away from the job in hand.

I have considered doing this on the top of a full face helmet visor, but not done it.

Tony P 22 Feb 2008 17:41

Simon
I did say years ago. The very early BMW flip front helmets were not even BSI approved to a road use standard until about the mid 1980s.

I continue using flip fronts, as you, open in towns (so as to be more aware of sounds around) and must admit not having been stopped for maybe 18 years for it.


By the way, how do you get the Quote section in a box?, TIA someone.

Sime66 22 Feb 2008 20:19

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Originally Posted by Tony P (Post 176135)


By the way, how do you get the Quote section in a box?, TIA someone.

You should have a "quote" button at the bottom left of each post..

DougieB 22 Feb 2008 20:30

I did an instructors course in the UK last year. The official line is that flip-up helmets are certified for use in the closed position. So riding with them up is, technically, riding with an uncertified helmet. That's how they view (the law) view it.

Whether certain manufacturers choose to run through the certification process twice (once for closed position, and once for piss-pot style) is up to them. Given a helmet is a commercial product, I suspect manufacturers would not go above and beyond the very minimal to be legal.

I've never seen a cop riding with the helmet open. You could always try a citizens arrest?

Agree with Simon, there's nothing like having the wind and grit on your face. But with the option of keeping the locusts off if required.

Tony P 22 Feb 2008 21:37

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Originally Posted by Sime66 (Post 176166)
You should have a "quote" button at the bottom left of each post..

Simon. Thanks.

It was never there when writing a reply! You have to do it before.
Actually the Quote button should read "Reply with quote".

But it works! Watch me go now!
Thanks again.

Tony P 22 Feb 2008 21:42

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Originally Posted by DougieB (Post 176169)
II've never seen a cop riding with the helmet open. You could always try a citizens arrest?

ooh - I like this system!!

Dougie

I often do see them in London but prefer to keep quiet and not risk the time taken for a complete inspection of my bike.

I do intend, one day, taking a photo or two of them to keep and , if necessary, use 'in mitigation'!

ozhanu 22 Feb 2008 21:57

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Originally Posted by jcbp (Post 176132)
What sort of tape and is it removable again without residue should it get tatty?

i am using black electrical isolate tape on top of the outher visor and it helps a lot. easy to remove if needed but i have never removed it. see picture please..
it was my instructor advice while doing the cbt in the UK.

oldbmw 22 Feb 2008 22:23

I recently changed from an open face helmet with peak for one with a screen. I find the new helmet noisier and too bright when riding into low sun, but warmer and safer for flying debris. what would be ideal would be some way to fit a peak 'and' the screen as I had in teh sixties.
I can get rid of teh noise by installing a taller screen for my fairing.


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