xtz660 oil levels.
 

this is an easy one... how much oil does my xtz 660 `96 take for an oil change,and what spec. oil would you recomend.. thanks..phil

Look in that CD I sent you - ya edjet !! (only joking haha)

I think its something like 3 ltrs if you replace the oil filter slighty less if you leave the filter in. BUT I always seem to put in nearly 4 ltrs to bring it to the dipstick level. Don't know why its like this but it dosen't seem to do it any harm.

As far as oil goes I use Castrol GPS semi synthetic 10w/40.

i thought you might say that ralph...
its a long story, but i cant get my disk drive working...I KNEW...you would save me... i drained the oil from bike and there was just over one litre...ouch, im hoping no damage done..cheers mate...phil.

Hi,
you obviously did not drain oil from both drain bolts, one is in the frame, other down on the left side of the gearbox... One liter is not enough for the engine to work properly.. I usually add around 3 - 3.2 liters of oil when changing with filter replacement, around three dcl less without filter replacement... Use semishyntetic oil, i use ester blend Motul 15W-50.
AnteK

It's definitely 3 l. with filter change.

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

ahh, the second bolt in the frame.....doh!!!
ive really got to look at the workshop manual....thanks guys, big help.

Mmmm... wonder if i'm doing something wrong...

My 96 XTZ (twin headlight 4MY) takes over 4 litres when I do a full filter and oil change.

Hi Tony, how do you know that you have to add 4 litres? Don't forget that you cannot measure the oil level unless you have been riding for at least 15-20 kilometers. So look in the book and fill up the quantity of oil that is mentioned.

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

I fill the bike with about 3 litres and then run if for a few minutes, then top it up, and run it again.

I do this increasing the time the bike runs for until no more goes in when the bike has run.

Then I take it for a ride about 10km and bring it home and check the levels again.

Every time I chnge the oil I also do the filter and take the lower pipe off that connects to the bottom of the engine to ensure it is completely emptied.

Tony, the only diference I can see is that I don't take the pipe off, but would this make 1 l. difference?
There's 1 thing you don't mention : after you have taken her out for a ride, how is the level?



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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

Normally it hasn't moved at all - get home, leave it idling for a couple of minuted to settle down and check again.

This is the one thing about my XT600 that bugs me! How could Yamaha devise such a bloody complex system of checking the oil level. It should be so simple!!!!!!
Sorry just a gripe no help offered.
Cheers Dave.

ok the whole oil situation through me into a spin... my bike happily took 3.5 litres of oil, and i was checking the oil when the bike had been sitting for a while (as you normally would) now i find out you have to check the level after the bikes been running for 1o minutes....hmmmm....im glad ive brought the subject up.thanks lads..phil.

[This message has been edited by futronix (edited 18 June 2003).]

Tony, what I meant was : is the level ok after you put in 4 l. or is it too high?

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

hi guys
- obviously Yamaha reckon 3ls of oil is enough for the bike, but what I'm finding is when you pour this amount in it dosen't show on the dipstick. I guess that's because it all goes into the sump, or more than is supposed to anyway (I don't know why - anybody know?).
It would be ok to leave it like that but because nothing shows on the dipstick you won't know if the oil level starts to drop. So I keep filing until it comes up to the Max on the dipstick, this takes slightly less than 4Lts in total, and I leave it at that.

Thats my simple approach to oil changes.

All the best

[This message has been edited by Ralph (edited 17 June 2003).]

Any dry sump(oil in frame) engine can be tricky to fill. I know, I've over filled a few different brands that use dry sumps.

HAving to run it and re check it is imparative. In order to let the oil pump scavenge the lower end and fill the frame/reserviour.

Filling to the stick instead of strictly sticking to the factory volume is correct. But , this rarely ends up being more than 300 cc than recommended.
A one liter difference doesn't seem correct.

Thanks,
Todd BEllew

The level is fine - it remains at the top of marker for the dip stick. It does not appear to be over filled as when I check it within a day or two it remains the same.

Hi Todd,

Your spot on! I buy my oil in 4L containers so I measured out what was left over from my last oil change. It didn't look like much in the bottom of the container but in fact I had 650 mls left over, meaning the bike had taken 3.35L to fill to the max level.

It ties in nicely with what your saying so I have no more worries about it.

All the best
Ralph

Is there a modification that will help?
 

I'd like to modify my '97 XTZ660 3YF so I don't have to deal with this issue.

Is there any way to add an oil pressure gage? An oil temperature gage? An oil level gage?

I love my Tenere but it's really a pain trying to fit my hand in and pull the dipstick to check oil every trip!

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