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Turbo charged xt600?
Any thoughts on using one of these little jap turbos? Thinking of giving one a go in the buggy.
Turbocharger and EFI Fuel Injection kits |
I'm not sure why, but I just cant see an XT engine holding up to boosted applications. first thing in my mind is grenade between legs...... not a thought I like to consider.
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Not for a bike but a off road buggy, so motor would behind in engine compartment.
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Honestly, I think its a lot of effort better spent on an I4 motor. if you're doing a turbo, I4 is the best to do that on, not a single cylinder.
Knowing a few people with turbo bikes, this route is quite pricey, and for the cost, unless money is absolutely no object, you could easily go out and buy a used 09 R1 for what it would cost to turbocharge a motorcycle. Really the big issue is that almost every turbo is too big, and honestly, having a custom made turbo, isnt at all cheap I dont think. |
Well, never say never but I suspect the reason why you don't see too many turbo'd four stroke singles is that their engine characteristics don't suit the way a turbo works.
You could probably make a reasonable go of fuel injection if you've got good engineering facilities, enough development time and a decent budget but apart from the satisfaction of doing it I'm not sure you'd gain a huge amount. It's obviously possible - most of the manufacturers have had to do it in the last decade or so. |
Good points never thought it would cost big to set it up.
I have a yamaha apex mtn snowmobile which runs the R1 motor so maybe another one in the buggy may be the answer but I do like the light weight xt600 motor. |
there was a company back in the early 90's who supercharged an Xtz660.
sure i've got a copy of "MegaSuperTotalSportNutterBike" magazine who did a review on it I'll go digging.. Andy |
Could be worth a look, The R1 motors turboed can put out 562hp which is crazy!!
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single cylinder engines are not a good idea for forced induction, especially turbo. the exhaust gas pulses are too widely spaced, and the lag would make the thing a pain to ride with. A small exhaust collector on the downpipe may smooth things a bit, but really, only do it cos you need a challenge, or you are trying to get through racing regs. (am still trying to sort a supercharged cg125)
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I hear ya, it would just be to play around with the buggy not the bike. May start looking for a r1 motor anyhow.
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single cyliner engines dont respond that well to turbocharging. The exhaust cycle isnt steady, it's on-off-on ect so the turbo doenst see a steady pressure to drive it.
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Yeh those busa motors rock but mega bucks.
I love the xt motor cause it light and power to weight is the key in these buggys. Think I'll keep it and just work on tuning and carbie kit. Any one know what the most HP you can get from one of these motors? |
Hey nikstik...
Since you're making a buggy XT600... I got a Mikuni BST40 single carb and a Yamaha Grizzly 600 2-into-1 cylinder head to carburetor intake manifold The Grizzly600 uses this carburetor and intake manifold... How about it? oh yeah, the grizzly600 engine is basically the same as the XT600E! Vando :cool4: |
Sounds sweet, you have any pics of it?
The buggy is already built but I'm always looking to make it faster. |
Hey!
Yeah I got a couple of pictures but they aren't that good of quality... Here they go: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02787.jpg http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02788.jpghttp://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02780.jpg http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-00_joint1.jpg http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-00_joint2.jpg The cover of the carb did have a small hole which I fixed look: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02792.jpg http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02797.jpghttp://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02799.jpghttp://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-dsc02796.jpg Oh, and as you can see, there is also a Rubber joint between the 2-into-1 joint and the carburetor which I bought it new from Yamaha. Besides that, I also got a KTM 640 LC4 twist throttle with cables to make work with this carb.. Vando :thumbup1: |
So what happens when you use this carb? More or less: power, fuel economy, torque, engine wear&tear?
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andre...have you ever thought of making a performance mod that would take away power from your bike?
I wouldn't do it! Besides, I'm considering selling the single carburetor because It's really hard to make it fit on the XT's frame without having to modify your frame slightly because it fits in direct line with the rear shock... I was advised about this and I was too stuborn thinking I could work around and modifying the frame. This slight modification on the frame can be really bad for it's integrity. This carburetor should work much better on the buggy than it would on the XT. No wonder why the Yamaha Grizzly 600 ATV switched from the XT's carburetor to this bigger single carburetor! Vando :cool4: |
So what s the price for it?
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Hi!
Do you also want the Throttle with cables? If you do, I'll take you just half of the price I paid for throttle! Also throw in a K&N conic style air filter and two other rubber joints I bought that might be useful to you if they don't make the package shipping category costs higher ,cool? 110€ plus shipping costs and it's yours! Although I'll only be able to send them on the 26th when I get back home unless I can make my brother who already is back home have everything shipped to you sooner! Vando :) |
Does it just run a normal motorbike cable? If so I already have one fitted to the buggy. Whats the small black unit on side of the carbie?
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yup, it can run motorcycle cables. I used the XT's cables to operate it.
The black plastic thing on the side is a from what I recall is KTM throttle position sensor.. do you know those cars who have an indicator on the dashboard that displays the miles/gallon of km/liter, it's that thing. It's just a sensor, it doesn't affect anything. If you want you can probably get that part from a wrecked KTM and fit it to the buggy somehow. Imagination is the limit :D Vando :cool4: |
cool, so what would be the shipping costs to Australia?
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Hi!
PM me your address so I can call the transport service and ask for a quote! :cool4: |
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the c/o is "care of" all mail goes to the post office not to our door.
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