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Newbie311 26 May 2007 16:52

what is the biggest sportbike thats good for new riders.
 
Hello, im just now getting into motorcycles and am trying to learn as much as possible, im about 6'5 and 300 lbs. I like the sportbikes because the seating position is more comfortable on my back. Which bike would be good size wise to get, Im currently learning on my cousins bike around the neighborhood before I start the class, its a suziki gs, however a little small. Any recomendations.

kbikey 27 May 2007 05:41

what bike?
 
Buy your cousin's bike or similar and ride at least 10,000 miles and go a least 3 states away from where you are. Then get back to us with your big plans . Ride a lot its the best way to learn if you want to ride a lot more.

Walkabout 27 May 2007 09:38

......and while you are doing that, borrow as many of your friends bikes as possible and ride them, talk to lots of other riders where-ever and whenever you are out and read all of the bike magazines that you can get!
Also, fall off a few times, preferably at slowish speeds.
Oh yes, read the threads in here as well!
Try a few test rides of bikes that the dealers have in your area.
That will get you started!!:cool4:

Enjoy,

Dave

trophymick 27 May 2007 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbie311 (Post 137683)
Hello, im just now getting into motorcycles and am trying to learn as much as possible, im about 6'5 and 300 lbs. I like the sportbikes because the seating position is more comfortable on my back. Which bike would be good size wise to get, Im currently learning on my cousins bike around the neighborhood before I start the class, its a suziki gs, however a little small. Any recomendations.



You may find it comfy on your back, but your wrists and knees won't thank you, especially on a long ride, but I MAY be wrong:thumbup1: As some others have said, get some saddle time in, try some 300/500 mile day rides, your height may be a stumbling block (I am 6'1" and find sports bikes far too small, but then I am getting on in years:clap:). You will find it a good thing to be able to move around on a bike, to relieve pressure points, until you have really experienced the 'I can't feel my ass for the pain' syndrome, you won't understand :rofl: Whatever you choose, pick function over fashion, you won't regret it:mchappy:



Trophymick

MarkLG 27 May 2007 11:20

A big lad like yourself will probably find the lastest range of sportsbikes pretty cramped - ok for a short ride, but no good if you want to head further afield.
Take a look at the Yamaha Fazer 600/1000 or Suzuki Bandits if you want a comfortable road style bike with plenty of space to move around on.
Whatever you get make sure it's at least a 600cc - you'll quickly become bored/frustrated if you get something too small.

quastdog 27 May 2007 23:17

Talk about possible trollers
 
So can Newbie311 really be serious - as in, he knows so little about motorcycles that he posts a question about what kind of sport bike to buy to a website for adventure travel motorcyclists. I know we're all a friendly and helpful group, but...

Is this for real or what?

C'mon Newbie311 - level with us!

henryuk 28 May 2007 08:07

what about all the people doing hardcore adventure travel on Sportsbikes then? (RTW world on an R1, trans Sahara on a TNT etc)

If you want a fun bike for tarmac the get a sportsbike, if you want hardcore off-road get a 250 - 650 single, if you want a good compromise get a big traillie. I would suggest an Africa Twin or a Cagive Elefant (if you have a strong mechanical bent or a large servicing budget). In an ideal world I would have a 250 2-smoker (for local off-roading), a Highland Allroad (for longer trips and sick speed) and a Fireblade (for track days etc).........

Whatever you get ride it lots and lots - that's the way forward. Would agree that anything under a 600 would be a bad move for a road bike (first bike was 750 and never had any probs handling the power).

quastdog 28 May 2007 14:29

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Originally Posted by henryuk (Post 137846)
what about all the people doing hardcore adventure travel on Sportsbikes then? (RTW world on an R1, trans Sahara on a TNT etc)

So, the Newbie311 has never ridden a motorcycle before - thinks that he's more comfortable on a sport bike - because of the position!? - than something else. And is asking for advice from this group as to what to buy. Sure, you can go RTW on just about anything, as the members of HU have demonstrated over and over.

Sorry if I think this post is a bit fishy.

Walkabout 28 May 2007 15:48

Time will tell Quastdog - lets see what "Newbie" decides to buy. When he gets a bike, that is one more convert!

Newbie,
Go for it! Lots of info in here about bikes and related things but, as Quastdog says, not too much about sports bikes (in fact, probably nothing!!) - however lots of contributors to this forum will own more than one bike including a wide range of sports bikes, or they owned one (or more) in the past or whatever.......

Dave

Newbie311 29 May 2007 02:14

My apologies, as I said I am new, apparently not the best site for new people. Amazing how anybody gets into it with responses like that. Despite a few very helpful ones, I think I will try a different site, thanks for the help for those of you who arent CAPTAIN CYCLE.

Walkabout 30 May 2007 15:41

Stick in there "Newbie"
 
No problems Newbie -- you will come across people who are on all sorts of forums as well as this one + we all started somewhere with this particular one!!!!

If you read into the info in this one you will find a vast amount of different opinions held and views are expressed with a lot of conviction at times; that's the advantage we all have of free speech.

It's often been said that you can go round the world (RTW) on any bike, including a sports model so this site is as relevant to you as any other single contributor IMHO. BUT, we don't all ride around the world and that is not a qualification to use this forum.

If I can make one suggestion: please put in your name on your next posting - Newbie sounds very "remote"!!! :cool4:

Cheers,

Dave

klaus 30 May 2007 23:43

Stay with us...
 
:welcome: ...and I got to agree!! Some of the folks here seem to write their comments just to p... o.. others. So - don't worry about them!

If it was me, I'd get a nice BMW, Honda AT or TransAlp or something similar! With your size and with what you are planning to do - yup...that's it.

It all depends also on your budget, of course!!

quastdog 31 May 2007 02:44

I'm guessing Newbie didn't read this - from the homepage

"Are you a Motorcycle Traveller? Does the smell of spices wafting through the air make you think of Zanzibar, a cacophony of honking horns is Cairo, or a swirl of brilliantly patterned clothing Guatemala? Then this is the site for you!"

I'm guessing he did a search of motorcycles, came up with this website, and posted his note without even checking into what this website was all about.

He's clueless, about bikes, motorcycle travel, and this website. When I read his post, before anyone responded, I figured he posted for kicks it was so lame.

I couldn't believe anyone actually responded to his question, which is why I jumped in.

And it just won't die, will it?

trophymick 31 May 2007 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by quastdog (Post 138204)

He's clueless, about bikes, motorcycle travel, and this website. When I read his post, before anyone responded, I figured he posted for kicks it was so lame.

I couldn't believe anyone actually responded to his question, which is why I jumped in.

And it just won't die, will it?


Maybe some people like to give 'benefit of doubt' before knocking folk:thumbup1:


Trophymick

Izatafac 31 May 2007 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by quastdog (Post 138204)

He's clueless, about bikes, motorcycle travel, and this website. When I read his post, before anyone responded, I figured he posted for kicks it was so lame.

Well, if he's 'clueless' (only your opinion), what better way to get clued-up (is that a word?) than to ask questions? How else do you find stuff out?

Walkabout 31 May 2007 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by quastdog (Post 138204)
I'm guessing Newbie didn't read this - from the homepage

"Are you a Motorcycle Traveller? Does the smell of spices wafting through the air make you think of Zanzibar, a cacophony of honking horns is Cairo, or a swirl of brilliantly patterned clothing Guatemala? Then this is the site for you!"

I'm guessing he did a search of motorcycles, came up with this website, and posted his note without even checking into what this website was all about.

He's clueless, about bikes, motorcycle travel, and this website. When I read his post, before anyone responded, I figured he posted for kicks it was so lame.

I couldn't believe anyone actually responded to his question, which is why I jumped in.

And it just won't die, will it?

That's a lot of guessing and judgement made about someone you don't know. The first post says that he is new into bikes and keen to learn. What is your point Quastdog and why should it die?

For your information, I also wondered about the original post when I first read it and I waited a bit before trying to answer, but my thoughts were along the lines of how to answer such a wide open question (where to start basically) - nevertheless, it was worth trying!!!

Dave

quastdog 31 May 2007 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 138227)
That's a lot of guessing and judgement made about someone you don't know. The first post says that he is new into bikes and keen to learn. What is your point Quastdog and why should it die?

His first posting was what's the biggest sportbike a new rider should purchase? Seems like he's made up his mind on what sort of rider he is (the comment about the comfort of a sport bike - that doesn't make you go "hunh?"). As to learning, yes, he wants to learn how to ride a sport bike. And about not knowing anything about him, you're right - his profile was totally blank. But I'll wager he's an American - image is everything, or so the Madison Ave. marketing-advertising execs tell us. Its so easy for us to buy into what they sell us.

Every week there's postings here from people that just signed up - the worst being the one's posting list of cell phones, sunglasses and such - others are posting a "hey, check out this new website I found" message to steer traffic to some website they have an interest in, some not even related to the purpose of this site, some only modestly related, but the true purpose is the same. So lots of postings that are a waste of time for most of us.

It should die because I made a mistake with my original posting and Newbie311 has departed and this is now turned into a flame war against me. So I'm going to move on now, you can keep posting to this thread all you want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 138227)
For your information, I also wondered about the original post when I first read it and I waited a bit before trying to answer, but my thoughts were along the lines of how to answer such a wide open question (where to start basically) - nevertheless, it was worth trying!!!

His next posting would probably be asking about recommendations on leathers and skid protectors. He's better off resuming his search for help on sport bikes from sportbike related websites. Maybe in a few years after he's ridden some, he'll be back here looking for information relevant to the purpose and mission of this website. I promise not to trash him then.

Bye.

Christopherjs 1 Jun 2007 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbie311 (Post 137683)
Hello, im just now getting into motorcycles and am trying to learn as much as possible, im about 6'5 and 300 lbs. I like the sportbikes because the seating position is more comfortable on my back. Which bike would be good size wise to get, Im currently learning on my cousins bike around the neighborhood before I start the class, its a suziki gs, however a little small. Any recomendations.

Newbie.. mate i'm a sportsbike rider that is thinking about getting into ADV bikes as i'm in the early planning stages of extended bike trravel so i think i can answer to some extent. I also have a mate that is 6'5" that i did quite a bit of bike shopping with.
As you have said your "just getting into bikes" then i'll presume you don't have a lot of riding experience. Personally i think there are a lot of bikes that would suit your cause that are powered by sportsbike engines but are a bit more suitable to your size. So i will just put some suggestions down and advise you to go and sit on them and ride them and keep researching, hyou also haven't mentioned a price range which makes things a little difficult.
  • Triumph ST Sprint
  • Triumph Speed Triple
  • Aprilia RSV (big bike so very suitable and nice power delivery)
  • Honda VFR
  • Suzuki SV650** + SV1000
  • Yamaha FZ600 + FZ1000
  • Kawasaki Z750* + Z1000
There are plenty of bikes around so get out there talk to people in dealerships and sit on bikes is my suggestion...
Have fun!
Chris

tprata56 22 Jun 2007 21:51

Captain Cycle
 
"CAPTAIN CYCLE" - That was Funny lol

ade.d 28 Jun 2007 14:08

firestorm
 
try the vtr 1000f firestorm.they are a lot of bike for the money.not too intimidating to ride ,although they are good for 150 allegedly lol.compact,comfy,great build (honda).one minus is tank range 100 to reserve then another 20.not too bad though.slight vee vibes as usual but not bad.just sold mine and regret it.:(

Walkabout 28 Jun 2007 15:37

Oh no!!
 
You've brought it all back Ade!!

I also much regret selling a Firestrom a few years ago; agree V twins are well worth considering incl the 'storm. Fortunately, they are still being sold, so some day..............

Mine was just like yours; about 100 mile range and then looking for fuel, but what a ride!!

Dave

BOB UK 29 Jun 2007 11:06

My son 6 foot tall started off with a Yamaha Thundercat they are not trendy but a great bike and they have 2 seats so his girlfriend goes with him on it

He Went from an XL125 to a Yamaha Thundercat and now has a DRZ400 as well which works great for him he has been to France for a week on the cat and done lots of off road on the DRZ
My advice for what its worth (not much I hear you say ) is ignore horsepower figures they are all a bit pie in the sky get a bike that you feel comfortable on and get out there and ride almost any modern bike of over 600cc will scare the poo out of you to start with



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