New Honda 350 Adv scooter?
 

What do you guys think about the socalled Adv-scooters? Just another Adv-hype? Selling scooters by using the magic 3 letters «ADV»…?

Well - anyhow Honda already have 2 different Adv scooters, namely a 150 cc model and a 750 cc model. Now we might get a new 350 cc type Adv scooter?

https://advrider.com/hondas-oddball-...ws-into-a-350/

Given the number of people who have rented Burgmans and then said they're the best thing since sliced bread, I'd keep an open mind! A friend of a friend in Scotland has one of the big X-ADVs and it looks like they have a lot of fun on it ... they're way out of my price range though, and with a 17" front wheel I'm imagining they're a little limited off road.

They don't sell the little one in Spain at the moment, which seems a bit weird (?)

The scooters are great.

When someone can explain "ADV" without a Touratech catalogue and a trip to Starbucks I'll decide if they are any good for that.

The scooters can tour. They can do loose surfaces the locals call roads, the locals typically using variants of the "ADV" scooters long lost grand parents . They can do a MX course for far enough to get a photo where the scrapman's van is out of shot (just) , but that's true of most bikes not sold for MX.

I'd probably pick a Forza 350/Bugman400/Kymco400 though, just because "ADV" seems to involve pointless seat height (maybe that's what it means?).

Andy

Certainly a funky looking bike but I pick up a new RE Meteor 350 next week so I won't be getting one.

He-he, lucky you!:thumbup1:

The article points out why they are popular - they let you ride on poorly maintained roads in the city and around without worrying or caring.

Not sure if I would buy one, but I'd very happily rent one on holiday.

I almost bought the ADV150 here in Oz. Almost - the frame size was just a little tight for my replacement knee for comfort.

The ADV300, if even 10% bigger in size, should be perfect for me.

The 150 had power to sit on 100km/h all day, secure under seat storage, and a factory top box. Add some soft panniers to the sides and it will take me everywhere that I would probably ever need to go. So the 300 should hit the mark perfectly.

I have been following a couple of Aussies on their ubetube channel North and Left a Bit and the 150 would have done that as easily (perhaps easier) than their 650’s.

https://youtu.be/3KE8wd7hOWc


I mentioned this before, but I have a GSA and used to have a Burgman 250 next to it for giggles. I enjoyed riding them both the same. Scoot’s are fun.

Just perfect for out of town pizza delivery :rofl:

Actually, as I started my ADV career on a scooter (I went to see Stonehenge on my Lambretta when I was 16 :rolleyes2:) I have a soft spot for this kind of thing and as a mid range, no ego kind of bike I think its got a lot to offer. I've seen quite a few loaded up touring scooters over the course of the summer just gone so people do use them for 'adventure'. Maybe the manufacturers have picked up on a trend and spent another 10p on better suspension and an ADV sticker. :thumbup1: from me anyway.

Like AnTyx I'm unlikely to buy one but I'd certainly rent one on holiday (as long as they don't end up as the usual no brakes and won't start rental)

http://www.morocco-knowledgebase.net/photos/s101592.jpg

A dozen years ago I was on my way to Dakar and in Nouakchott (Mauritania) I came across a Nick Sanders expedition to Timbuctou. As is par for the course many of the participants were complaining of too many miles, poor hotels, not enough food... LOL

http://www.morocco-knowledgebase.net/photos/s101593.jpg

I got up early the next morning to take this pre-dawn photo of their departure. Mostly Adventure-type bikes kitted out from the Touratech catalogue. Except for the older guy on the 580cc Honda Silver Wing scooter wearing a jet-style helmet, so I made him centre frame of the photo. I later spoke to bikers who had met the group of their way back north. Like me they were intrigued with the scooter rider and confirmed he had got all the way to Timbuctou.

The Silver Wing's 14-in front wheel would be far better than the tiny 10-in wheels I had on my Lambretta GT225, but the latest Honda X-Adv scooters have 17-in front wheels which wouldn't be a disaster on gravel tracks.

Nowadays I have access to hundreds of miles of unrestricted tracks from our place in Spain so the green lanes of the UK don't interest me and I could quite happily swap my London-based KTM 790 Adventure for the Honda X-Adv scooter. 350cc could be a sweet spot.

What will be interesting is whether it is also released in Japan domestic as a 249cc to get around the Shakken rego issue.

ADV
 

The marketing departments put ADV on more or less anything.
This is the hype for now.

ADV, none except marketing guys, knows what it means.

ADV here means aggressive styling more than anything, and that's not a bad thing.

A 350cc scooter would make a good travel bike. I have a KTM 790 Adventure, but I will take my Yamaha XMax 300 scooter for some trips on the road. The Honda's large wheels would be a plus compared to the XMax.

300cc engine size is more than capable, although it won't win any speed records. They'll do highway speed, comfortable, excellent fuel economy, easy maintenance, nice relaxing ride, good weather protection, cheap and easy maintenance, no chain.

I wouldn't look to take the new Honda X-ADV 300 on a big off-road trip, but if I wanted to go around the world at a gentle pace with odd patches off bad/unsealed roads, I think I'd rather do that on something like the X-ADV instead of my KTM 790. I'd be more confident in making it without mechanical failure for one and also think it'd be a more enjoyable experience on a lower power machine that's just twist and go. When i've done trips on big bikes everything has pretty much just flown by munching miles with more expensive consumables.

BTW - the prospect of NOT having to clean, lube and adjust (and sometimes change) the chain is very tempting and alluring….(dont know if I used the correct/better english expressions here - but you get what I mean…)

I had a Burgman 250 in the shed alongside my R1200GSA. That Burg was so much fun.


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Hondas 350 ADV scooter has now been presented at EICMA. And the specs are readily available.

https://www.topgear.com.ph/moto-sapi...a4354-20211125

Weight wet = 186 kilos (sic)
Tank capacity is 11,5 liters and thus range is said to be 340 kms.
15 inch front wheel and 14 rear….
50 liter underseat storage compartment (wow - great!)
Engine is well known from Hondas 350 scooters the SHi350 and the Forza 350 and produces around 30 HP and 31,5 NM torque at 5250 rpm.

Maybe something to aim at when one gets old and frail, but 186 kilograms is quite a lot of weight to handle….