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bobbyrandall 6 Jun 2007 15:40

BMW R 850 R what do you think ?
 
I am going to go long distance ....sooner or later....yes....the bike is a BMW 2000 R850R..
COME ON THEN..throw your worst comments at it :thumbdown: (or otherwise :clap: )..I am ready..I CAN TAKE IT !!!:confused1:

jkrijt 6 Jun 2007 20:18

Great bike.
I used one for my trip in South-West USA and loved it.
My brother in law has one and he is sorry he didn't buy it years ago.

It is not realy an "adventure all-road" bike but then, most allroads are only used on tarmac and a bike like the R850R is very capable on dirtroads etc.

oldbmw 6 Jun 2007 22:02

Its a bike, its available to you so use it... especially if you like it.

bobbyrandall 7 Jun 2007 11:25

850
 
Yes I do like it and have done quite a bit of work to it myself, ( I have rebuilt the gearbox, bmw 5-speed box probs, what a surprise!) The whole point of my starting the thread to be truthfull is I am in two minds as to changing it for a GS1100...
GS1100...more expense as I already have the 850..
GS1100, better ground clearance,
GS1100 weighs more,
GS1100 slightly bigger tank,
R850 is lower, better control
R850 slightly less consumption
R850 weighs 20 kilos less

I may well have to make a decision next week, so please any comments will help...I had also figured on putting trail type tyres on the 850 and a sump-guard for the odd trail or gentle off-road ??........regards to all !!

Tim Cullis 7 Jun 2007 11:38

I had an 850R before buying a 1200GS and really liked it. Performance is perfectly adequate for long distance touring. I swapped it because
- the GS had better leg room (I was getting cramp on long runs), and
- the GS offered better luggage carrying capability.

Tim

jkrijt 8 Jun 2007 11:23

Keep the R850R
You know the bike. It is a good bike.
How often do you need the ground clearance of an 1100GS ?

If you buy a secondhand 1100GS, you don't know what you buy. (Unless it is from a trusted friend.)

ukKev 8 Jun 2007 18:12

i own a 1100gs & love it . Its the best bike ive ever owned ive had it about 15 months & put 27000m on it (i cant keep of it ) i had a loan of a R850R & did not like it at all . But if you like it then great . You could always have a go on a gs & see what you think.
Kev

bubba45chris 11 Jun 2007 13:05

r 850 r what do you think, I put 55,000kms on r1100r great
 
I had an r1100r fitted factory windscreen, tank bag hard bags and heated grips. travelled & camped from Munich to Arctic circle in Norway and back. No problems easy on petrol and tires, fitted crash bars and bmw sump guard for r1100gs. My mate had r850r, beautiful motor, perfect gearing.. IMO r1100r over geared. Enjoy the r850r.

mollydog 12 Jun 2007 07:20

Sounds like you're a BMW guy no matter how screwed up they are.

AliBaba 12 Jun 2007 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 139309)
Sounds like you're a BMW guy no matter how screwed up they are. You are willing to put up with repairs/failures. Badge of honor and all.... ??

You've already seen problems with your 850. What makes you think a GS1000 is any better? Or an Oil Head? They all have problems. Major problems. Stupid problems. Problems that in some cases BMW denies even exsist. A very nasty company in some respects.

The BMW NA Pres. says BMW are going to dominate motorcross/Supercross in a year or two. :eek3: :rofl: Now that's funny!

When you get serious about going RTW maybe you'll figure out BMW aren't the best choice for everyone. Some guys like to constantly fiddle and like to visit every BMW in every major city to order parts...and wait. And wait.

Jap bikes break too...but at a lesser rate than most BMW's. Hey, but maybe you'll be lucky? :rolleyes2: Who knows? My advice? Try thinking outside the
Blue Rondel Box for five minutes and see what you come up with.
:scooter:


Mollydog, could you please stop this bashing?
Is it so hard for you to understand that people travel all over the world with BMWs and most of them have a great time?
Could you at least open your own thread(s) instead of making a mess in other people’s discussions?

Walkabout 12 Jun 2007 09:04

Fair comment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyrandall (Post 138776)
I am going to go long distance ....sooner or later....yes....the bike is a BMW 2000 R850R..
COME ON THEN..throw your worst comments at it :thumbdown: (or otherwise :clap: )..I am ready..I CAN TAKE IT !!!:confused1:


Seems valid comment to me: Bobby has asked for the worst and he says that he can take it - apart from that, this is a forum for which bike and not which BMW.

Dave
F650GS (that works)
TT600R (not working!)

mollydog 12 Jun 2007 16:33

AliBaba could you please stop this bashing?


Maybe you should read the original post a little more carefully before you talk
smack about "bashing" ? :nono:


Ali, this post is not about doing a trip and having a great time. It is about a
specific bike where the OP asks specifically for points of criticism of the bike or points of praise. Looks to me like my post is the ONLY one on the thread to question the wisdom of an taking an older high mileage BMW on a RTW trip.
It's called diversity of opinion.

bobbyrandall 13 Jun 2007 17:50

850
 
hello all....bmw-bashing by me is fine.........prefer frank honesty and I did ask for both sides of the coin......I did plan to begin with on a different bike, xt, klr, etc....however I found the bm very comfortable...I then figured better to be more comfy and then fix it when it breaks, rather than be uncomfy and fix it more easily when it breaks...
by the way mollydog...my 850 packed up the other day on the motorway..( fuel pump ) had to push it half a mile
If I had been on a carb bike..that would not have happened and no-one can argue with that..
Sump guard addition is a great tip....
Does anyone know of trail tyres that will go onto bmw cast wheels, front 17 rear 18 inch or have they done this...cheers and keep the opinions coming...

mollydog 13 Jun 2007 22:37

Buying locally is generally cheap and easy.

jhoncooperworks 4 Nov 2008 12:38

bmw
 
hello! im from uruguay (3º world country in south america ) you can get continental tkc 80 pirelli and in buenos aires metzeler and other "pedigree" tyres and we have all the european and american motorcycles you whant.
so if you never come to a 3º world country dont speak the world its small.
also bmw bykes has huge quality problems even new ones that japanese bikes dont have the blue and white emblem will blind your eyes if you buy a bmw you will buy a bike and the "name" japanese houses sell quality not name.

leevtr 4 Nov 2008 20:24

I'm starting to wonder if 90 % of people here have heard of a little company in Japan who make, without question, the best quality bikes on the planet.
Look around, you'll see them around, they have a little wing on the tank.

bodie 4 Nov 2008 20:57

hi i ride an r850r iv fitted avon distanzia tyres found them good on road, gravel and grassy trails the 850 has plenty of power for touring two up fully loaded and with the nice low seat height stops on off cambers easier to deal with .riding off road it will be easier on the gs but raising the bars 20mm on the 850 makes standing up a lot more comfy .i vote r850r .

mollydog 4 Nov 2008 23:55

and will still weigh in lighter than a KTM 990,
BMW F800GS or R12GS.

How am I doing so far?

leevtr 5 Nov 2008 18:15

Well, i have wondered myself as to why the big H havent brought out a bike to take a share of this market. Youre right about using that engine, although virtually the same motor exists in the Vara.
Maybe they should just make a hardcore, lighter version of that. Wouldnt take much doing for a company of their size.
I had the same engine, allbeit in a different state of tune, in my Firestorm. I had that bike 4 years, and did everything from Sunday blasts to the Nurburgring, and southern Spain, and When i traded it at 44,000 miles, it ran like new. Two headlight bulbs and 1 camchain tensioner...Thats it.
Maybe you should send your design to Honda. But i still think those GSER's, would still but GS's, simply because of the badge.

AliBaba 5 Nov 2008 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by leevtr (Post 213947)
Maybe you should send your design to Honda. But i still think those GSER's, would still but GS's, simply because of the badge.

I explained this to you in an earlier tread, sorry if it was unclear, what part didn’t you understand?

If you don’t remember: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...4-4#post212708

leevtr 5 Nov 2008 19:20

ok, so i'm completely wrong. There is NO ONE anywhere who rides a BMW because of the badge, nor has ANYONE bought one just because EWAN and CHARLIE rode one on the TV.
Maybe you arent one of them, but they are there, everywhere.

Nothing personal mate, just an unfortunate fact.

AliBaba 5 Nov 2008 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by leevtr (Post 213960)
ok, so i'm completely wrong. There is NO ONE anywhere who rides a BMW because of the badge, nor has ANYONE bought one just because EWAN and CHARLIE rode one on the TV.

Did I say that?

leevtr 5 Nov 2008 20:19

Nope!!
 
No more than i said that all bm's are crap. But i do have a point.
Old ones probably great, new ones not so. So why would someone ( not everyone, and especially not you, god forbid ) Pay £ 10,000 for an unreliable bike. Two reasons, either badge, or past rep which is no longer valid.

Obviously hitting a nerve with this one so no further comment.

AliBaba 5 Nov 2008 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by leevtr (Post 213967)
No more than i said that all bm's are crap.

Who said you did?

Quote:

Originally Posted by leevtr (Post 213967)
But i do have a point.
Old ones probably great, new ones not so. So why would someone ( not everyone, and especially not you, god forbid ) Pay £ 10,000 for an unreliable bike. Two reasons, either badge, or past rep which is no longer valid.

I understand that you are not able to see other reasons, but that doesn't mean it's true.



Quote:

Originally Posted by leevtr (Post 213967)
Obviously hitting a nerve with this one so no further comment.

I wouldn't say a nerve, a bullshit-alarm would be closer.

leevtr 5 Nov 2008 20:50

Bullshit alarm.... Do BMW fit them as standard or as an extra.

I might just order one.... actually, no i wont. It will probably break.

:clap:

mollydog 6 Nov 2008 03:23

Nicky Hayden won the AMA Superbike series on one. Here we called it the RC51.

The RC51 motor is way more modern than the Firestorm motor.

leevtr 6 Nov 2008 07:45

Not Competitive???
 
I think were getting mixed up with something else here mate. Colin Edwards won WSB twice with that motor!! 2000 and 2002. Remember??
Whats more, 2000 was its first attempt.

mollydog 6 Nov 2008 07:54

For now, I'd be happy enough to see the Tenere' come to the USA.
:thumbup1:

leevtr 6 Nov 2008 17:47

Get Mr Obama to sort that out!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 214024)
Sorry, I wasn't sure how long Honda ran the RC51. In the US they only ran it a couple/few years IIRC. Anyway, I'd bet Honda have a warehouse full of those motors somewhere. Good place to start to build an all new Africa Twin.

For now, I'd be happy enough to see the Tenere' come to the USA.
:thumbup1:

No Tenere's!!! At last, something we got first!!
I did look at one of those but decided they were too much money to fall off of, which is inevitable sooner or later off road. Hence i bought an xr650. Higher maintenence, but solid, and cheap plastics. I must admit though, they do look a great overlanding bike.
And the xr was less than 1/2 the price, so cheaper carnet and more cash to travel.

tagatubos 21 Aug 2017 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 138852)
I had an 850R before buying a 1200GS and really liked it. Performance is perfectly adequate for long distance touring. I swapped it because
- the GS had better leg room (I was getting cramp on long runs), and
- the GS offered better luggage carrying capability.

Tim

It is an old thread I know... find this tread from google search, because I have same thoughts, what bobbyrandall had.. do I change or not?
Tim have preciously those thoughts what I thinking of now.
If there's only a good aftermarket lowering begs for me and for my wife and pannier racks to side + behind, I will not swap my old and trusted r 850 r bike to gs.
This r 850 r is easy to handle, really nice on tarmac, goes fine on sand roads too... better than suzuki vl 1500 custom bike! :)
Not too much electronic stuff.. like these new one have.


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