Alternator/pickup wireing
 

Hi guys.
I have some questions about

The my 1986 1VJ Tenere has 10 wires coming up to the bikes wireharness from engine:

1: white/green, white/red, green in one connector. If I understand the electrical chart this shuld be the pick up coil

2: Black, Orange, Black/white. Ground, Ignition coil, engine stop switch. Right?

3: Red, Brown, From alternator to Regulator/rectifier, am I totaly lost??

4: Blue/yellow, Blue. Neutral switch and sidestand switch.

The 3TB engine I am installing has only 6 wires:

1: green, blue/yellow. Are these pick up?

2: 3x white. Alternator?

3: Blue. neutral switch

As you probably can see from my questions I have not got a wirediagram for the 3Tb. If someone can help with one I would be very greatfull.

I was going to use the alternator and pick up from the 1vj but Im suspecting that they are not as good as I tought. So Im exploreing the possibility of useing the alternator set up from the 3tb together with the CDI from the 1vj.
What do you think?

Tom.

Hi Tom,

If you search back through the previous posts you should find a copy of the 3AJ wiring diagram, I did a little while ago. If you can't, let me know your email address (or suggest another method) and I will send you a copy of what I have.

This wiring diagram shows 8 wires coming from the alternator / magneto, plus the neutral switch wire will also be bundled with them. I'm not sure if the side stand switch makes it's own way up to the loom.

The 3 white wires are the alternator windings

There shoud also be 3 wires going to a plug, coloured green/yellow, white/green and blue/yellow. I assume that these are the pick up coils.

There should also be two wires going to bullet connectors, a red and a brown (I think, the scan is bleary)These supply power to the CDI

The neutral switch shold connect to a sky blue wire.


I am not sure if the 1VJ CDI and the 3aj CDI are interchangable, I would be careful to check that the positions the various wires plug into haven't changed possitions, they did on the voltage rectifier / regulator!

Good luck

Mark

Sorry
 

But 1VJ has CDI ignition, 3TB has TCI. Meaning: stators and blackboxes ('CDI' or 'TCI' box) are not interchangeable.
Converting your 1VJ wiring harness into a TCI ignition involves major modifications. Difficult but not impossible.

But, you could consider just to swap the LH cover from the 3TB with the one from the 1VJ. Else, buy a new stator or get it rewound.

Auke

ahaa.......
 

Hi.

And thanks for the help guys,Im geting more and more impressed with the knowlege and skills pople that meet on this site posess.:thumbup1:

Mark.

Thank you I will PM you my e-mail, I did search the treads back and found some scans that I downloaded. But they were not very good,it´s hard to make out the details.

The wires that you say are coloured green/yellow, white/green and blue/yellow are the ones that have me confused.
On my bike they are: white/green, white/red, green. And that doesn´t corespond to the wire diagram for a 1986 Tenere(with electrical start)

But if I look at a diagram for Tenere 1985 it fits except for the green wire.
The alternator seems to be an original Yamaha.But maybe some previous owner has changed it:confused1:

Auke.

Ahaa... I tought that the TCI was introdused later.
I have to read up on XT history:cool4:

I have seen both brown and black boxes on eBay that the sellers have claimed are taken from 3Aj´s.
The engine Im fitting is a 94.
Is there a code system that one can use to identify the boxes?

Any way, as I can see this means I will have to change the regulator (probably shuld do that any way, Im running the one without cooling fins) get a TCI-box and probably a s**t load of conectors if I want to run the original 3tb set up:rolleyes2:
On the other hand, fitting the older system would have the advantage of not geting dependent of a funktional battery(the climate here is a real battery killer)

What about starter engine, will that fit from the new engine in to the cover of the 1vj? it looks very diffrent from the out side.
Can´t use the old starter because it has burnt out.


Tom.

would this fit?
 

Just found this box on ebay:

eBay: CDI YAMAHA XT 600 E (Artikel 130120457541 endet 08.06.07 17:48:09 MESZ)

Would it fit?

Tom.

well
 

Identification of CDI boxes: the partnumber inscribed on the box starts with 3AJ, so that's easy.

Starter motor: I don't know, just try.

If you are not very good with electrics, suggest you do not try to change the wiring harness on the bike.

Regulator: I have the one without cooling fins on my 3AJ, now already for 110.000 km, 17 years. Still working: do not worry.

Auke

so many diffrent colours
 

i own a xt 400 1993 3tb tci 6 wires same as xt 600 i think

orange to coil
black earth
red and black live
black and white to stand switch
blue and yellow to pickup coil
green and white to pickup coil

the blue is the nutral light hope this helps ya

then 3 whites go to regulator
but this bike is a none runner at the moment caint get spark
and every post on wiring seems to have different colour wiring and no one seems to have wiring diagrams please if anyone does have a wiring diagram can they send it to me thanks karl uk :thumbup1:

manuals for XT600e xt600 and tt600 here
hope this helps some of you fellow riders just found this link

Parts Catalogue for XT600e
Workshop Manual for XT600
Workshop Manual for TT600

Please note that both workshop manuals are huge files (about 140MB) and will take a while to download.

Smokin` Lizard in the Downloads section.:D