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onlyMark 7 May 2011 08:30

I think your question from my post was answered. So yes, you can carry 275kg.
Imagine when you're packing that it isn't a car, imagine you're going two up on a CG125. If ever you want to know how to keep things lightweight, you're on the right forum.

moggy 1968 7 May 2011 21:33

is that unladen weight or kerb weight, which would include the driver?
for weight and access tuperware rules! plastic crates and boxes are very light and make loading a lot easier. unlike bin bags items are protected and you can see whats in them. The really useful box company makes a great selection of placcy boxes

Neil 7 May 2011 22:07

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Originally Posted by onlyMark (Post 334956)
I think your question from my post was answered. So yes, you can carry 275kg.
Imagine when you're packing that it isn't a car, imagine you're going two up on a CG125. If ever you want to know how to keep things lightweight, you're on the right forum.

Having just crossed Africa on a DRZ with soft luggage, I'd say I'm pretty clued up on lightweight packing.

Does anyone know if there are there any fuel carriers/tanks about for inside a car on the market? As in, not necessarily a jerry can..... something that can be like a metre wide or so, that could be strapped down inside the car, under everything else ... but be filled by a hose or something?

Neil 8 May 2011 11:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 335031)
Having just crossed Africa on a DRZ with soft luggage, I'd say I'm pretty clued up on lightweight packing.

Does anyone know if there are there any fuel carriers/tanks about for inside a car on the market? As in, not necessarily a jerry can..... something that can be like a metre wide or so, that could be strapped down inside the car, under everything else ... but be filled by a hose or something?

Would one of these do the trick as a fuel tank?
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tacr2man 8 May 2011 19:36

Major rule dont carry fuel esp petrol inside vehicle :devil2:

if you must carry extra fuel then in jerrycan in bracket on outside of vehicle. In many countries this is illegal as well . If you overload , and have an accident your insurer will not accept claim . Not trying to be a party pooper but you dont want any extra problems JMHO

Neil 8 May 2011 21:36

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Originally Posted by tacr2man (Post 335094)
Major rule dont carry fuel esp petrol inside vehicle :devil2:

if you must carry extra fuel then in jerrycan in bracket on outside of vehicle. In many countries this is illegal as well . If you overload , and have an accident your insurer will not accept claim . Not trying to be a party pooper but you dont want any extra problems JMHO

I'm getting conflicting advice here. I have to keep the weight down low, but shouldn't carry the fuel inside? ... I guess I should convert this car into a pick-up. with a roof-rack. doh

twobob 9 May 2011 13:14

Sorry mate this rule about carrying fuel inside doesn't apply in Aus. or if it does is overlooked. Your only option would be the roof-rack as I cant see a place for the bracket. That tank you mention. if up to fuel spec. and installed professionally and boxed in ? maybe , ask your insurer if this would suffice.
Maybe check if a bigger fuel tank will fit, sometimes there is room.
Whats your budget on prepping the car ?

Neil 18 May 2011 10:55

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Originally Posted by twobob (Post 335166)
Sorry mate this rule about carrying fuel inside doesn't apply in Aus. or if it does is overlooked. Your only option would be the roof-rack as I cant see a place for the bracket. That tank you mention. if up to fuel spec. and installed professionally and boxed in ? maybe , ask your insurer if this would suffice.
Maybe check if a bigger fuel tank will fit, sometimes there is room.
Whats your budget on prepping the car ?

Thanks for all your advice, I'm going to hold off further planning until January-February.

rclafton 18 May 2011 11:34

Tom Sheppard uses jerrycans stored low in the centre of his merc g wagon (photos in one of his books)

Strapped down of course, and it is diesel, I would not do that with petrol but your chosen steed is diesel so not so much of an issue.

If you get an extra tank fitted it should be to fuel spec if plastic (don't assume a water tank can be used) and arrange to fill it outside the vehicle otherwise you will live with the stink of spilled diesel

Mr Rob 14 Feb 2013 12:12

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 333851)
I'm intending on doing something very similar to the Mongol Rally without participating in the event, in a 400-500cc car and at my leisure. Ultimately, selling the vehicle on once in Ulan Bator.

Hi Neil

Have you done this yet? We're more than happy to offer any advice if you would like to give us a call or drop us an email.

Last year there were at least 4 groups who tried to do this without first researching the cost of importing their vehicle into Mongolia. PLEASE do your research first as most do not realise it is a hell of a lot cheaper (and a lot less hassle) to do this with the Rally than to try and import the vehicles themselves.

In 2012 we saw the Czech embassy bailing out one couple attempting to do this, another who lost several thousands of dollars attempting to import and sell their large and old 4x4, one turned away at the Mongolian border who were then charged a fine for returning to Russia after being stamped out, and one more who abandoned their vehicle that may or may not realise they'll be arrested if they ever return - Mongolian customs failed to get them on the way out (they mistakenly came to us first thinking that it might be on our Rally).

Not a sales pitch, I just don't want to see the same situations we tend to see a few times each year when people come to us asking for help importing their vehicles because they weren't aware of the import cost.

[Was hoping to insert a link to current import costs for Mongolia, but nowhere seems to have uptodate information. If you drop us an email we can tell you the current costs.]

Rob (Mongol Rally Event Manager)
mongolrally@theadventurists.com

Neil 15 Feb 2013 23:39

Rob, I decided to concentrate my efforts on a far more worthy cause, besides this was 2011. After researching, I concluded Mongolia would be far more appreciated on 2 wheels. :) :scooter:


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